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hope he finds a spot on Plymouth. Seemed like a real nice kid.

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Michael Nishi – Unless he has an amazing camp I think his chances at making the team are nearly done. I don’t think he remains a part of the organization after training camp since he will never likely be a starter.
I don't know what it is about Nishi, but part of me wants to like him as a goaltender, part of me really doesn't. Seems like a nice kid who gives it his all, but he's so rigid out there and doesn't seem to be phased by anything.

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Michael Clarke – Looked like he just wasn’t quite ready during training camp yet looked much better when he was called up throughout the season. Definite potential as a second or third line center next season.
Not to put pressure on the kid, but I'm hoping for fairly big things from him next year. Not 20g/50pts, but reasonable totals.

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Anthony Cortellessa – At the very least he should be on the fourth line this season.

Ty Bilcke – At the very least he should be on the fourth line this season.
Cortellessa should certainly see a ton of time on a third or fourth line. The coaches seem to like him a lot.

Mark my words - Bilcke will be the enforcer next year. I'm standing by that.

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Bryan Deeley - Should be in the bottom pairing on the blue line this season.

John Bowen - Should be in the bottom pairing on the blue line this season.
Deeley showed a ton of promise in his brief call-up, so I'm intrigued.

Bowen reminded me a bit of Harry Young, so that's encouraging.

Regarding draft...

I'd go power forward first round, unless WR finds out that goaltender is going before his second. In that situation, I'd gamble and take the goaltender.

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I'd go power forward first round, unless WR finds out that goaltender is going before his second. In that situation, I'd gamble and take the goaltender.
Just going off a hunch but I would not be suprised if WR took a gamble and took the goalie with the first pick, with the deep 94's that we have coming in he could be able to gamble a bit and get the clear cut best goalie in the draft. I dont think martin will fall to the next round, however the other goalie WR has coveted could be Jenkins, im sure ive heard he's commited over to the states program but he could be a gamble to lure him over here. I think hes projected somewhere in the 4th round.
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Just going off a hunch but I would not be suprised if WR took a gamble and took the goalie with the first pick, with the deep 94's that we have coming in he could be able to gamble a bit and get the clear cut best goalie in the draft. I dont think martin will fall to the next round, however the other goalie WR has coveted could be Jenkins, im sure ive heard he's commited over to the states program but he could be a gamble to lure him over here. I think hes projected somewhere in the 4th round.
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jenkins not committed yet

i would imagine spits will take him with the 86th pick in the 5th

unless they add a couple more picks

ie sudbury looking to deal one of their 2nd rd picks they have 3 of them

i could a deal where the spits deal 2nd rd pick 2014 acquired from peterborough

goalie john cullen,and brendan mccann to sudbury for 2nd rd pick 2011

mississauga's pick actually,a 7th rd pick and forward kyle shaw

the names involved would not be announced until june/11 just the picks

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Would that mean taking two goalies in the first five rounds?

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CFaub I like you but man if Rychel ends up dealing Carnevale, Robertson, Kuhnhackl and Campbell fans should be livid. Yes I admit fans have been spoiled and have an entitlement issue but dealing guys like that shouldn't make any fan happy regardless of "well it will make us a contender for 2014." When Rychel took over he in essence was dealing with a horrible roster that was put together as an attempt to win a couple rounds in the playoffs by the prior regime. Rychel's only valuable players were Guadagnolo and Weber and the team had no shot at being good. When you mention those 4 players to be dealt that's a very good group of players capable of making this team a possible contender for a division title.
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Would love to see those four stay but in the end the asset pool keeps shrinking and unless he has a major influx of high end talent this team does not have the same potential as the team that just made it to the West final. No doubt they would add to the potential and the team would be far more competitive than the line up we are likely to see but in the end how do they add for a run and what do they do with the wealth of talent they drafted last year waiting to get their shot?

Now if you could tell me that two or three of Johns, Schmaltz, Pietila, Czarnik and Peca were coming for sure then I would agree that since you are adding without subtracting then you definitely keep Campbell, Robertson, Carnevale and Kuhnhackl. It would make for a heck of a line up along with a couple of the kids being brought up.

Kuhnhackl/Khokhlachev/Czarnik
Pietila/Carnevale/Ryan
Rychel/Peca/Barber
Vail/Clarke/Czinder
Cortellessa
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95 prospect

Schmaltz/Ebert
Robertson/Johns
Posa/Duininck
Deeley
Bowens
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Campbell
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I know that includes all five reporting, and if there is anyone who could pull that off it is Rychel but reality is they are not likely reporting. As you start eliminating names I think the chances of this team making a lot of noise starts to go down dramatically, even with Carnevale, Robertson, Kuhnhackl and Campbell remaining, just too much inexperience coming in even though they are a solid group of kids they need to put their time in.

