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06-12-2011, 03:45 PM
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Leslie's article certainly doesn't give me any warm and fuzzy feeling.

http://hfrangersblog.com/2011/06/12/...ollege-player/

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As unwarranted as I believe immense concern about Kreider’s return to BC is, I have to admit that I am much less than certain that he will eventually sign with the Rangers than I was about some of the other recent NCAA prospects. It is very risky to select a player from an area of the country that he feels such a connection to, who does not leave his home area to go away to junior or prep hockey and then college, and is a big fan of the local NHL team. Just the thought of it leaves me a little uneasy.
Me too.

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06-12-2011, 04:12 PM
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Kreider is an idiot. If this was any other program that actually was handling him correctly, I'd agree with him. If this is a ploy to leave the Rangers organization as Leslie hints at, then what can you do? Not much, really.

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06-12-2011, 04:12 PM
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Hmm. I still think Kreider ends up a Ranger, but at what point does Sather decide to try to get something for him before it's too late?

Would Girardi, Boyle, Kreider be enough to grab Lucic? Is that giving up too much for a guy like Lucic, who until this year (30 goals, 60 points) had never broken 20 goals?

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06-12-2011, 04:14 PM
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Not only is that not enough for Lucic but also there is no way BOS trades one of their best young players to a rival.

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06-12-2011, 04:18 PM
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Looks like my suspicions may be right.

I questioned before does he want to be a Ranger.

edit: In fact Eddie had he and Stepan on his show a couple of years ago. And if I'm wrong I stand corrected, but IIRC, Eddie said shortly after the interview he got the feeling that Kreider wasn't all that thrilled with being a Ranger.


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06-12-2011, 04:22 PM
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I hope to God this isn't true..
We finally have a legit future potential 1st line LW'er and theres speculation that he may not want to be a Ranger?

Boy -- if that is the case you can package Kreider, Del Zotto and this years 1st round pick to get something really really good back.

I'm talking Spezza territory... Maybe along with a Regin. You'll probably have to add more.

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06-12-2011, 04:24 PM
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I think the people most disappointed about this are those who had Kreider penciled in at LW along with Richards and Gaborik. I agree it's not the best decision for us from a development standpoint, but it's hardly the bad omen that many here are making it out to be.
yeah, that's pretty insane. a rookie 1st line LW. This is Chris Kreider here, not Thomas Vanek and I think even Vanek was only a 2nd liner in his rookie season.

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06-12-2011, 04:24 PM
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If they have any hint that he doesn't want to be a ranger, dump him. I don't want guys on this team that don't want to be here and it's not worth taking a risk like that.

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06-12-2011, 04:26 PM
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Looks like my suspicions may be right.

I questioned before does he want to be a Ranger.
I don't buy into it at all. Last year lots of people thought the same about McDonough not wanting to be a NY Ranger.

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06-12-2011, 04:27 PM
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Who the hell would actually turn down the Rangers? We're the ****ing New York Rangers! Yeah I don't buy it that he doesn't want to come here. He actually apologized on twitter for tweeting lets go Bruins or something like that. This happened way after the Rangers were out btw.

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06-12-2011, 04:27 PM
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Calling Kreider an idiot is going a little too far.


Kreider will be a Ranger. book it. No reason to put this negative notion in everyone's head with-out any proof to back it up.


Kreider's recent tweets:

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@MikeRiz09 just taking advantage of rooting for my hometown team while I still can haha

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Lots of baseless speculation going on here. Wanting to play another season of college puck (versus riding a bus around the AHL) does not equal "not wanting to be a Ranger".

Same thing was said about McDonagh last year.

I have been fortunate enough to get to know quite a few college players over the years and the one common sticking point in the decision to go pro early is the AHL lifestyle. Another season on campus is a very difficult thing to turn down when the alternative is (very likely) grinding through a season or seasons in the AHL.

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I'd rather Chris play 45 games in Boston at 21 minutes a night than 80 games in Hartford at 12 minutes a night. If he does well in Hartford, yeah, he'll get more ice time, but if he doesn't he will get little ice time and that would be bad for his development. His minutes and next to guaranteed with York and minutes will be the most important thing for his development. People also seem to forget that in College Hockey, while they play for 45 games, they also practice another 45 games worth. 5x more than they get to in pro hockey because they don't have a bottom line to meet selling tickets like pro teams do.

