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04-11-2011, 07:58 PM
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kopecky-toews-hossa
frolik-sharp-kane
smith-johnson-bickell
stahlberg-dowell-kruger

obviously if Bolland and Brouwer comes back that is different

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The only major change I would consider, is the same that the OP said, in maybe switching Kane and Hossa. Only reason I wouldn't do it for game one, is because Kane has played great against the Cannucks. However, I am really sick of his play of late, but maybe a line demotion would spark him a bit, and also make him feel like the offensive leader and playmaker of the 2nd line. Although, that could definitely get him into some trouble as well, with him forcing it a bit much, leading towards a lot of turnovers.
Are you joking?

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04-11-2011, 09:17 PM
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I don't think Pisani, Dowell, and Stalberg should be in the lineup, honestly.

One of Dowell and Pisani will be gone once Bolland returns, and one of Pisani or Stalberg has to go once Brouwer returns. I feel Kruger should be in the lineup over both Pisani and Stalberg. Stalberg makes too many bad decisions and has no heart on defense while Pisani is borderline useless. Kruger makes simple, smart decisions and eventually could hit the score sheet.

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04-11-2011, 09:47 PM
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Are you joking?
Yeah I dont understand it either

Kane = Showed up
Toews = MIA

These past few games ,, Not seeing why Kane is getting flak

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04-12-2011, 09:22 AM
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Yeah I dont understand it either

Kane = Showed up
Toews = MIA

These past few games ,, Not seeing why Kane is getting flak
Beach-Dowell-Scott
6min of absolute mayhem, then get off lol

Morin/Stalberg-Toews-Kane
Kopecky-Frolik-Hossa
Sharp-Johnson-Smith---Could be good to add Sharp as threat
Bickell-Bolland-Pisani(ease Bolland in)

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04-12-2011, 09:59 AM
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I don't think Pisani, Dowell, and Stalberg should be in the lineup, honestly.

One of Dowell and Pisani will be gone once Bolland returns, and one of Pisani or Stalberg has to go once Brouwer returns. I feel Kruger should be in the lineup over both Pisani and Stalberg. Stalberg makes too many bad decisions and has no heart on defense while Pisani is borderline useless. Kruger makes simple, smart decisions and eventually could hit the score sheet.
I'm not against Kruger in the lineup (mainly to help the PK), but we carried Pisani all year for this moment. Yeah, I wanna see him in there for at least the first 2 games. The guy went nutz with Edmonton, and although part of it may have had to do with him being from Edmonton, we have to see if can step up again. I'm not expecting it, but I'm not going to completely rule it out until he has at least a couple games under his belt.

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04-12-2011, 10:05 AM
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I would give Pisani the chance in the 1st game. If he sucks like the wings game he has to sit and Krüger should play. Dowell should be out for Brouwer and when Bolland is ready Stalberg has to go.

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04-12-2011, 10:29 AM
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Yeah I dont understand it either

Kane = Showed up
Toews = MIA

These past few games ,, Not seeing why Kane is getting flak

Kane has certainly shown up but he can be so scary when his passing lanes get clogged. He’s got to dump it along the boards occasionally rather than forcing a low percentage cross ice play. But that is Kane .. when it works he comes up smelling like a rose. Toews continues to mystify. He is back in the funk we saw him in last Fall. We need him badly or this series is over before it starts. His past record says he will be at his best in the post season but shoot, where was that intensity down the stretch? Does he have a nagging injury?


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04-12-2011, 10:35 AM
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I would give Pisani the chance in the 1st game. If he sucks like the wings game he has to sit and Krüger should play. Dowell should be out for Brouwer and when Bolland is ready Stalberg has to go.
Enough with Kruger already. He hasn't had enough time in the NHL. Pisani is much less a liability defensively and Stalberg will be playing, unless he plays himself out of the line-up. Dowell is likely out, and I hope Brouwer can make it back.

As for Bolland: some mixed feelings there for sure. It will be very difficult to be effective after such a layoff and he is risking serious injury if he isn't 100 percent.


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04-12-2011, 10:50 AM
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Enough with Kruger already. He hasn't had enough time in the NHL. Pisani is much less a liability defensively and Stalberg will be playing, unless he plays himself out of the line-up. Dowell is likely out, and I hope Brouwer can make it back.

