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04-10-2011, 10:32 PM
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Greg Carvel's say

http://www.ottawasun.com/sports/hock.../17942381.html

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pimping the PK

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04-10-2011, 10:36 PM
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Love how unafraid he was to just single Elliott out as a problem.

There was no keeping the guy though, keep this guy through another set of fires and the fans and media are saying WTF? You get the sense he understands that completely, which is why he went out of way to make clear his accomplishments that went largely unpublicized.

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04-10-2011, 10:40 PM
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Love how unafraid he was to just single Elliott out as a problem.

There was no keeping the guy though, keep this guy through another set of fires and the fans and media are saying WTF? You get the sense he understands that completely, which is why he went out of way to make clear his accomplishments that went largely unpublicized.
I know these guys have to be professionals and all, but come on, everybody knows who the problem was. They dismantled the team and it did better simply with a new goalie (k and a strong work ethic, but still).

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04-10-2011, 10:45 PM
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It's tough, but he did survive a number of coaching changes. To have been here since 2004, even if performing his job well, was pretty remarkable.

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04-10-2011, 10:50 PM
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I'm happy that Carvel left as I won't have to read another "Fire Carvel, the PP is poo" comments again. His shot at Elliott is pretty funny, got the feeling he liked Clouston too from that article

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Ouch. Elliott was not spared whatsoever by Carvel. He's right of course, but he's not doing himself any favors by putting down an NHL player in such a direct manner.

Ah well, good luck Greg wherever you end up.

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04-10-2011, 11:15 PM
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too bad he couldnt manage the PP worth a damn

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04-10-2011, 11:15 PM
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Ouch. Elliott was not spared whatsoever by Carvel. He's right of course, but he's not doing himself any favors by putting down an NHL player in such a direct manner.

Ah well, good luck Greg wherever you end up.
It gives me the sense that Elliott might have deserved it. Never took any blame, always blamed defense. Probably pissed coaches off.

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04-10-2011, 11:16 PM
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too bad he couldnt manage the PP worth a damn
Was he the PP guy?

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If he wants to stay as an assistant in the NHL, I'm sure a team that struggles at PK will give him a shot.

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Actually never realized out PK was top in the NHL since Anderson came. lol. But really, thats not too shabby.

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04-10-2011, 11:31 PM
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Actually never realized out PK was top in the NHL since Anderson came. lol. But really, thats not too shabby.
It was performing at like 98%. Even with Elliott it was a decent PK, middle of the league or so....way better than any other facet of our game.

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It was performing at like 98%. Even with Elliott it was a decent PK, middle of the league or so....way better than any other facet of our game.
I never realized that at all. Wow, well good to know. At least we've got one thing going for us! Just a few others to work on!

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too bad he couldnt manage the PP worth a damn
Too bad he didn't handle the PP. How many times does it need to be stated before people realize it?

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A lot of people have things mixed up around here.

I remember someone showing us an article that Lauer was the PP coach and Carvel was the PK.

Last year our PK was a HUGE reason we made the playoffs. We won games that the other team had around 4-5 PP's.

If indeed Carvel had nothing to do with the PP then I agree he got robbed. I too thought he was responsible for the PP.

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The PK was average most of the year. You can't count on vezina type performance from your goalie to save your job. He's had elite PKers his whole time here in Alfie, Kelly, Phillips, Fisher, etc.

He was just an alright PK coach IMO.

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04-10-2011, 11:47 PM
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Too bad he didn't handle the PP. How many times does it need to be stated before people realize it?
You can state it 100 more times, and people will continue to spout the same old bull****. Whatever justifies their opinion, that's the truth.

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I'd prefer Carvel be kept on... ran a solid PK.

Also, I'm pretty sure it's brought up every time there is a PP troubles/Carvel thread that he is not responsible for the PP.

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04-10-2011, 11:52 PM
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Changes had to be made, can't help but feel sorry for the guy though.

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04-11-2011, 12:01 AM
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Too bad he didn't handle the PP. How many times does it need to be stated before people realize it?
my bad. guess i bought into the false info

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At least we don't have to watch him run the PP anymore.

edit: Oh and reading the article, I think Carvel brings up good points about how guys like Garrioch wanted him Clouston and company out of there for awhile. I'm honestly sick of that fat ****s opinion, Ive met him before too, he came off as an arrogant SOB to me.

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04-11-2011, 01:26 AM
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The article annoys me, Brennan writing it like he hadn't noticed Carvel's contribution and suggesting he got jobbed.

I have attended many many Sens practices, and Don is usually hanging around. It was easy to see how Carvel worked during practices, and the results achieved during games. Makes me wonder if Don even pays attention to anything that is going on, or just meets with Bruce in the bar and makes **** up.

I like that Carvel didn't use kid gloves when talking about Elliott's play. He might have actually done Elliott a favour, maybe helping him to realize it is time to accept responsibility for his play and just possibly save his career.

The truth of the matter is, no team could have been successful with a goaltender playing as Elliott did, not one.

Personally I like Greg Carvel, appreciated his work with the Sens and hoped he might survive the purge. Unfortunately for him that was not to be, so I wish him the best in the future and I hope he and his family do well.

(Wilson in Toronto would be wise to hire him and let Acton go!!! )

My opinion of Carvel aside, I do believe Murray did the right thing by letting them all go. Now Murray can hire a new coach, give him the authority and responsibility, and allow him to hire who he wants as his staff. It would be the right next step.

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It honestly, probably isn't anywhere near Carvel's fault. He has however, been given a lot of second chances and even though his PK was run very effectively, usually when you want to bring in a new philosophy you have to bring in ALL new people.

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04-11-2011, 06:51 AM
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Too bad he didn't handle the PP. How many times does it need to be stated before people realize it?
Thanks for fighting the good fight. I don't have the energy anymore.

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