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04-15-2011, 01:37 AM
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Richardson had the game winning goal on his stick... too bad it had to be a bouncing puck, but that's the way it goes. The Kings D was a little too overzealous and on all three Sharks goals, the Kings three youngest defensemen were caught high or too aggressive (Johnson standing the blueline on the first goal, Doughty overplaying the hip check on goal two and Martinez getting caught on the third goal).

Can't complain about the Kings' effort, this is the type of game they have to force onto the Sharks. I think Quick could be sharper, he sometimes relies too much on his agility and does one too many splits and belly flops at times. The lone goal I'm sure he wishes he could get back is that Couture goal.

I could see Murray going back to the same lineup with Westgarth back in. They really don't have to change much of their game plan, just cut down on those mistakes. Tonight's game may send a message that this won't be an easy series and the Kings can also take something away from this game, that they can beat the Sharks.

Their effort tonight instilled more confidence in this team than I had prior to game one.

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I agree with each of your points.

Simmonds' half-hearted attempt to block the OT winner rubs me the wrong way.
Yeah, I hope people realize that I'm not just hating on Quick... The first goal WAS a bad rebound. The second goal was a HORRID play by Drew Doughty, but Quick didn't help his cause by letting in a soft goal.

I still love Wayne Simmonds, but WHY at THAT time in the game do you send a backhand sauce pass to the middle of the ice? That's what cost us the game and now if we lose Game 2 the series is pretty much all but over.

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Point 2 rings true with me and has something to do with what I was noticing all game. It seemed like Simmonds was consistently getting the puck caught in his skates this game. Oftentimes leading to losing battles on the boards and San Jose gaining the neutral zone as a result. He's gotta keep the puck on the tape! Gotta be more focused and not make ill-advised mistakes like that.

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It's just really frightening that the Kings can give the effort they did tonight and lose the game. This was the one they were supposed to win and it just didn't happen.

Great effort thought. Just have to battle even harder on Saturday. Anybody going to the ESPN Zone?

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Point 2 rings true with me and has something to do with what I was noticing all game. It seemed like Simmonds was consistently getting the puck caught in his skates this game. Oftentimes leading to losing battles on the boards and San Jose gaining the neutral zone as a result. He's gotta keep the puck on the tape! Gotta be more focused and not make ill-advised mistakes like that.
Well, the thing that gets me is he was putting the puck deep to his line mates ALL NIGHT.. Or at the very least wasn't sending a backhand sauce pass to the middle of the ice! Why at THAT point in OVERTIME do you do that? Ugh, that's frustrating. Especially for that specific line who has been great for us to get scored on....

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The kings played a great game. We have a chance to win this!

BTW I went to the watch party in Burbank. The atmosphere there was amazing!!!

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And if any disciplinary action occurs from Stoll's check on Ian White, I expect it to be a fine rather than a suspension. It wasn't a deliberate intent to hurt the player, Stoll doesn't have a background of being a dirty player or a history of suspensions, and there was no penalty called on the ice. In my opinion, a fine should suffice.

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It's just really frightening that the Kings can give the effort they did tonight and lose the game. This was the one they were supposed to win and it just didn't happen.

Great effort thought. Just have to battle even harder on Saturday. Anybody going to the ESPN Zone?
Small little mistakes that caused the results nothing more. I think the goals that the Kings allowed except the OT goal could be easily fixed.

You have to remember that the Sharks gave it everything they had at their home and the Kings absorbed and countered.

I think this game was is a perfect example of the Sharks winning the battle but the Kings won the mental war. I look to see a more determined and improved Kings team Sat night.

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And if any disciplinary action occurs from Stoll's check on Ian White, I expect it to be a fine rather than a suspension. It wasn't a deliberate intent to hurt the player, Stoll doesn't have a background of being a dirty player or a history of suspensions, and there was no penalty called on the ice. In my opinion, a fine should suffice.
Actually, people who don't get a penalty on the ice tend to get the suspensions. Fines are from game misconducts, which wasn't handed out in this case since the ref missed the hit. White 99% looks to have a concussion. He looked quite dazed coming off the ice. I think it'll be a 2 game minimum suspension.

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Small little mistakes that caused the results nothing more. I think the goals that the Kings allowed except the OT goal could be easily fixed.

You have to remember that the Sharks gave it everything they had at their home and the Kings absorbed and countered.

I think this game was is a perfect example of the Sharks winning the battle but the Kings won the mental war. I look to see a more determined and improved Kings team Sat night.
That could be the case. You may be right. All Doughty has to do is NOT try to throw the big hipcheck, and that goal doesn't even happen. Also, if you're prepared right from puck drop.. Hell, the Kings might even win in regulation.

Small mistakes that just CANNOT happen in the playoffs, that I hope don't happen in Game 2 or the rest of the series.

STILL though.. And I'm not just hating... Our offense is NOT good enough to endure soft goals.. Those types of goals CANT squeak by or else we do not have a chance.

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And if any disciplinary action occurs from Stoll's check on Ian White, I expect it to be a fine rather than a suspension. It wasn't a deliberate intent to hurt the player, Stoll doesn't have a background of being a dirty player or a history of suspensions, and there was no penalty called on the ice. In my opinion, a fine should suffice.

This is another reason why I definitely think he will be suspended.