As for Bolland: some mixed feelings there for sure. It will be very difficult to be effective after such a layoff and he is risking serious injury if he isn't 100 percent.
I hate Pisani as much as the next guy, but this is why we brought him in. I want to see Pisani and Johnson act like bats out of hell on that ice and show why veteran leadership in the playoffs means something.

I do not want to see Kruger on this ice one bit. Wait until next year to see what he and Morin can do.

If Brouwer and Bolland are ready at some point this series, then I say sit out Stalberg and Dowell as they would be the weakest links imo.

Whatever it takes to keep Ben Smith in this lineup, please Q do it. I love his energy and grit, plus his offensive skills are so underrated, the kid makes nice plays out there...just keep your head up kid or you gonna get killed out there!

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04-12-2011, 10:55 AM
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kopecky-toews-hossa
frolik-sharp-kane
smith-johnson-bickell
stahlberg-dowell-kruger

obviously if Bolland and Brouwer comes back that is different
I think the only way we win this is if we have 1 ultimate line that carries us. I dont want to see Kopecky anywhere near Kane and Toews and Hossa. I know Q loves to put some size along with those guys, but in all honesty, we have to put our stars with one another to have a chance here.

Sharp - Toews - Kane
Smith - Frolik - Hossa
Kopecky - Johnson - Bickell
Stalberg - Dowell - Pisani

it isnt pretty, but I would rather go down fighting with 1 all-star line then splitting them up. If we get Brouwer and Bolland back then ofcourse it changes things on the bottom 6 a bit. But this isnt gonna be easy folks.

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04-12-2011, 11:00 AM
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you ask what I want to see... I want to see a repeat


and not likely...

Brouwer - Toews - Kane
Sharp - Frolik - Hossa
Smith - Bolland - Kopy
Bickell - Johnson - Krüger


after the Wings game... Stalberg, Dowell and Pisani shouldn't play again
Little harsh. With the exception on one pass, he played fine for a 4th liner.

Did nobody else see what I saw with the 4th line on sunday? Bickell may have been the worst one. He was slow to do anything, and played extremely soft.

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Little harsh. With the exception on one pass, he played fine for a 4th liner. Did nobody else see what I saw with the 4th line on sunday? Bickell may have been the worst one. He was slow to do anything, and played extremely soft.

Not to mention that if 82 went to the net like he was supposed to, we had a good scoring chance on a partial 2 on 1. But that is water under the bridge now.

Stalberg's speed, and the 82-17-25 combo playing well like they often did down the stretch, is something we could definitely use.

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Not to mention that if 82 went to the net like he was supposed to, we had a good scoring chance on a partial 2 on 1. But that is water under the bridge now.

Stalberg's speed, and the 82-17-25 combo playing well like they often did down the stretch, is something we could definitely use.
Yea, they play well together for sure. Kopy definitely should have been going to the net on that play. I don't think some of you understand how poorly Bickell-Dowell-Pisani played. I think they had 2 good chances to score and dowell flubbed them both, and with the exception of those two times, spent the other 8:00+ minutes they had on the ice pinned in their own end because they were all horrible with the puck. I'm not sure if they won a single board battle between them. -3 in 10 minutes of ice time doesn't lie, they were ****ing terrible. Q almost sank our season by continuing to put them out there after about 5 minutes into the second when it was clear they would have been demolished by any line on Rockford.

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Yea, they play well together for sure. Kopy definitely should have been going to the net on that play. I don't think some of you understand how poorly Bickell-Dowell-Pisani played. I think they had 2 good chances to score and dowell flubbed them both, and with the exception of those two times, spent the other 8:00+ minutes they had on the ice pinned in their own end because they were all horrible with the puck. I'm not sure if they won a single board battle between them. -3 in 10 minutes of ice time doesn't lie, they were ****ing terrible. Q almost sank our season by continuing to put them out there after about 5 minutes into the second when it was clear they would have been demolished by any line on Rockford.
I do. Don't know why Bickell is getting a pass here. Oh wait--he's big, that must be it. You could pitch an 8 man tent in the time it takes him to get off the wrister. Herman Munster teetering around like a lost kid in as supermarket. Why Q played them much at all, and then continued to play them (against Datsyuk!), is utterly baffling. What on earth was he thinking?

