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04-11-2011, 10:12 PM
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04-11-2011, 10:30 PM
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Does anybody think that just because the Canucks have Hamhuis and Ballard they will stop the Hawks attack?

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Who did the Canucks acquire since last year that made them so much better?

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The Hawks have to pressure the Van Dmen and force turnovers. PK will also be huge.

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I actually think the core people at ESPN love hockey. Remember in the early days the Whale were the only pro team in ESPN-land and hockey was their 2nd best sport after college BB. Now they televise NFL, major NCAA football, NBA and that car racing thing,and don't do NHL, so of course it's been crowded out.

I miss the early days of ESPN2 when the NHL was showcased and we had NHL2nite, but I think they still cover the only sport the don't televise way better than any other outlet in the U.S.

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Who did the Canucks acquire since last year that made them so much better?
Hamhuis and Ballard have made their defense better. Malholtra helped out a ton before his eye injury. I'd argue that Campoli and Leddy have impacted this team as much as Hamhuis and Ballard have impacted Vancouver.

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I don't know what will happen but i know we won't go down without a fight.

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Does anybody think that just because the Canucks have Hamhuis and Ballard they will stop the Hawks attack?
Hamhuis will help but Ballard is overated and honestly not that good IMO

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04-11-2011, 11:30 PM
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We'll have Hossa handle Hamhuis again.


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what is the starting lineup going to look like. *minus bolland*

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"We worked so hard for an entire season to have a chance to play for a cup. It's tough *sob* when you're not rewarded at the end"

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Edit: "I didn't get too many interference calls this year."

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what is the starting lineup going to look like. *minus bolland*
Its Q so who knows

He changes lines up everygame nowadays it seems

If I had to guess

Sharp-Toews-Hossa
Smith-Frolik-Kane
Stalberg-Johnson-Kopekcy
Bickell-Dowell-Pisani (Hoping Kruger draws in there instead)

For the D not sure if he will keep Leddy/Keith together ,, Probably keep Keith/Seabs together because of past with Sedin's

Keith-Seabrook
Campbell-Hjalmarsson
Campoli-Leddy

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Its Q so who knows

He changes lines up everygame nowadays it seems

If I had to guess

Sharp-Toews-Hossa
Smith-Frolik-Kane
Stalberg-Johnson-Kopekcy
Bickell-Dowell-Pisani (Hoping Kruger draws in there instead)

For the D not sure if he will keep Leddy/Keith together ,, Probably keep Keith/Seabs together because of past with Sedin's

Keith-Seabrook
Campbell-Hjalmarsson
Campoli-Leddy
oh thanks. keith/seabs haven't played particulary well all season.

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oh thanks. keith/seabs haven't played particulary well all season.
They have had there moments up and down. Both have had a down year although Seabs has been alot better lately

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04-12-2011, 01:40 AM
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Hamhuis and Ballard have made their defense better. Malholtra helped out a ton before his eye injury. I'd argue that Campoli and Leddy have impacted this team as much as Hamhuis and Ballard have impacted Vancouver.
*approaching holding hands clear of the guns*

Also, you got the other side of this, that the Canucks do not have certain D-scrubs around any more due to these acquirements (Baumgartner and O'Brien). Not to talk about the fact that Bieksa and Alberts actually have been good this season compared to the disasters they were last year, that and D-men being healthy is what brings the D-depth imho.

The same goes for the acquirement of Higgins, Lapierre and Torres. Not any star players by any means but still more solid than having the likes of Wellwood, Rypien, Bernier and Johnson around (Hell, even Pettinger played a play-off game last year).

So basically it is improvement in depth for the Canucks, nothing up front. The bottom 6 isn't much to talk about, but they are no disasters. With good offensive D-men on all pairings even the bottom 6 will get its chances.

With this said, I must say that I would have preferred Dallas against Vancouver instead of Chicago as I think Chicago still got a very much deadly first line (yes actually better for play off than the RS higher scoring Vancouver first line).

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04-12-2011, 02:01 AM
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Who did the Canucks acquire since last year that made them so much better?
In: Hamhuis, Ballard, Torres (Gone games 1 and 2), Malhotra (out for playoffs), Higgins, Lapierre, Oreskovich.

