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The official development camp thread

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Andrei Kostitsyn (officialy spelled in this manner) new picture in Montreal

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Ice training are in Pierrefonds Sportplexe everyday from 9h00 am to 12h00 except wednesday july 14th

I assurely be there this week-end to watch Ak-47

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Anyone got any info on today's session? I heard Locke was amazing. Kostitsyn looks good aswell as others, and Chipchura looked poor.

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From what I've seen and mostly heard, AK is way bigger than we thought, he was almost as big as Chip. He's also a really skilled and fast player. Locke looked good, but he's a little small and Chip has more skill than we could think. He didn't look out of his place.

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Can anyone make a good report on how the player played and who looks good and who look bad?

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I attended the development camp from 2:00 to 3:15 today and the following is my opinion on some of the players present:

Andrei Kastsitsyn – One of the better skaters present at the camp today. He did not have break-a-way speed, but his skating was effortless. He was excellent in the puck control and passing drills, the stick work is definitely there. His release is as quick and smooth as some top NHLers, the strength and speed of his shot are there, but the aim was not there today, most shots missing the net or hitting the goaltender in the pads or chest. His frame is bigger than I had expected, hes not exceptionally tall, but hes got a wide frame and showed good balance when confronting a defenseman. Was poor on the one on one drills, playing along the perimeter most of the time. Solid in most areas, though his physical play needs some work, he showed enough skill to beat defenseman one on one, but doesn’t use his strength in those situations.

Corey Locke – A man among boys today, Locke showed why he was the top scorer in the CHL these past two seasons. His skating strides are slow (especially when accelerating), though his speed is not as bad as some have described in the past, a Ribeiro type skater. His shot was what impressed me most, a quick deceptive shot which caught the goaltenders off guard on more than one situation. He faired the best in the passing and stickhandling drills. He looks small on the rink, especially next to the likes of Archer, but his height is not that bad, his frame seems to be the problem. His moves and plays we’re well liked by the audience. He looked like a future NHLer out there, his shot, vision, playmaking and stickhandling are NHL ready, he just needs to keep working on his skating strides and his lower body strength.

Kyle Chipchura – I was disappointed with his play today to say the least. His passes were more often than not received in the skates rather than on the tape, for a supposed playmaker they looked lousy. His shot needs a lot of work, though he has said he will work on it this offseason, the strength and speed just isn’t there. His skating was good, a lot better than I had anticipated. Archer managed to contain him very effectively on one-on-one situations. His strength, physical play and defensive game were hard to judge most drills being of the skilled variety. He’s one of the youngest invitees, so this is somewhat normal.

Those were the three I concentrated on; the rest of the players will have briefer descriptions.

Cory Urquhart – Has bulked up since last summer’s prospect camp, didn’t appear to be as lanky as before. Andre Savard’s comments about his hands were just, he made some nice passes, dangles and had a pretty impressive shot. Seemed more willing to confront defenseman on one-on-one situations, something he had problems with last season. His skating got better, though it still needs a bit of work. Displayed a great attitude, during the free shots period he liked to joke around with other players.

Michael Lambert – One of the better players today, hes got a strong accurate shot and challenged defenseman on one-on-one situations. Should be interesting to see what he can do in Hamilton next season.

Jimmy Bonneau – This guy will be a fan favourite when he makes it to the NHL. His physical skills were not on display, but he has a nose for the net and a surprisingly good shot. Scored one of the nicer top corner goals today. He reminds me of Chris Simon in some ways, though will most likely never become a top 9 player. He will be a good enforcer who can score once in awhile, not one of those uni-dimensional goons we see so often.

Maxim Lapierre – Was one of the more physical players today, but the skill drills aren’t his domain. He did fairly well in all the categories, but nothing stood out. Guy sitting next to me (who’s brother supposedly plays in the Q) said hes got a good reputation in the Q however.

Jonathan Ferland – Was the leader on the ice today, most likely because of his experience. His offensive skills are not that impressive, but hes a big guy that everyone seemed to like. If he rounds out his game, he may be a good 4th line energy player who can provide some offense.

