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04-17-2011, 10:32 AM
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Dumont & Drury to be bought out this summer?

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Nashville GM David Poile is a sharp cookie, but he must wake up every morning and say, “What did I give (J.P.) Dumont $4 million a year for?” Dumont has been a healthy scratch for 12 games during the season and the first two games of the playoffs. The Predators will likely be buying him out in June at two-thirds of his salary spread out over two seasons.
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When a team’s captain plays only 7- minutes of a playoff game, that’s a fairly telling statement for the Rangers’ Chris Drury. Drury is a warrior and a Stanley Cup champion who has a history of coming up big in the playoffs but his body seems to be wearing down. What do they do with the oft-injured centre who has a year left at $5 million? It’s a dicey situation for a very good guy. Do they buy him out or hope he stays healthy?
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Drury's a mess. Granted, I'm sure if he's bought out there would be plenty of clamour to bring him back here next year even though he's nowhere near the player he was when he left.

And as a replacement for Nieds on the fourth line... on a value contract... it might work.

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no thanks if thats what youre getting at...

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no thanks if thats what youre getting at...
It only works if he's slotted for fourth line duty as a faceoff/PK specialist making about Niedermayer money. Granted, I think the team has moved on and the shift in the 'room is evident from Miller's comments about Briere leaving, etc.... in that it may not be well-regarded by the players to bring someone back after they rightly or wrongly spurned the team in the past.

As for Dumont... loved JP here but he's looking like someone who is nearing the end.

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JP's done. No thanks to him in any fashion.

Drury probably still has some use, but not anywhere close to the kind of game he played when he was here. As a third line checking forward and faceoff guy? Absolutely, but it would depend on his price. If he thinks he's smelling another contract close to what he got in NY, he's out of his mind.

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I could see :

Drury to Detroit at about 1-1.5, he would fill the role left by Modano when he retires.

Dumont will go to a team that needs Vetern Leadership and can chip in a few goals here and there.. Anaheim,Phoenix,or like a Toronto or Florida who need to place a stop gap here and there for a year or two until there prospects grasp the Nhl game.

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If Dumont suddenly learned how to play center, then maybe I'd consider it.

Drury...it would have to be real cheap and he would be the #3 center--we'd still need a #2 center. But given our lack of center depth, I'd welcome Drury in that role. But I don't see him signing for #3 center money.

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I could see :

Drury to Detroit at about 1-1.5, he would fill the role left by Modano when he retires.

Dumont will go to a team that needs Vetern Leadership and can chip in a few goals here and there.. Anaheim,Phoenix,or like a Toronto or Florida who need to place a stop gap here and there for a year or two until there prospects grasp the Nhl game.
I could see Drury on a short deal in Florida too -- Tallon is trying to build something there and the lack of state income tax would make a value deal a bit more appealling. He can be all scowly in his mouth-guard chewing glory, teaching the Florida youngsters how to be scowly and chew mouth-guards, etc.... while they build for the future.

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I don't think Drury would ever come back here. God forbid he should go somewhere in public and people know who he is.

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Sign him 1m 1y .. Do it . 3rd line or 4th line center

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Sign him 1m 1y .. Do it . 3rd line or 4th line center
I'm cool with this.

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No thanks to either of them.


At this point we have better options already here.

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I don't think Drury would ever come back here. God forbid he should go somewhere in public and people know who he is.
I wouldn't be so sure of that assumption - just like Briere just admitted in a recent interview that "the people that didn't want me are no longer there" (i.e. Golisano and Quinn), I don't think Drury begrudges Regier as much as he probably does the past ownership for both pulling his own contract extension in fall of 2006 and for the subsequent mistreatment they doled on Briere.

Drury loved the city and has said in interviews that he grew the most as a player under Ruff.

That said, I agree with all of the posts noting that other than as a 3rd line role player at a considerably cheaper salary, he wouldn't be the right fit. However, with Grier likely retiring this summer and Niedermayer being set free, there's some room for a veteran role player who can command a lockerroom and be a good role model for the work ethic of younger players - especially when the Sabres seem destined to integrate more of their prospects in the next year or two. At $1.5 - 2M, I could still see Drury being an asset that could improve the roster.

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At this point we have better options already here.
For Dumont yes. But Drury?

If this playoffs is proving anything, we have NO center options. I really think we need to get 2 centers this offseason. Drury could be one. But its gonna be all about the price tag.

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For Dumont yes. But Drury?

If this playoffs is proving anything, we have NO center options. I really think we need to get 2 centers this offseason. Drury could be one. But its gonna be all about the price tag.
Drury doesn't belong in the top 6 anymore and Goose is a better option for the 3rd line.

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No thanks.

Goose is back to something like his best after some injuries etc.
He's twice the player Drury is at this point if we're talking about center the 3rd line.

