New HF top Prospects article has Brayden Schenn as the top prospect, then we have Rundblad at #5 (Followed directly after by Tarensanko )
Then we have Cowen at number 18, not bad, two sens in the top 20.
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David Rundblad - D - Ottawa Senators
Height: 6-2, Weight: 198
Possibly the best hockey player currently not playing in North America, the puck-moving Rundblad plays for SEL powerhouse Skelleftea HC, a team coached by former Ottawa Senators scout, Anders Forsberg. Through 55 games, the 20-year-old posted 11 goals, 39 assists, and a plus-six while averaging over 22 minutes of ice time. For the Senators, Rundblad should be able to bring a steadying two-way presence from the blue line. He has enough skill to quarterback the power play but it is his high hockey IQ and his ability to transition the puck up ice that makes him a special prospect for the organization. He's already signed to an entry-level deal and should be expected to not only play in North America in 2011-12, but possibly transition directly to the NHL.
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Jared Cowen - D - Ottawa Senators
Height: 6-5, Weight: 227
The progression and evolution of this complete defender continued this year. Cowen always possessed the size and nastiness expected of an NHL, big-minute rearguard, and his 48 points in 58 games, 91 penalty minutes and +44 rating in the WHL this season showed he's really developed all in facets of his game. The 9th overall pick in 2009 is a good bet to debut as a pro next season, and with the Senators rebuilding, he'll get a long look at the NHL level. Unlike some other rookie pros, Cowen could effectively contribute in a third pairing role before moving up once he's ready.
I'm sure you've seen him play way more often than I have, but it is difficult to take your opinion seriously when you have "Zetterberg Sucks" as your sig.
I'm sure you've seen him play way more often than I have, but it is difficult to take your opinion seriously when you have "Zetterberg Sucks" as your sig.
Well obviously if they change the reason we complain about them we aren't going to complain anymore. Durr.
With that said I'm happy to see Rundblad get the attention he deserves. Someone posted a statistical analysis of Rundblad's defensive play a little while ago showing that he isn't as bad defensively as people make him out to be -- and in fact he makes many more good defensive plays than he does bad ones.
With that in mind he's only recently turned 20, he's 6'2-3 and has insane hockey instincts/IQ. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he became our best all around defenseman in the future as well as our clearcut #1. I also wouldn't be surprised if he just became an offensive specialist. I am pretty sure though that he'll have a long NHL career.
Some people don't really take anything from those rankings regardless.
Some do, and it's funny.
I think Rundblad at #5 is overrated. I question how much HF "scouts" actually see these guys play. Has anything really developed in Rundblad or did extra opportunity and an extra year just make a 35 point difference in his game.
In these types of rankings numbers mean to much, because most of the people reading them can only see the numbers. Imagine if Rundblad was ranked 15th, Sens fans would lose their minds more than ever. But, but, but....he made history!!!
And for the Rundblad lovers out there, trust me, I think it's great we have him, and we did well in that trade considering Tarasenko wasn't even a chance. Love that we'll have two big time puck handling talents on our PP and such, but I'm not sure he's a top 5 prospect in the world, not like he's being massively overrated or anything though.
That list had flaws all over it, and I'm not even really talking about DR.
Some people don't really take anything from those rankings regardless.
Some do, and it's funny.
I think Rundblad at #5 is overrated. I question how much HF "scouts" actually see these guys play. Has anything really developed in Rundblad or did extra opportunity and an extra year just make a 35 point difference in his game.
In these types of rankings numbers mean to much, because most of the people reading them can only see the numbers. Imagine if Rundblad was ranked 15th, Sens fans would lose their minds more than ever. But, but, but....he made history!!!
And for the Rundblad lovers out there, trust me, I think it's great we have him, and we did well in that trade considering Tarasenko wasn't even a chance. Love that we'll have two big time puck handling talents on our PP and such, but I'm not sure he's a top 5 prospect in the world, not like he's being massively overrated or anything though.
That list had flaws all over it, and I'm not even really talking about DR.
I think he's underrated at 5.
To me, I think he is number 1. Ahead of OEL, Johansen and Schenn.
Some people don't really take anything from those rankings regardless.
Some do, and it's funny.
I think Rundblad at #5 is overrated. I question how much HF "scouts" actually see these guys play. Has anything really developed in Rundblad or did extra opportunity and an extra year just make a 35 point difference in his game.
In these types of rankings numbers mean to much, because most of the people reading them can only see the numbers. Imagine if Rundblad was ranked 15th, Sens fans would lose their minds more than ever. But, but, but....he made history!!!