Alex Dulac – I see why McKeen’s said he was not good enough to be drafted in this years entry draft, he was the worst player on the ice, he stood out in a bad way. His skating was extremely poor, was the only one that lost his footing on more than one occasion, and constantly fanned on his passes and shots. On one-on-ones he refused to challenge the forward, something worrisome about a physical stay at home defenseman Timmin’s described him as.

Andrew Archer – Or was it Mike Komisarek? They look similar not only in style, but in physical appearance as well. They have the same sized frame and play a similar game. Komisarek is better positionally when playing defense, but Archer has a mean streak Komisarek is lacking. Archer was in Chipchura’s face all day, to the point where I actually felt sorry for Chipchura. Was one of the oldest players present, so hes further along in his development.

Greg Stewart – He looks physically imposing and has a nice slaper. Didn’t pay much attention to him, but his some of his shots were impressive.

Danny Stewart – Had a bad first impression of him at last years prospect camp, so I have never liked him. Not particularly good at anything, and has that Ribeiro smirk I hate so much.

Mark Flood – To tell you the truth, I didn’t pay much attention to him, like most defenseman.

Oskari Korpikari – The defenseman I paid most attention to because his size surprised me. I had always thought he was a small offensive minded defenseman but he seemed the total opposite today. I have never played defense so I don’t like commenting on specifics about their play, but he looked good none the less.

Christian Larivee – Showed some nice flashes, has a nice frame, but or else was pretty normal for an “overagers”.

I didn’t pay much attention to the goalies, and was on the opposite side of Danis so I don’t know how he faired. Lindberg was impressive though, he’s small but he’s one of the fastest goalies I’ve seen. His glove positioning is somewhat unorthodox, but it seems to work well for him.

I paid no attention to the try-outs, though Labelle stood out on more than one occasion. I wouldn’t mind having him signed for the AHL or ECHL.

The above is my opinion anyways, I am by no means a professional scout, just what I thought of the players present. Its hard watching 25 different players at once, so most of my comments are based on what stood out and what didn’t.

(Typed this quickly so the grammar aint perfect )

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I attended the development camp from 2:00 to 3:15 today and the following is my opinion on some of the players present:

Andrei Kastsitsyn – One of the better skaters present at the camp today. He did not have break-a-way speed, but his skating was effortless. He was excellent in the puck control and passing drills, the stick work is definitely there. His release is as quick and smooth as some top NHLers, the strength and speed of his shot are there, but the aim was not there today, most shots missing the net or hitting the goaltender in the pads or chest. His frame is bigger than I had expected, hes not exceptionally tall, but hes got a wide frame and showed good balance when confronting a defenseman. Was poor on the one on one drills, playing along the perimeter most of the time. Solid in most areas, though his physical play needs some work, he showed enough skill to beat defenseman one on one, but doesn’t use his strength in those situations.

Corey Locke – A man among boys today, Locke showed why he was the top scorer in the CHL these past two seasons. His skating strides are slow (especially when accelerating), though his speed is not as bad as some have described in the past, a Ribeiro type skater. His shot was what impressed me most, a quick deceptive shot which caught the goaltenders off guard on more than one situation. He faired the best in the passing and stickhandling drills. He looks small on the rink, especially next to the likes of Archer, but his height is not that bad, his frame seems to be the problem. His moves and plays we’re well liked by the audience. He looked like a future NHLer out there, his shot, vision, playmaking and stickhandling are NHL ready, he just needs to keep working on his skating strides and his lower body strength.

Kyle Chipchura – I was disappointed with his play today to say the least. His passes were more often than not received in the skates rather than on the tape, for a supposed playmaker they looked lousy. His shot needs a lot of work, though he has said he will work on it this offseason, the strength and speed just isn’t there. His skating was good, a lot better than I had anticipated. Archer managed to contain him very effectively on one-on-one situations. His strength, physical play and defensive game were hard to judge most drills being of the skilled variety. He’s one of the youngest invitees, so this is somewhat normal.