JP looks done. Which is a shame, he was very good in Nashville til this season.

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For Dumont yes. But Drury?

If this playoffs is proving anything, we have NO center options. I really think we need to get 2 centers this offseason. Drury could be one. But its gonna be all about the price tag.
I agree that we do need to get a guy in the off season, even if it is a 3rd liner (which it more than likely will be). That being said, wouldn't we be perfectly fine if Roy was healthy center wise right now? Goose has been playing well and Connolly has been a beast defensively and solid if unspectacular offensively (which can only be said for a handful of our forwards right now).

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I wouldn't mind Drury if we had no other options and if he came very cheap. I think he's still ok on faceoffs and might not be so bad in a limited 4th line, PK specialist type role. Ruff doesn't really run the team that way however so Drury probably isn't a good fit.

I agree with the need for landing 2 centers this off season. We need a true 1st liner and I'm hoping for Laich to replace Neids. Goose can be on the 4th line and can move up to the 3rd when injuries happen.

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I wouldn't mind Drury if we had no other options and if he came very cheap. I think he's still ok on faceoffs and might not be so bad in a limited 4th line, PK specialist type role. Ruff doesn't really run the team that way however so Drury probably isn't a good fit.

I agree with the need for landing 2 centers this off season. We need a true 1st liner and I'm hoping for Laich to replace Neids. Goose can be on the 4th line and can move up to the 3rd when injuries happen.
If you mean that Laich is a true 1st liner then you're mistaken.

I would take Drury back on the cheap to be 4th line / PK specialist.

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I wouldn't mind Drury if we had no other options and if he came very cheap. I think he's still ok on faceoffs and might not be so bad in a limited 4th line, PK specialist type role. Ruff doesn't really run the team that way however so Drury probably isn't a good fit.

I agree with the need for landing 2 centers this off season. We need a true 1st liner and I'm hoping for Laich to replace Neids. Goose can be on the 4th line and can move up to the 3rd when injuries happen.
Why would you put him back on the 4th line?

At this point its pretty clear he can more than handle the 3rd line role.

They need to add one center. 2 would be even better but they really only need 1 more.

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Dumont has settled in Nashville permenantly. While I was one of the first to say he'll be bought out, I also believe that he'll either retire or sign with Nashville for the minimum. Outside of spending a week a year in Montreal during the summer, he and his family are year-round residents of Middle Tennessee.

Alex Burrows drilling JP in the head with a flying elbow at center ice two years ago began a quick decline to his career. JP has never been the same player since...

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Why would you put him back on the 4th line?

At this point its pretty clear he can more than handle the 3rd line role.

They need to add one center. 2 would be even better but they really only need 1 more.
Then keep Goose on the 3rd line and sign Drury for the 4th, I don't really care how the lines are numbered.

This is our center depth right now:

Roy
Gaustad

Portland: Byron

That's it. Now even if we re-sign Connolly, we're still severely shorthanded at center and if we get injuries like we did this year (and will happen over the course of an 82 game season) we end up having to play Boyes or Hecht at center, neither of which are ideal for the long-term. And worst cast scenario we can move Goose or Drury or even Roy to wing if we need to. We need center depth badly, and just because Goose could play 3rd line center doesn't mean its a waste to put him on a 4th line--it means we actually have the depth that we can afford to do so.

It's not a question of Goose's abilities, it's about the severe lack of depth that we have at center and the need to get more bodies. I do not want to go into next season with only 3 natural centers on the roster like we have been doing for years now.

And besides, if Goose is on the 4th line and Drury on the 3rd...those lines are probably gonna be more like 3a/3b and get about the same ES ice time because Ruff can put more faith in the 4th line.

The biggest sticking point is gonna be money. If Drury is asking for anything more than 3M and I probably pass (although if we have unused cap space and it's a one-year deal [so it wouldn't affect ability to re-sign Ennis/Myers] it may not be a bad gamble--with the new budget, there is no reason to not be spending right to the cap). Between 2M and 3M and I'd definitely consider it. Anything less than 2M and I'd jump on it and worry about the lines later--but I'd doubt Drury signs for that low.

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Considering our center depth at the moment and the fact that Neids will probably be gone, the team will probably be looking for a 3rd/4th line center... If we were to sign Drury it would be for Neidermeyer kind of deal and I'm sure, just like Neids, we would want him out of Buffalo for a good part of the season. Neids; however, surprised me down the stretch and in the playoffs so far and I would guess Drury may do the same on a Lindy Ruff style team. With that said, I wouldn't be opposed to it, albeit I won't be mad if we choose to go another direction to fix this center depth issue.

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I'd be interested in Drury for the right price. He's a versatile player with a tremendous work ethic. He'd have to be signed before he turns 35 on August 20th.

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