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05-27-2011, 02:51 AM
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1.The Oilers wont take Larsson. It seems as if were going to draft RNH and he seems to be the BPA in this years draft. He is the consensus number 1 now.

2.RNH can't go into the minors. He either plays in the NHL or back to the WHL, he's too young for the AHL

3.RNH weighs 172 right now. He was 165 when the Rebels got eliminated and has put on 7 lbs since then (RNH himself said this in an interview with the team 1260) and this was a couple of weeks ago. I wouldn't be surprised if he weighs around 177-178 by the start of next season, possibly even more if he works hard enough.
I'm well aware RNH cannot go to the AHL. I meant return to his Red Deer Rebel team, though perhaps for clarity I should have said "return to amateur hockey".

As to RNH's size, the consensus from scouts (as evidenced in publications such as THN) is that a team that plays RNH in the NHL next year would be the laughing stock of the league given the danger of injuries/concussions.

Finally, not everyone has RNH as the BPA, though, if it was me making the decision, I would agree with you.

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Oilers trade 1st overall pick to Philly for Jeff Carter.

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I'm well aware RNH cannot go to the AHL. I meant return to his Red Deer Rebel team, though perhaps for clarity I should have said "return to amateur hockey".

As to RNH's size, the consensus from scouts (as evidenced in publications such as THN) is that a team that plays RNH in the NHL next year would be the laughing stock of the league given the danger of injuries/concussions.

Finally, not everyone has RNH as the BPA, though, if it was me making the decision, I would agree with you.
He has probably the most upside, but is the least NHL ready. Larsson, Landeskog or Couturier would be choices if the Oilers wanted a guy to immediately jump to the NHL.

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Don't expect Edmonton to offer up Hemsky + for Bogosian, especially if that + is a draft pick and a prospect. Cogliano, Smid and the 19th I could see, but if Atlantapeg thinks they will get a Hemsky out of Edmonton for Bogosian, they need to look elsewhere.
Winnipeg wouldn't give up Bogosian for Hemsky anyway.

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Winnipeg wouldn't give up Bogosian for Hemsky anyway.
I'm not an expert on Atlantapeg's management so I won't disagree, but I think Hemsky is the better piece, if signed to a reasonable extension.

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I'm not an expert on Atlantapeg's management so I won't disagree, but I think Hemsky is the better piece, if signed to a reasonable extension.
If he is signed is the key factor. 1 year of Hemsky is not worth the same amount as Hemsky signed for 3-5 years

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05-27-2011, 10:14 AM
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To me top line centers are guys who consistently get a PPG or very close to that. 3 of those guys you mentioned fit that bill(and all of them picked top 3) and the last 3 are just very good 2nd line guys(who all were picked with later picks)
Kesler scored 40 goals this year in a two way role. I'd put him in as a number one center, who was a first rounder anyway. Krejci and Bergeron I agree are not superstars, but I think they are in the "1B" mold that we hope Gagner gets to some day. Bergeron and Kesler were still first round picks too. Its easier to find a d-man in later rounds (Shea Weber second round, Mike Green late first I believe, Duncan Keith 2nd round, Zdeno Chara LATE).

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If he is signed is the key factor. 1 year of Hemsky is not worth the same amount as Hemsky signed for 3-5 years
Agreed. If Edmonton isn't planning on keeping Hemsky long term, and if they are making a deal, I could see them allowing Atlantapeg to talk to Hemsky about an extension before making a deal.

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Kesler scored 40 goals this year in a two way role.
Does Kesler do as well as he does if he gets top line/defensive pairing checking that the Sedins do?

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Who will they draft #1?

What trades can you see them making?
I think they take Larsson #1. I don't think they draft Nugent-Hopkins and finally commit to a young, potential franchise guy on the backend.

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Does Kesler do as well as he does if he gets top line/defensive pairing checking that the Sedins do?
As much as I dislike the guy, I think he still puts up similar numbers. He had a lot of time against Weber and Suter in the Nashville series and still lit them up. I for one think Kesler would put up similar numbers in a different situation.

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Why would we trade all that just for a player we can pick 2nd overall?

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I'm not an expert on Atlantapeg's management so I won't disagree, but I think Hemsky is the better piece, if signed to a reasonable extension.
I can agree with you on that Zeus. There have been a lot of Hemsky for Bogosian type proposals out there and I have always said that it didn't make sense for Atlanta. Not because I don't like Hemsky, he clearly is a better player than Bogosian (right now, and possibly always if Bogosian does not grow), but because 1 year of Hemsky is not worth 4 years of Bogosian.

Now if Hemsky was already signed to a 4 year deal at a good price?...... That is a different story altogether.

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Is it possible that the Oilers could go after FLA and trade down, giving FLA the chance at either the number 1 center in RNH or Larrson and perhaps the Oilers add to the deal to land Gubranson and the #3...?