Those were the three I concentrated on; the rest of the players will have briefer descriptions.

Cory Urquhart – Has bulked up since last summer’s prospect camp, didn’t appear to be as lanky as before. Andre Savard’s comments about his hands were just, he made some nice passes, dangles and had a pretty impressive shot. Seemed more willing to confront defenseman on one-on-one situations, something he had problems with last season. His skating got better, though it still needs a bit of work. Displayed a great attitude, during the free shots period he liked to joke around with other players.

Michael Lambert – One of the better players today, hes got a strong accurate shot and challenged defenseman on one-on-one situations. Should be interesting to see what he can do in Hamilton next season.

Jimmy Bonneau – This guy will be a fan favourite when he makes it to the NHL. His physical skills were not on display, but he has a nose for the net and a surprisingly good shot. Scored one of the nicer top corner goals today. He reminds me of Chris Simon in some ways, though will most likely never become a top 9 player. He will be a good enforcer who can score once in awhile, not one of those uni-dimensional goons we see so often.

Maxim Lapierre – Was one of the more physical players today, but the skill drills aren’t his domain. He did fairly well in all the categories, but nothing stood out. Guy sitting next to me (who’s brother supposedly plays in the Q) said hes got a good reputation in the Q however.

Jonathan Ferland – Was the leader on the ice today, most likely because of his experience. His offensive skills are not that impressive, but hes a big guy that everyone seemed to like. If he rounds out his game, he may be a good 4th line energy player who can provide some offense.

Alex Dulac – I see why McKeen’s said he was not good enough to be drafted in this years entry draft, he was the worst player on the ice, he stood out in a bad way. His skating was extremely poor, was the only one that lost his footing on more than one occasion, and constantly fanned on his passes and shots. On one-on-ones he refused to challenge the forward, something worrisome about a physical stay at home defenseman Timmin’s described him as.

Andrew Archer – Or was it Mike Komisarek? They look similar not only in style, but in physical appearance as well. They have the same sized frame and play a similar game. Komisarek is better positionally when playing defense, but Archer has a mean streak Komisarek is lacking. Archer was in Chipchura’s face all day, to the point where I actually felt sorry for Chipchura. Was one of the oldest players present, so hes further along in his development.

Greg Stewart – He looks physically imposing and has a nice slaper. Didn’t pay much attention to him, but his some of his shots were impressive.

Danny Stewart – Had a bad first impression of him at last years prospect camp, so I have never liked him. Not particularly good at anything, and has that Ribeiro smirk I hate so much.

Mark Flood – To tell you the truth, I didn’t pay much attention to him, like most defenseman.

Oskari Korpikari – The defenseman I paid most attention to because his size surprised me. I had always thought he was a small offensive minded defenseman but he seemed the total opposite today. I have never played defense so I don’t like commenting on specifics about their play, but he looked good none the less.

Christian Larivee – Showed some nice flashes, has a nice frame, but or else was pretty normal for an “overagers”.

I didn’t pay much attention to the goalies, and was on the opposite side of Danis so I don’t know how he faired. Lindberg was impressive though, he’s small but he’s one of the fastest goalies I’ve seen. His glove positioning is somewhat unorthodox, but it seems to work well for him.

I paid no attention to the try-outs, though Labelle stood out on more than one occasion. I wouldn’t mind having him signed for the AHL or ECHL.

The above is my opinion anyways, I am by no means a professional scout, just what I thought of the players present. Its hard watching 25 different players at once, so most of my comments are based on what stood out and what didn’t.

(Typed this quickly so the grammar aint perfect )

Thanks Thomas, thats a lot of effort and we all appreciate it. By the way dont worry about spelling and Gramar. Its no biggie at all!

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Thanks Thomas, thats a lot of effort and we all appreciate it. By the way dont worry about spelling and Gramar. Its no biggie at all!
Agree Mooch lol , In each post I maked I guy replied me use the ALTAVISTA TRANSLATOR and use the manners everybody know that I can't spell at all but I don't feel ashame because it's not my first language but I agree that I have to make some efforts but anyways.