As for building towards 2014, I think Rychel is actually building towards 2013 and 2014. This group can have a similar impact as Nemisz/Henrique and the group that was drafted in Rychel's first draft. That group went all the way in their third year of eligibility, along with a few additions then repeated in their fourth. The key though was getting them playing time. This group will be in their third year of eligibility in 2013 and a few key additions in that year, or even through trades this year could have them close by 2013 with most of the team coming back in 2014.

I don't disagree with what you are saying but if they need to do a somewhat in depth rebuild then this would be the season to do it since they are a bit low on assets (draft picks) but deep in young talent.

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Would that mean taking two goalies in the first five rounds?
Taking that one step further wouldn't that be two relatively high end goalies in the first couple of rounds? I am assuming you are thinking Martin and Jenkins both or even Martin and another of the top three or four?


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With the draft coming up in a few days and myself not being the most knowledgeable when it comes to the draft, I was looking for some thoughts on some of the players available in the first few rounds and how they may or may not fit into Windsor's needs and plans going forward.

My feeling is Windsor is in need of some size and skill up front in the same package. I know Kassian wasn't the most favoured player the last little while but a big, physical power forward that can put up some points and drop the gloves seems to be what is missing from the prospect pool as far as the forwards go.

On the blue line, while we have Bowen coming in next season, a true physical, shutdown style of Dman is what this team was missing this season and to draft one this year would make sense if this year does become the rebuilding season that some think it might.

In goal I think almost everyone agrees that Windsor needs to get that true number one as a 16 year old that they seem to be missing out on every year. Someone they can bring in during a rebuild and develop right fom the start of his OHL career and have ready a couple of years out when they are ready to go for it again.

The following all come from LoneRanger over on RangerRush and I hope he doesn`t mind my "borrowing" from him. It was a well done preview and I appreciate the work he did in it. Thanks go out to him.

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Spencer Martin...6'1...175...Toronto JR Canadiens...50games...2.27 gaa...5 shutouts...a traditional butterfly goalie who is positionally very strong,rarely seems to be out of position,aggressive in the crease,likes to challenge shooters,good agility & lateral movement,good glove hand & uses his blocker effectively,very good puck handler,very calm and composed,exudes confidence,no glaring weakness....should be the 1st goalie selected,maybe 1st round.

Jordan DeKort...6'4...185...Markham Majors...42games...1.92 gaa...8 shutouts...really fills the net with his size,strong positionally and very good at challenging shooters and cutting down the angles,moves fairly well in the crease for a big goalie but could improve on his agility,has good rebound control,good glove & blocker,composed under pressure,his puck handling is decent but could use some work....should go fairly high,2nd or 3rd round.

Ian Jenkins...5'10...160...Detroit Belle Tire...17games...2.90 gaa....882 save%...1 shutout...his positioning,agility & lateral movement is excellent,a technically sound goalie who seems to always be square to the shooter,very little wasted movement,very patient & focused,lightning quick glove hand,good puck handling,communicates well with his d-men,does get caught high at times when in the butterfly....should go 3rd round but doubts of him reporting could scare teams.

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Charlie Pelnik...LD...6'3...185...Carolina Hurricanes....a great combination of size skill and grit,good team player who is fearless & is willing to stick up for his teammates,plays a solid defensive game with good positioning and gap control,likes the physical game,makes things miserable for opposing forwards,tough to play against in the corners & in front of his net,good skater for his size with quick acceleration & good mobility,makes good first pass clearing out of the zone,needs to work on his puck handling and can be undisciplined at times....drafted by Fargo of the USHL...committed to North Dakota....rated as a mid to late first rounder but will most likely drop.

Alex Smith...RD...6'...175...Detroit Honeybaked...38games...4g...8a...12pts...65pim...o ne of the more physical d-men available in this draft,loves to throw the big hit and tries to catch opponents with their head down,likes to stand opposing forwards up at his blueline,punishes the opposition in front of his net & when battling for loose pucks,can be too aggressive & undisciplined at times,good skater with good acceleration & mobility,shows some good offensive potential but needs to improve his puck handling,will jump into the rush but needs to make better decisions when too,takes good care of his own end first,plays his best when he's physical...drafted by Muskegon USHL....rated 2nd round.