I don't care if Kruger has no time in the NHL. I would rather have him (or maybe even Taffe) for 4 to 6 minutes a game than Dowell. Pisani is not even worth commenting on.

We really need 36 and 22 asap, and if not then it's gotta be a real short bench.

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04-12-2011, 01:37 PM
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Enough with Kruger already. He hasn't had enough time in the NHL. Pisani is much less a liability defensively and Stalberg will be playing, unless he plays himself out of the line-up. Dowell is likely out, and I hope Brouwer can make it back.
no... we all have seen that Pisani sucks. His D sucks and his O is just as bad as Krügers was.

Krüger is better than Pisani. Pisani was great 2006 with the Oilers. I give him the 1st game. If he sucks like he did against the Wings he is done in the NHL.

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With Bolland and Brouwer out:

Sharp-Toews-Kane
Bickell-Kopecky-Hossa
Frolik-Kruger-Smith
Stalberg-Johnson-Dowell

With those two in:

Sharp-Toews-Kane
Kopecky-Bolland-Hossa
Smith-Kruger-Frolik
Stalberg-Johnson-Brouwer

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Lines the same as they were on sunday:

Sharp-Toews-Hossa
Smith-Frolik-Kane
Stalberg-Johnson-Kopecky
Bickell-Dowell-Pisani

Although Brouwer is a big maybe on play tomorrow, so maybe the lines will be:

Sharp-Toews-Hossa
Smith-Frolik-Kane
Stalberg-Johnson-Kopecky
Bickell-Dowell-Brouwer

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Lines the same as they were on sunday:

Sharp-Toews-Hossa
Smith-Frolik-Kane
Stalberg-Johnson-Kopecky
Bickell-Dowell-Pisani

Although Brouwer is a big maybe on play tomorrow, so maybe the lines will be:

Sharp-Toews-Hossa
Smith-Frolik-Kane
Stalberg-Johnson-Kopecky
Bickell-Dowell-Brouwer
I like your second one if Brouwer's back.

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next game

Brouwer - Toews - Kane
Sharp - Frolik - Hossa
Bickell - Johnson - Smith
Stalberg - Dowell - Kopy/Pisani

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We really need to spread out the wealth IMO.

Frolik-Toews-Hossa
Brouwer-Sharp-Kane
Bickell-Dowell/Johnson-Smith
Stalberg-Johnson/Dowell-Pisani (if Kopecky is out)

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Correct me if I am wrong but Johnson never played another shift after hurting his kne

It is very real possibility we could be without both him and Kopecky

And Sharp isn't healthy asking him to play C puts alot more strain on him as he is clearly not 100%

Sharp-Toews-Kane
Brouwer-Frolik-Hossa
Bickell-Kruger-Smith
Stalberg-Dowell-Pisani

Ugh that bottom 6 ,,,, Love Smith but god that looks awful (Like Kruger but he isn't ready for primetime)

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Correct me if I am wrong but Johnson never played another shift after hurting his kne

It is very real possibility we could be without both him and Kopecky

And Sharp isn't healthy asking him to play C puts alot more strain on him as he is clearly not 100%

Sharp-Toews-Kane
Brouwer-Frolik-Hossa
Bickell-Kruger-Smith
Stalberg-Dowell-Pisani

Ugh that bottom 6 ,,,, Love Smith but god that looks awful (Like Kruger but he isn't ready for primetime)
You, and everyone else for that matter, need to hop on ye ol' Twitter. Johnson is fine, Kopecky is the one where Q said "We'll see".

As much as I want Kruger in the line-up, I doubt he gets a sniff.

If Sharp is healthy enough to play wing, he's healthy enough to play C...

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You, and everyone else for that matter, need to hop on ye ol' Twitter. Johnson is fine, Kopecky is the one where Q said "We'll see".

As much as I want Kruger in the line-up, I doubt he gets a sniff.

If Sharp is healthy enough to play wing, he's healthy enough to play C...
That's the point

Sharp doesn't look 100% and to play C you need to carry more D responsibilites

Frolik has done fine in recent games at #2 C (Played well tonight)

We just gotta find someway of getting a 2nd line consistantly producing

Keep STK together and try Brouwer/Frolik/Hossa

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Sharp Toews Kane line needs to stay together. Any chance we have relies on the offense of our top six.

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