First post, but a huge Flyers fans. Here is my take on the team next season. I personally think it's a decent looking team.
Obviously there are a couple of contracts in there TBA/TBC and lines can be re-jigged, but I don't think any are too unrealistic.
What do you guys think?
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Erik Cole ($3.750m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Scott Hartnell ($4.200m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($2.500m)
Simon Gagne ($3.000m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.500m)
Tom Sestito ($0.550m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Andreas Nodl ($0.845m)
DEFENSEMEN
Matt Carle ($3.437m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Anton Babchuk ($1.750m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.666m) / Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,118,095; BONUSES: $3,815,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $1,181,904
sorry to come in and don't stay on topic, but I like that this thread has over 650 posts now. I started this just to get 10-15 answers and see what you think
BTW, you will have a hell of a team going forward. Maybe not next year but we will meet us again in the SC Finals
Let's assume for a moment that Stamkos is possible. Trade Carle and Hartnell *or bury him in the minors of not willing to waive NTC*. Simmonds and Voracek are considered at best case scenario for RFAs. We forget Leino and keep Shelley. Try to get some UFAs at lower cap hits.
Again, best case scenario. Anyone that can't be acquired would have to be filled with a lower-cost Phantom, and we do have some in the system that can handle the load, if need be, but it's not optimal.
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FORWARDS
Sergei Samsonov ($2.000m) / Steven Stamkos ($9.580m) / Kris Versteeg ($3.083m)
Tomas Fleischmann ($2.750m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Jakub Voracek ($1.850m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.500m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Andreas Nodl ($0.845m)
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Braydon Coburn ($3.200m)
Chris Pronger ($4.921m) / Anton Babchuk ($1.650m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Shane O'Brien ($1.650m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.666m) / Brian Boucher ($0.925m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,068,928; BONUSES: $2,965,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $1,196,072
I like Fleischmann, but I'm wary of his injuries, much like Gagne. Fleischmann is a very good and underrated player.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthYoda28
Let's assume for a moment that Stamkos is possible. Trade Carle and Hartnell *or bury him in the minors of not willing to waive NTC*. Simmonds and Voracek are considered at best case scenario for RFAs. We forget Leino and keep Shelley. Try to get some UFAs at lower cap hits.
Again, best case scenario. Anyone that can't be acquired would have to be filled with a lower-cost Phantom, and we do have some in the system that can handle the load, if need be, but it's not optimal.
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Sergei Samsonov ($2.000m) / Steven Stamkos ($9.580m) / Kris Versteeg ($3.083m)
Tomas Fleischmann ($2.750m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Jakub Voracek ($1.850m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.500m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Andreas Nodl ($0.845m)
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Braydon Coburn ($3.200m)
Chris Pronger ($4.921m) / Anton Babchuk ($1.650m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Shane O'Brien ($1.650m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.666m) / Brian Boucher ($0.925m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,068,928; BONUSES: $2,965,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $1,196,072
Hartnell isn't going anywhere. If Homer/Mr. Snider want more size up front then I doubt they're going to move their only legitimate power forward. If somehow we end up with Stamkos then I'd have to imagine if two of Versteeg, Carle or Bobrovsky are moved.
First post, but a huge Flyers fans. Here is my take on the team next season. I personally think it's a decent looking team.
Obviously there are a couple of contracts in there TBA/TBC and lines can be re-jigged, but I don't think any are too unrealistic.
What do you guys think?
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Erik Cole ($3.750m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Scott Hartnell ($4.200m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($2.500m)
Simon Gagne ($3.000m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.500m)
Tom Sestito ($0.550m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Andreas Nodl ($0.845m)
DEFENSEMEN
Matt Carle ($3.437m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Anton Babchuk ($1.750m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.666m) / Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,118,095; BONUSES: $3,815,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $1,181,904
Zero interest on Babchuk. You need more than 20 players.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthYoda28
Let's assume for a moment that Stamkos is possible. Trade Carle and Hartnell *or bury him in the minors of not willing to waive NTC*. Simmonds and Voracek are considered at best case scenario for RFAs. We forget Leino and keep Shelley. Try to get some UFAs at lower cap hits.
Again, best case scenario. Anyone that can't be acquired would have to be filled with a lower-cost Phantom, and we do have some in the system that can handle the load, if need be, but it's not optimal.
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Sergei Samsonov ($2.000m) / Steven Stamkos ($9.580m) / Kris Versteeg ($3.083m)
Tomas Fleischmann ($2.750m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Jakub Voracek ($1.850m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.500m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Andreas Nodl ($0.845m)
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Braydon Coburn ($3.200m)
Chris Pronger ($4.921m) / Anton Babchuk ($1.650m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Shane O'Brien ($1.650m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.666m) / Brian Boucher ($0.925m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,068,928; BONUSES: $2,965,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $1,196,072
Terrible team. Makes no sense to have Schenn on the 4th line. No thanks to Fleishman and Samsonov. Defense is terrible.