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Very nice report Thomas. I should have watched Lambert more, I really can't recall great moment from him. I agree with you on Dulac, he cound't keep up with the other players out there, but I can't say he was the worst player on the ice, since Petit looked like a pee-wee out there. He couldn't pass the puck properly, nor could he take a decent shot on the net..and that's without mentionning the number of times he fell on his arse.

Also agree with you on Danny Stewrat, nothing positive to say about him. I would almost say that his attitude is like he already knew he was only a figurant out there.

I haven't paid to much attention to the defence neither, tho I was also impressed by the size of Kopikari..but was intrigued with his skating which is very unorthodox. But he seemed good on 1 on 1s, good positionning and strenth.

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Here's a good article from Habsworld.net

http://www.habsworld.net/show_big_news.php?id=636


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Chipchura: Is strong in most areas like the scouting reports say. Has a thick body. Good skater, good shot. Looks good at both ends of the ice. Didnt stand out, but none of the other players did either.


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Guys who I paid most attention to:

Locke: He was really quite good. He picks the corners like a pro, and he seems to have a knack for getting goals even from bad angles.

Kastsitsyn: Great stickhandling, seemed to be coaxing a bit. He has a wicked shot though. Wasn't on target much today, but it was really booming and he has a really accurate low shot. Made some wicked passed during the 3-on-1.

Chipchura: Looked pretty good. Wasn't on target much but seemed strong on the puck.

Lacasse: At one pt, he had quite a shutout streak going.

Archer: Made some nice defensive plays on the 2-on-1s. Nothing fancy, but solid coverage.

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Agree Mooch lol , In each post I maked I guy replied me use the ALTAVISTA TRANSLATOR and use the manners everybody know that I can't spell at all but I don't feel ashame because it's not my first language but I agree that I have to make some efforts but anyways.
well that guy was probably an idiot. I personally am also a bad speller, and i really dont mind if others cant spell. Some, like your-self dont even speak english on a regular basis. Jeez.

By the way your english is getting better thegreatone, nice too see!

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From Cyberpresse, interseting read.


Andreï Kostitsyn a donné ses premiers coups de patins dans l'uniforme du Canadien, vendredi, lors de la première journée du camp de développement de l'équipe qui se tient à Pierrefonds.

Des coups de patins fort attendus puisque le Bélarus n'avait pas été vu depuis sa sélection (10e rang) par le Tricolore au repêchage de 2003 à Nashville.

Il est difficile de ne pas s'emballer devant un si beau talent. Pourtant, Kostitsyn n'avait pas patiné depuis deux mois. De plus, il chaussait de nouvelles bottines. Et on ne dit rien du décalage horaire. Malgré tout, le blondinet attaquant, qui fait six pieds et 208 livres, a démontré des habiletés que l'on rencontre rarement chez un jeune de 19 ans. En fait, il avait les allures d'un Marian Hossa tant par sa façon de patiner que par son comportement général sur la patinoire.

«Je ne suis pas satisfait. Donnez-moi encore deux ou trois jours», a-t-il dit à Trevor Timmins, le directeur du personnel des joueurs, à sa sortie de la glace.

«Je suis à seulement 35 ou 40 pour cent de ma forme», a-t-il précisé.
Timmins, qui l'a réclamé, a été très élogieux dans les circonstances.

«Il est plus avancé que ne l'était Alexander Perezhogin au même âge», a-t-il commenté en parlant du deuxième choix du Canadien en 2001.

Kyle Chipchura, le premier choix du Tricolore en 2004, a eu l'occasion d'affronter Kostitsyn lors d'un match préparatoire à Minsk.

«C'est tout un joueur, a-t-il dit. Je me souviens qu'il nous a ridiculisés une couple de fois. Il est le meilleur attaquant que j'ai affronté cette année.»

L'Amérique...

Kostitsyn rêve de jouer en Amérique du Nord dès cette année. A Montréal, à Hamilton ou dans le junior.

«Il sait que son avenir est en Amérique, tant sur la glace qu'à l'extérieur de la patinoire», dit son conseiller Vadim Azrilyant, qui agissait également comme interprète.