Not sure what the price would be:

#1
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Cogliano / Omark
Hamilton / Pitlick
Tuebuert

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Gubranson

Oilers draft SC who can jump in right away and have Gubranson jumping in as well...

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05-27-2011, 02:13 PM
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He has probably the most upside, but is the least NHL ready. Larsson, Landeskog or Couturier would be choices if the Oilers wanted a guy to immediately jump to the NHL.
I agree - I'm not saying otherwise. I'm just saying I don't expect any GM in the league will play him in the NHL next season barring some entirely unforeseen set of circumstances.

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Meanwhile the Oilers have acquired Pronger, Pitkanen, Whitney and Visnovsky through trade since the lockout.



Depends what his frame is like in September. If he's around 180 he could be playing.
Yes, they did.
Thats just proves my point. Legit Centers, you don't get them like that.
Defenseman, you can.

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As much I was would of liked Couturier, or just a bigged skilled center on the Oilers.. I found some unquestionable facts that makes all sings point to the Oilers drafting RNH.

Couturier was born in Phoenix, AZ, USA and moved to Bathurst, NB, Canada at an early age.

The only NHLer from Phoenix was Jim Brown, played 3 games in 1983.

The only notable NHLers from NB are:
Don Sweeney 1989 2004 D 1115 52 221 273 112
Scott Pellerin 1993 2004 LW 536 72 126 198 16
Greg Malone 1977 1987 C 704 191 310 501 -104
Danny Grant 1966 1979 RW 736 263 273 536 -54

**Randy Jones 2004 2011 D 326 19 84 103 -10

and of course, Luc Bourdon 2007 2008 D 36 2 0 2 6. RIP.


RNH is from Burnaby.


I think the Oilers will just look at that informantion and go with the safer pick.

well, RNH it is then.
I welcome our future first liner and hall of famer from Burnaby.

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Is it possible that the Oilers could go after FLA and trade down, giving FLA the chance at either the number 1 center in RNH or Larrson and perhaps the Oilers add to the deal to land Gubranson and the #3...?

Not sure what the price would be:

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#19
Cogliano / Omark
Hamilton / Pitlick
Tuebuert

#3
Gubranson

Oilers draft SC who can jump in right away and have Gubranson jumping in as well...
Tallon is not gonna trade the first player he drafted as Florida GM. Gudbranson is going nowhere. Rather keep him and 3rd.

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As much I was would of liked Couturier, or just a bigged skilled center on the Oilers.. I found some unquestionable facts that makes all sings point to the Oilers drafting RNH.

Couturier was born in Phoenix, AZ, USA and moved to Bathurst, NB, Canada at an early age.

The only NHLer from Phoenix was Jim Brown, played 3 games in 1983.

The only notable NHLers from NB are:
Don Sweeney 1989 2004 D 1115 52 221 273 112
Scott Pellerin 1993 2004 LW 536 72 126 198 16
Greg Malone 1977 1987 C 704 191 310 501 -104
Danny Grant 1966 1979 RW 736 263 273 536 -54

**Randy Jones 2004 2011 D 326 19 84 103 -10

and of course, Luc Bourdon 2007 2008 D 36 2 0 2 6. RIP.


RNH is from Burnaby.


I think the Oilers will just look at that informantion and go with the safer pick.

well, RNH it is then.
I welcome our future first liner and hall of famer from Burnaby.
I wonder what Pittsburgh would have said to their fans if they didn't take Sydney Crosby because he was from Cole Harbour, NS

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As to RNH's size, the consensus from scouts (as evidenced in publications such as THN) is that a team that plays RNH in the NHL next year would be the laughing stock of the league given the danger of injuries/concussions.
When was the last time a No. 1 overall pick did NOT play in the NHL the following season? Erik Johnson? Doesn't happen often. Who was the last No. 1 overall pick from the CHL who didn't play right away?

I'm not saying you're wrong or that it can't happen, but I'd be shocked if Nugent-Hopkins didn't get at least 9 games next October.

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I'm well aware RNH cannot go to the AHL. I meant return to his Red Deer Rebel team, though perhaps for clarity I should have said "return to amateur hockey".

As to RNH's size, the consensus from scouts (as evidenced in publications such as THN) is that a team that plays RNH in the NHL next year would be the laughing stock of the league given the danger of injuries/concussions.

Finally, not everyone has RNH as the BPA, though, if it was me making the decision, I would agree with you.
I really dont see how they would be the laughing stock of the NHL if he was played. He has put on 7 lbs since his team was eliminated and still has a lot of time to put on more weight and get more stronger. I personally think he will be NHL ready, if Patrick Kane was ready to play in the NHL, I'm pretty sure RNH will be too. Plus RNH and Kane play very similar (they are both very agile). We'll see I guess but I think RNH plays in the NHL.

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They need to build on their defensive corps but I doubt they'll pass up RNH. They might even trade down?
It'll be interesting to watch for sure..

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