Hartnell isn't going anywhere. If Homer/Mr. Snider want more size up front then I doubt they're going to move their only legitimate power forward. If somehow we end up with Stamkos then I'd have to imagine if two of Versteeg, Carle or Bobrovsky are moved.
This. We've actually regressed in size/grit. We need to find a way to get Cole, Rupp, and Konopka, or something like that.
Looking good! I see Erik Cole being signed by the Flyers tomorrow, if not in Carolina. If Carolina gives him a good offer though, he'll stay. Therefore, I think the Flyers need to pursue both Leino and Cole heavily so they don't lose the leads on both. I doubt Gagne will be pursued, let alone want to come here again.
Priorities for tomorrow would be; a) sign Leino! b) if not Leino, Cole. c) O'Donnell or veteran 6th defenseman. d) 4th line character players, preferably someone with faceoff skill.
Hartnell isn't going anywhere. If Homer/Mr. Snider want more size up front then I doubt they're going to move their only legitimate power forward. If somehow we end up with Stamkos then I'd have to imagine if two of Versteeg, Carle or Bobrovsky are moved.
I just met Scott today at the airport. I think he was in town golfing. He seemed like a really nice guy, I asked him about Carter and Richards and he said it will be weird for sure. Then when I brought up Couturier, it seemed like he hadn't heard of him..."is that kid any good?" He was probably just messing around, but ya off topic I know but he was a really cool guy.
Looking good! I see Erik Cole being signed by the Flyers tomorrow, if not in Carolina. If Carolina gives him a good offer though, he'll stay. Therefore, I think the Flyers need to pursue both Leino and Cole heavily so they don't lose the leads on both. I doubt Gagne will be pursued, let alone want to come here again.
Priorities for tomorrow would be; a) sign Leino! b) if not Leino, Cole. c) O'Donnell or veteran 6th defenseman. d) 4th line character players, preferably someone with faceoff skill.
Just my $.02.
Looking good? Honestly MTL is about the same size we are now. They have a couple guys who are 6'3" 215. We need size. Putting Versteeg up there didn't help your argument. Playing the Pittsburghs, Tampa Bays, Washingtons, and most of all...Boston's of the world is going to get our forwards destroyed. Add Buffalo to that list now...
NOTES:
Line 1: It would be nice to get Ville Leino signed, but if not, then maybe Vrbata. Ideally, however, adding Brad Richards would be super fantastic, but I think he would sign with Torts and the Rangers over the FLyers (Rangers have more cap room, too), so I'm not really expecting Brad in Orange and Black duds. If Flyers can't get either Leino or Vrbata, then maybe Couturier can center a line with Briere and Voracek.
Line 2: I think I like it, providing Schenn is ready; I think he is.
Line 3: Pretty substantial 3rd line, if you ask me. I like Zherdev over Versteeg, assuming the Flyers get him signed. Remember the majic Giroux and Zherdev had in spurts last season. JVR and Giroux also have some good chemistry.
line 4: checking line: throw the best checkers we got on it, whoever they turn out to be; if we can get some scoring from the line, thats a bonus.
TRADES/Free Agency:
1. - Get either Brad Richards, Vile Leino or Vrbata signed from free agency.
2. - Trade Versteeg (or send to minors: lose the salary hit!) and pick up Eric Cole, who colud play on any of the lines. Or, just trade Versteeg and use the salary elsewhere.
3. - Get stronger 6th defenseman, if possible.
Looking good? Honestly MTL is about the same size we are now. They have a couple guys who are 6'3" 215. We need size. Putting Versteeg up there didn't help your argument. Playing the Pittsburghs, Tampa Bays, Washingtons, and most of all...Boston's of the world is going to get our forwards destroyed. Add Buffalo to that list now...
Looking good! I see Erik Cole being signed by the Flyers tomorrow, if not in Carolina. If Carolina gives him a good offer though, he'll stay. Therefore, I think the Flyers need to pursue both Leino and Cole heavily so they don't lose the leads on both. I doubt Gagne will be pursued, let alone want to come here again.
Priorities for tomorrow would be; a) sign Leino! b) if not Leino, Cole. c) O'Donnell or veteran 6th defenseman. d) 4th line character players, preferably someone with faceoff skill.
Just my $.02.
Size doesnt = power forward. Carter had size. You need a few guys that are agressive like Hartnell. Simmonds fits the bill, but a little light at less than 200lbs....Boston had Horton and Lucic.
And here is the smallest on their team bulldozing the guy some of us want to re-sign for $3.5m+
Sorry not feelin it.
Yeah, that's not size; that's toughness and aggression. If your argument was that we need "size," Lucic would be pretty much the only example, in terms of forwards.
He was probably just messing around, but ya off topic I know but he was a really cool guy.
not feelin it.