And for the Rundblad lovers out there, trust me, I think it's great we have him, and we did well in that trade considering Tarasenko wasn't even a chance. Love that we'll have two big time puck handling talents on our PP and such, but I'm not sure he's a top 5 prospect in the world, not like he's being massively overrated or anything though.
That list had flaws all over it, and I'm not even really talking about DR.
This post is just as annoying as any Fuhr post.
Of course to each individual person, or even a lot of people, any subjective list is going to have problems with it. Some more obvious than others.
I just find it weird that you'll hype the bejesus out of Karlsson, and stick up for him like his daddy if anyone says anything mean about him, but Rundblad is overrated after what he's accomplished? Rundblad has accomplished more than anyone else on that list, and he's still just turned 20 and has a lot of room to grow. Sometimes it just takes being given the opportunity to show people that you are underrated as a prospect.
Of course to each individual person, or even a lot of people, any subjective list is going to have problems with it. Some more obvious than others.
I just find it weird that you'll hype the bejesus out of Karlsson, and stick up for him like his daddy if anyone says anything mean about him, but Rundblad is overrated after what he's accomplished? Rundblad has accomplished more than anyone else on that list, and he's still just turned 20 and has a lot of room to grow. Sometimes it just takes being given the opportunity to show people that you are underrated as a prospect.
lol. Are you only saying that because I make fun of you?
I just don't see the same level of talent and ability. I'd love to be wrong. Karlsson's skill set just seems more impressive, dynamic and explosive and his ability to have that giving up 30 pounds bodes well for his development as he matures physically, that's just my take. I made it very clear I'm not hating on Rundblad, but I think 5 ends up being a little high.
When was the last time Ottawa had 1 prospect in the top 20, let alone 2. Was it Spezza?
.... Karlsson.
Anyways, I found HF's rankings to be pretty off the wall this year. The rankings 20-50 just made me scratch my head. Once it got into the top 10, it was a bit better but w/e, its their opinion.
Rundblad @ 5 is a tad high. He deserves to be top 10 though imo.
FWIW, I think Ryan Johanson is #1. That kid is going to be something special.
lol. Are you only saying that because I make fun of you?
I just don't see the same level of talent and ability. I'd love to be wrong. Karlsson's skill set just seems more impressive, dynamic and explosive and his ability to have that giving up 30 pounds bodes well for his development as he matures physically, that's just my take. I made it very clear I'm not hating on Rundblad, but I think 5 ends up being a little high.
I'm saying it because it was a stupid post much like Fuhr's. The only difference is that people like you on the board and most people don't like him.
You've seen a lot more Karlsson than Rundblad, and as has been pointed out in many trade topics on the main board Ottawa has a love affair with Karlsson because he's a bright spot during a sore season. Yes, he's very talented. Rundblad has similarly captured Skeleftea's fanbase, and there is evidence that suggests Rundblad could be just as good offensively, if not better, and is already better defensively. To me that's deserving of a top 5 pick in the world considering his skillset and accomplishments.
For example what about others' skillset or accomplishments on that list should project them to be higher than Rundblad?
He isn't PKing anymore and he's taking less important defensive minutes while playing in a "minor league" in comparison. '
Their defensive shortfallings not even considering the difference in competition, and minutes appears to be basically the same. Rundblad won't have the size disadvantage, but I'm one that thinks that points to Karlsson's upside in the defensive zone because he's learning to do it before he matures physically.
And yes, I've seen much more of Karlsson, which changes things. At this point I refuse to jump the gun based on a huge season.
Really hope his tone changes once he gets to Ottawa: "The guidance game is not for me". It probably will though.
I'm saying it because it was a stupid post much like Fuhr's. The only difference is that people like you on the board and most people don't like him.
You've seen a lot more Karlsson than Rundblad, and as has been pointed out in many trade topics on the main board Ottawa has a love affair with Karlsson because he's a bright spot during a sore season. Yes, he's very talented. Rundblad has similarly captured Skeleftea's fanbase, and there is evidence that suggests Rundblad could be just as good offensively, if not better, and is already better defensively. To me that's deserving of a top 5 pick in the world considering his skillset and accomplishments.
For example what about others' skillset or accomplishments on that list should project them to be higher than Rundblad?
But, I said before it's completely subjective.
He could be the next Marc-Andre Bergeron for all you know. Do you want that?
Sure he's had a great season, but he's far from a lock to even be an NHL regular.
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