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04-11-2011, 11:26 AM
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CSS Final Rankings

CPM: you got some 'splaining to do...

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=6...id=DL|NHL|home

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04-11-2011, 11:58 AM
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Wow, this just shows that this year the draft class is all over the place and 3rd overall may be as good as 8th overall. It seems like Strome dropped where Huberdeau rose quite heavily, even though Strome has better numbers in a tougher league.
I still trust Murray to find the best player available and his scouts don't use these rankings anyway.

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Wow, this just shows that this year the draft class is all over the place and 3rd overall may be as good as 8th overall. It seems like Strome dropped where Huberdeau rose quite heavily, even though Strome has better numbers in a tougher league.
I still trust Murray to find the best player available and his scouts don't use these rankings anyway.
Might be due to playoffs / goals scored?

Anyways, looks like Larsson probably still fits somewhere in the top-3, so that still doesn't seem to be much different:

RNH/Larsson
Lando
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WTF?

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Might be due to playoffs / goals scored?

Anyways, looks like Larsson probably still fits somewhere in the top-3, so that still doesn't seem to be much different:

RNH/Larsson
Lando
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WTF?
It seems like after the top 3 it's an absolute wash and toss up. How are there not atleast 5 great hockey players in every draft when so many people play hockey all over the world. It's mind-boggling.

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lol... wtf happened past the top 3?

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All you need to know about the CSS Rankings: In 2007 they had Kyle Turris ranked #1 ahead of Patrick Kane.

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Let's go Sean Coutu

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CPM: you got some 'splaining to do...

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=6...id=DL|NHL|home
Not really. I expect he'll stand by what he thinks, as he should. He can change his mind, but I hope it's not because someone else came up with a different opinion. These lists can be wrong in so many areas, but they can be right as well. One opinion VS another.

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Not really. I expect he'll stand by what he thinks, as he should. He can change his mind, but I hope it's not because someone else came up with a different opinion. These lists can be wrong in so many areas, but they can be right as well. One opinion VS another.
I omitted a smilie, but it was in jest.

The guy jumped from 19 to 8. That's not too shabby.

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Beaulieu at 5! Nice to see him get some love but that's a little high. I can absolutely see him going top 10.

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Beaulieu at 5! Nice to see him get some love but that's a little high. I can absolutely see him going top 10.
There's some good players that will be within striking range with NSH pick.

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Beaulieu at 5! Nice to see him get some love but that's a little high. I can absolutely see him going top 10.
Damn scouts are riding the coattails of your vids, FQL!

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Hopefully this doesn't turn out too ugly. Thought I'd list their rise/drop in ranking from the mid-season report.

EDIT: Oh it was ugly, alright. I'll try to smarten up and post it again.

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9 Saint John Sea Dogs in the NA American list, thats also every single player on the team that is first time eligible.
4 in the top 20 (Huberdeau, Beaulieu, Phillips and Jurco)
6 in top 50 (add Oke and Tesink)
2 more in top 100 (add Kelly and Bourret)
and then the last guy Cameron at 124


I get that they're the best junior team in the country but yeesh thats Saint John heavy

But damn can that team be even more impressive next year

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9 Saint John Sea Dogs in the NA American list, thats also every single player on the team that is first time eligible.
4 in the top 20 (Huberdeau, Beaulieu, Phillips and Jurco)
6 in top 50 (add Oke and Tesink)
2 more in top 100 (add Kelly and Bourret)
and then the last guy Cameron at 124


I get that they're the best junior team in the country but yeesh thats Saint John heavy

But damn can that team be even more impressive next year
Let's hire their coach.

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9 Saint John Sea Dogs in the NA American list, thats also every single player on the team that is first time eligible.
4 in the top 20 (Huberdeau, Beaulieu, Phillips and Jurco)
6 in top 50 (add Oke and Tesink)
2 more in top 100 (add Kelly and Bourret)
and then the last guy Cameron at 124


I get that they're the best junior team in the country but yeesh thats Saint John heavy

But damn can that team be even more impressive next year
I'm kind of bummed out that Tesink is 47 on the NA list. I was hoping to grab him in the 4th or 5th round but it looks like the scouts caught on. He's buried on a stacked roster but has a really nice skill set and good overall game. Great vision and he's a bit of a **** disturber. He'll probably have fantastic numbers next year after a few players graduate from that roster and he gets an increased role.

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There are 6 players that interest me as the Sens first choice, and since the worst they can pick is 6th...hopefully they get one of:

Nugent-Hopkins
Landeskog
Larsson
Huberdeau
Couturier
Strome

I suspect that the Sens will take either Huberdeau or Couturier, unless they can trade up to grab Landeskog.

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The Ottawa Senators are proud to select from the Portland Winterhawks of the WHL, Sven Bartschi!



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There are 6 players that interest me as the Sens first choice, and since the worst they can pick is 6th...hopefully they get one of:

Nugent-Hopkins
Landeskog
Larsson
Huberdeau
Couturier
Strome

I suspect that the Sens will take either Huberdeau or Couturier, unless they can trade up to grab Landeskog.
Wouldn't doubt the word that we are high on Strome.

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Zibanejad in the NA list looks like he would be just before Bartschi.

Looks like one of Couturier, Bartschi and Zibanejad at 5 for the Sens.

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Lets pick OLEKSIAK, JAMIESON (ranked 13) with our NSH pick just to pair him with Cowen

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Zibanejad in the NA list looks like he would be just before Bartschi.

Looks like one of Couturier, Bartschi and Zibanejad at 5 for the Sens.
Don't put all your stock into these lists.

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Don't put all your stock into these lists.
Unless Ottawa trades or LOSES the lottery and falls to 6th, it will be Huberdoue or Couturier (whoever is available of the 2).

Strome even though as skilled if not more is behind Huberdoue in terms of projectable size and overall game.

Huberdoue will be no shorter than 6-2 200 when he gets to the NHL. He plays a 2 way style.

Claude Giroux comparisson is only to the extent than Hubedoue is a lot better prospect than Giroux was and has more in the tool box.

And we can all agree Claude Giroux is a a sure fire top line player if not a great player.

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Unless Ottawa trades or LOSES the lottery and falls to 6th, it will be Huberdoue or Couturier (whoever is available of the 2).

Strome even though as skilled if not more is behind Huberdoue in terms of projectable size and overall game.

Huberdoue will be no shorter than 6-2 200 when he gets to the NHL. He plays a 2 way style.

Claude Giroux comparisson is only to the extent than Hubedoue is a lot better prospect than Giroux was and has more in the tool box.

And we can all agree Claude Giroux is a a sure fire top line player if not a great player.
How can you even say that?

People weren't even penciling in Ryan Johansen to the top 10 this time last year and he went 4th.

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As was said before, Strome actually rose on this list (he didn't drop) and on top of that CSS has a pretty poor track record. I think one look at these lists in comparison to most other lists out there can tell you all you need to know. Yes, sometimes the off-the-wall list can be right, but it's much more likely that they are all over the place again. Skinner a 2nd round talent? Turris > Kane? Etc.

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