Out: Wellwood, Demitra, Bernier, Hordichuk, Rypien, Johnson, Mitchell, O'Brien.

The new players have 2 main elements that the players they are replacing from last year do not: a combination of Speed and Physicality. Some of last years players could skate, some were physical. The replacements all generally do both.

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04-12-2011, 02:43 AM
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added Malhotra who failed last year with the sharks but would have helped them - out
Ballard is not the guy we should really worry about
Hamhuis failed defending our 2nd Line last year


I don't see why the Nucks are better this year. Lolongo is still a crying baby, Sedins still don't have any balls and Kesler has never shut down any other line. How can that guy win the Selke again?

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04-12-2011, 07:28 AM
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I don’t think this series is really about Canucks being that much better, but more that the Hawks are that much worse. It may be asking too much in such a short time, but it is time for this team to show their own character and forget about any comparisons to our SC winning team. We have seen flashes throughout the season that they are capable of beating any team.
On another note, obviously decisions will be made in the off season based on individual player's performance in the PO’s. Guys like Bickell, Brouwer, Dowell, Frolik and even Crawford to name a few, are players that need to show they can compete when it counts most.


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04-12-2011, 08:29 AM
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you are right. We are worse than last year.

Now we will see who was right last offseason. I said

Hawks 09/10 > every other team
Hawks 10/11 = as good as all other contenders

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04-12-2011, 09:36 AM
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Forgot that Torres is going to be out the first 2 games. Canucks forward depth is going going to be tested with Torres and Malhotra out. How long until Salo gets knocked out?

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04-12-2011, 10:20 AM
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Forgot that Torres is going to be out the first 2 games. Canucks forward depth is going going to be tested with Torres and Malhotra out. How long until Salo gets knocked out?
Losing Torres for the first two hurts. Not a vital component by any stretch, but he doesn't hurt the team when he's on the ice, is one of our better bodycheckers and can pitch in some offense in bunches. Malhotra is the biggest loss to this team(at the moment), however.

As for Salo, we're praying he doesn't get hit by a light breeze any time soon.

Any updates on potential line combos for you guys at practice? Our opening lineup is expected to be;

D. Sedin - H. Sedin - Burrows
Higgins - Kesler - Samuelsson
Raymond - Hodgson - Hansen
Glass - Lapierre - Oreskovich

Edler - Ehrhoff
Bieksa - Hamhuis
Salo - Ballard

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04-12-2011, 10:23 AM
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Who will play against the Toews Line?

Kesler or Line 3


Who will play against the Kane or Hossa Line?


what do you expect

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Who will play against the Toews Line?

Kesler or Line 3


Who will play against the Kane or Hossa Line?


what do you expect
It depends, really. I think Q usually controls the matchups where as AV seems to like rolling lines, IIRC. If Q controls the matchups, you will likely see the Bolland(when he is healthy) unit out against the Twins and Burrows, although AV will likely be putting them out on the ice when he sees the Toews unit go out. Does that make sense? It seems kind of garbled to me.

Basically: AV prefers matching strength vs. strength. So if Q puts out the Toews line, AV will likely respond with the Sedin line. Q might then shift to the Bolland/checking unit to shut them down.

The Kesler line will likely draw the Kane/Hossa line.

The defensive pairings are where AV does like some semblance of matching. I would anticipate Bieksa/Hamhuis being on against the Toews line while Edler/Ehrhoff handle the Kane/Hossa unit.

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It depends, really. I think Q usually controls the matchups where as AV seems to like rolling lines, IIRC. If Q controls the matchups, you will likely see the Bolland(when he is healthy) unit out against the Twins and Burrows, although AV will likely be putting them out on the ice when he sees the Toews unit go out. Does that make sense? It seems kind of garbled to me.

Basically: AV prefers matching strength vs. strength. So if Q puts out the Toews line, AV will likely respond with the Sedin line. Q might then shift to the Bolland/checking unit to shut them down.

The Kesler line will likely draw the Kane/Hossa line.

The defensive pairings are where AV does like some semblance of matching. I would anticipate Bieksa/Hamhuis being on against the Toews line while Edler/Ehrhoff handle the Kane/Hossa unit.
Your right

I forgot how Q makes your coach his ,,, Well you know what

If Canucks go out in 1st or 2nd round this year I assume AV will be fired

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