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Actually, people who don't get a penalty on the ice tend to get the suspensions. Fines are from game misconducts, which wasn't handed out in this case since the ref missed the hit. White 99% looks to have a concussion. He looked quite dazed coming off the ice. I think it'll be a 2 game minimum suspension.
Shortly there after there was a hit by Jason Demers on Ryan Smyth.. It was the SAME EXACT HIT, but the only difference was the dashboard wasn't there. There won't be a suspension on Demers so I don't anticipate a suspension on Stoll...

Edit: Demers' hit might have been ever worse because he JUMPED into Smyth..

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Major Props from a Ducks fan. At least you guys showed up to play. Williams makes a huge difference. Sharks really did not look that scary. Good game by Brown of all people. Im rooting for you in this series. Doughty did not have a good game as I thought he just tried to do too much. Must stay physical and hit them every chance you got.

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Stoll definitely gets suspended imo, White having a concussion won't help his case either.
The result shouldn't have an effect on the suspension. Too bad it likely will.

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The result shouldn't have an effect on the suspension. Too bad it likely will.
Not really all that true. Chara didn't get a suspension on his hit that had a very dangerous result. Torres got 4 games on a hit where the guy played his very next shift.

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Shortly there after there was a hit by Jason Demers on Ryan Smyth.. It was the SAME EXACT HIT, but the only difference was the dashboard wasn't there. There won't be a suspension on Demers so I don't anticipate a suspension on Stoll...

Edit: Demers' hit might have been ever worse because he JUMPED into Smyth..
Huh? The hit on Smyth wasn't even from behind, no way was it worse than Stoll's

Stoll's biggest asset is his faceoff ability, so hopefully he gets no more than 1 game.

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Huh? The hit on Smyth wasn't even from behind, no way was it worse than Stoll's
Indeed, it was not a blindside hit by Demers at all. It might be my homer glasses on, but the postgame quotes makes it sound like Stoll knew White was in a vulnerable position.

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That could be the case. You may be right. All Doughty has to do is NOT try to throw the big hipcheck, and that goal doesn't even happen. Also, if you're prepared right from puck drop.. Hell, the Kings might even win in regulation.

Small mistakes that just CANNOT happen in the playoffs, that I hope don't happen in Game 2 or the rest of the series.

STILL though.. And I'm not just hating... Our offense is NOT good enough to endure soft goals.. Those types of goals CANT squeak by or else we do not have a chance.
You're asking for a flawless game and that's impossible in my opinion. It's a mental game, all the Kings can do is improve from their mistakes and settle the game down thats all.

They can't out-skill their opponents nor can they play a mistake free game, especially going against a more skilled offense. The Kings played a hell of a game tonight, it's a disappointing loss but at least we know that the Kings aren't going to roll over.

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Huh? The hit on Smyth wasn't even from behind, no way was it worse than Stoll's

Stoll's biggest asset is his faceoff ability, so hopefully he gets no more than 1 game.
He JUMPED with this elbow leading right into Ryan Smyths head.. I'm trying to figure out how that's even debatable.. The only difference is, is one guy got injured and one guy didn't.

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And if any disciplinary action occurs from Stoll's check on Ian White, I expect it to be a fine rather than a suspension. It wasn't a deliberate intent to hurt the player, Stoll doesn't have a background of being a dirty player or a history of suspensions, and there was no penalty called on the ice. In my opinion, a fine should suffice.
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Actually, people who don't get a penalty on the ice tend to get the suspensions. Fines are from game misconducts, which wasn't handed out in this case since the ref missed the hit. White 99% looks to have a concussion. He looked quite dazed coming off the ice. I think it'll be a 2 game minimum suspension.
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This is another reason why I definitely think he will be suspended.
What punishment did Ribiero get from the league from his elbow to the head of Handzus that wasn't called on the ice?

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You're asking for a flawless game and that's impossible in my opinion. It's a mental game, all the Kings can do is improve from their mistakes and settle the game down thats all.

They can't out-skill their opponents nor can they play a mistake free game, especially going against a more skilled offense. The Kings played a hell of a game tonight, it's a disappointing loss but at least we know that the Kings aren't going to roll over.
I'm sorry, but the Kings must (without Kopitar) play a flawless game if they expect to win the series. They played GREAT, but they need to play a mistake-free game if they want to win.

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He JUMPED with this elbow leading right into Ryan Smyths head.. I'm trying to figure out how that's even debatable.. The only difference is, is one guy got injured and one guy didn't.
The majority of kings fans, from what I have read, haven't taken any issue at all to the Demers hit. Many are seeing a potential suspension on Stoll for his hit. It might be the homer glasses in this case for you.

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if the kings pull this out I will be rooting for them for sure, great game and still anyone's series.
I wish Kopi a speedy recovery, I felt terrible when he was injured. I like the kings, its hard not to you like kings fan base too from reading your forums here.

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I've never been this happy after a loss. I walked into it saying I just wanted to see Williams make an impact and the team as a whole show they were capable. We more than did that. Williams was incredible, added energy out there. Sure, a win is a win and a loss is a loss, but holy crap guys we can do this. We will do this, believe Go Kings Go, looking forward to stealing game two. You know they are shaking in their boots a lil. Bring on the meltdown!!!

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when stoll gets suspended i doubt DL calls up schenn. Well probably see harrold or drewiske

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