Next summer, it'll be more like of an issue because he's gotten all that development time in by then and being a year older and more experienced would garner him more ice time in Hartford. Where he probably should spend 1/2 a season a la McDonagh or even 1 - 1.5 seasons a la Dubinsky/Callahan.
If Chris is that good, he probably would make his way up the depth charts with ease in Hartford.

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06-12-2011, 04:31 PM
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Not only is that not enough for Lucic but also there is no way BOS trades one of their best young players to a rival.
Tell that to Esposito, Park, and Ratelle.

I think that is enough for Lucic. Girardi would be loved in Boston; Boyle is another Boston kid who just scored 21 goals playing on the 4th line and is still only 26; and they get their homegrown top-end prospect in Kreider who would without a doubt sign with Boston next year.

Only problem is I'm not sure Boston needs Girardi. Boychuk is pretty much their version of him and he's younger and cheaper. However, Girardi could replace Kaberle who has been completely unspectacular at best. What a soft, soft player. Reminds me of Redden, honestly. There's no way I see Boston keeping him, even if he would sign at a discount.

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He does seem like a strong Boston guy.

No way of knowing this but if we were the freaking Bruins, I bet he'd sign....

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Hmm. I still think Kreider ends up a Ranger, but at what point does Sather decide to try to get something for him before it's too late?

Would Girardi, Boyle, Kreider be enough to grab Lucic? Is that giving up too much for a guy like Lucic, who until this year (30 goals, 60 points) had never broken 20 goals?
Del Zotto + 2 firsts for Lucic.

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I'm all for trading him for a center.

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I just wrote a blog post on this subject. It can be read at: http://hfrangersblog.com/2011/06/12/...ollege-player/
I didn't see any sources there so I dusting this up to more paranoid speculation. And him tweeting Go Bruins? Come on. He born and raised in Massachusetts. I'm sure playing for BC has been a life long dream of his and he's dreamt of seeing the Bruins win the cup. The Rangers are no longer in the playoffs so it's totally fine for a player to root for another team. Countless NHL players publicly do so for their ex-teams or because an ex-teammate is in the finals. Why should a college kid get different standards? This is turning into a crazy witch hunt. If it continues, it'll be no wonder Kreider wouldn't want to play for this bi-polar fan base. get a hold of yourselves people. SPECULATION. If we have hard facts, then we can criticize and nitpick the facts but I feel everyone is demonizing this kid based on speculation and heresay.

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If Chris is that good, he probably would make his way up the depth charts with ease in Hartford.
Well, if his advisers (whomever they may be) aren't so confident, they will tell him otherwise. You don't even seem so sure yourself. Is that a gamble you want to take with one of your top prospects? Chris is RAW. We need to develop him, not throw him into the fire. You don't want to stunt his development and ruin his potential.

I can't believe how out of proportion this topic has gotten. Talk about making a mountain out of an anthill. Please let the real off season start so we can get off this insane topic.

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You mean he's making his own life choices?!? How selfish could he be!!

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You mean he's making his own life choices?!? How selfish could he be!!
Life choices in what sense? Ditching the team that drafted you in a momentous time in your life? The team that initiated the start of what may be your career?

Beggars can't be choosers. However, this is all speculation it seems.

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Del Zotto + 2 firsts for Lucic.
I'm not giving up that much for Lucic.

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I'm all for trading him for a center.
a month ago, Kreider was considered near untouchable by most posters and now he's chop liver? OK, it's one poster but I sense more people are turning coat on him. Yes, Kreider for an elite center is a no brainer but I get the feeling you'd take a 2nd line center for Kreider at this point. Bi-polar at its best.

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Life choices in what sense? Ditching the team that drafted you in a momentous time in your life? The team that initiated the start of what may be your career?

Beggars can't be choosers. However, this is all speculation it seems.

I was referring to him staying another year at BC. Him not signing with the Rangers is complete speculation like you said.

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I wouldn't think twice about including Kreider in a package for an elite player. Wouldn't think twice about it. Leslie's article has so far echoed all the concerns I've had for Kreider for awhile now.

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