«Il veut venir ici le plus rapidement possible.»

Il faut savoir que Kostitsyn n'a pas apprécié son expérience avec le CSKA de Moscou, l'ancienne formation de l'Armée Rouge dirigée par Viktor Tikhonov.

«Je n'avais pas la confiance de l'entraîneur, a-t-il expliqué. C'est difficile de se faire valoir lorsqu'on fait seulement deux ou trois présences par période.»

Ses chances d'avoir un meilleur temps de glace cette année ne semblent pas meilleures puisqu'il sera désormais considéré comme joueur étranger. Le championnat russe n'accepte que trois étrangers par équipe et les entraîneurs voudront privilégier des joueurs d'expérience.

Kostitsyn est encore lié pour deux ans au CSKA. Mais selon son agent, un contrat de la Ligue nationale aura pour effet d'annuler son entente avec le club de Moscou.

Kostitsyn, qui se définit d'abord comme un joueur d'équipe, estime ne pas avoir pris de risque en participant au camp de développement du Canadien sans détenir de contrat.

«Le Canadien a aussi pris un risque en me sélectionnant au repêchage, répond-il. C'est maintenant à mon tour de prouver ma valeur. Pour moi, il n'y a pas de risque.»

La décision de lui offrir un contrat appartient maintenant à Bob Gainey.

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Jesus! Kastsitsyn is 6'0" and 208 lbs (was listed at 189 at draft day)

http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chronique...N40EF1E00.html

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well that guy was probably an idiot. I personally am also a bad speller, and i really dont mind if others cant spell. Some, like your-self dont even speak english on a regular basis. Jeez.

By the way your english is getting better thegreatone, nice too see!

Keep it man!
THX Mooch you're such a good guy but the reasons that I'm not good in english is that here in MTL in the high school they give 5 courses of english in like a a week and a half that's nothing but I am making some efforts ,I don't speak english on a regular basis ,I am just speaking english on this board in some time in school that's it anyways but in general I don't feel ashame and I have to make so efforts but atleast the people can understand me so that's great and you're right not a lot of people mind here if others can't spell they just want to enjoy this great HOCKEY board and talk hockey that's all.

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Agree Mooch lol , In each post I maked I guy replied me use the ALTAVISTA TRANSLATOR and use the manners everybody know that I can't spell at all but I don't feel ashame because it's not my first language but I agree that I have to make some efforts but anyways.
I think you misunderstood me. I told Firthbird to use altavista if he wanted to translate French to English and I told HIM to get some manners...

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Jesus! Kastsitsyn is 6'0" and 208 lbs (was listed at 189 at draft day)

http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chronique...N40EF1E00.html
:lol what did he eat in the recent months ???

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THX Mooch you're such a good guy but the reasons that I'm not good in english is that here in MTL in the high school they give 5 courses of english in like a a week and a half that's nothing but I am making some efforts ,I don't speak english on a regular basis ,I am just speaking english on this board in some time in school that's it anyways but in general I don't feel ashame and I have to make so efforts but atleast the people can understand me so that's great and you're right not a lot of people mind here if others can't spell they just want to enjoy this great HOCKEY board and talk hockey that's all.
Right on the thegreatone! Its all about hockey here or it should be anyways.......

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:lol what did he eat in the recent months ???
Hippos and elephants!

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I think you misunderstood me. I told Firthbird to use altavista if he wanted to translate French to English and I told HIM to get some manners...
I don't think so , why did you quote me ??? anyways

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Jesus! Kastsitsyn is 6'0" and 208 lbs (was listed at 189 at draft day)

http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chronique...N40EF1E00.html
Wow, now thats awsome!

We have another big winger ladies and gentleman!

Hossa and Kostitsyn!

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According to what Timmins said after the practice, I expect Habs to sign him soon. He will then start the season in the AHL, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if he was called in the NHL before Higgins.

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I don't think so , why did you quote me ??? anyways
He told you to speak English and I told him to use altavista if he didn't like it and to get manners.....

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