Ian McCoshen...LD...6'2...195...Waterloo Blackhawks...42games...0g...6a...6pts...38pim...a big physical defensive d-man,plays an aggressive game,can be punishing down low and along the boards,likes to try throwing the big open ice hit but can be caught out of position doing so,strong positional play and gap control,has an active stick,makes good decisions with the puck,great passer and puck handling skills,good skater with good mobility,nice hard point shot,voted his teams most improved player,potential to be a solid physical shutdown d-man.

Ryan Hutchinson...RD...6'1...215...Chicago Young Americans...a rock solid physically strong d-man,strong down low and in the corners,keeps the front of his net clear,plays with a real mean streak and likes to throw punishing hits,very competitive,good positionally in his own end but needs to improve his gap control,needs to make quicker and better outlet passes,decent skater once he gets going but needs to work on his acceleration and pivoting,good low point shot and a good wrist shot,has the potential to be a punishing shutdown d-man....late 2nd round.

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David Perklin...LW...6'3...190...Toronto Marlboros...66games...19g...26a...45pts...83pim... Perklin has great size and a solid skill set,he has a high compete level and does alot of the little things right to help his team win,can be very physical,is strong on the forecheck and down low,finishes his checks,although he didn't put up big offensive numbers he does have good offensive skills,a strong shot with soft hands,excellent puck handler,skates well for his size but needs to work on his overall mobility,does need to improve his play in his own end,he has the potential to develop into a dominant power forward....first round

Brandon Robinson...LW...6'2...185...Toronto JR Canadiens...76games...49g...46a...95pts...110pim.. .a great combination of size and offensive skill,a true power forward with a ton of potential,great hands with a great shot,very good puck handler,has a powerful skating stride and is very difficult to contain once he gets going but he needs to improve his acceleration,uses his size to his advantage and does a good job protecting the puck,hard to remove from in front of the net,creates chaos for opposing d-men with his strong forecheck,hard to contain down low,plays with a real edge and can be downright nasty at times,punishing hitter,will need to improve his discipline and defensive play,some question his work ethic saying he doesn't show up every game...should be a 1st rounder.

Mitchell Dempsey...LW...6'3...205...Cambridge Hawks...55games...38g...34a...72pts...76pim...anot her big power forward with a good skill set,a decent skater for his size with good mobility but needs to improve his acceleration,can be an intimidating and impact player when he's hitting and forcing his way through traffic,near impossible for opposing d-men to control him on the forecheck or stop him from crashing the net,throws crunching hits,a nice shot and scores alot in the slot area,good puck handler,needs to improve his play in his own end and his positioning without the puck,needs to be a little more consistent but overall he should develop into a solid power forward...early 2nd round

Michael McCarron...RW...6'5...205...Detroit Honeybaked...38games...6g...12a...18pts...88pim... a huge winger who uses his size to his advantage,almost impossible to move from in front of the net,aggressive down low and along the boards,he is very strong and is a punishing hitter,a real competitor who battles hard every single shift,creates havoc in the offensive zone,has a very strong shot,needs to work on his defensive game and puck handling,a strong skater for his size but needs to improve his acceleration and mobility...has committed to Michigan State...rated 2nd round but some talk he could slip into the first round.

Hunter Smith...RW...6'6...200...Windsor JR Spitfires...49games...31g...21a...52pts...92pim... another huge winger with good raw potential,uses his size effectively especially along the boards,tough to contain down low,finishes his checks,could be a little more aggressive at times,shows good hands and makes good plays in the offensive zone,shows good defensive awareness,decent skater but needs to improve his first few steps and acceleration,he's the nephew of ex NHLer Brad Smith....late 2nd round

Nick Moutry...LW...6'1...185...York Simcoe Express...69games...43a...46a...89pts...46pim...a physical winger who is very strong down low and wins most puck battles in the corners,finishes his checks,not a dynamic type player but is good with the puck and sees the ice well,generates offence from down low and has a great shot,has potential to develop into a good power forward but will need to improve his skating specifically his acceleration...late 2nd round
I know these are not all the biggest names available in some cases but was looking at it from the perspective of hopefully seeing Rychel pick up another 2nd, a 3rd and a 4th round pick for the weekend. Hopefully, at least the way I see Windsor's needs in the coming years along with who they already have available to them there are a few nice possibilities with these players possibly being available to choose from.

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Brandon Robinson...LW or David Perklin...LW in the first round if available. Both remind me of Kassian and hopefully coming to Windsor as 16 year olds don't develop some of Zack's bad habits.

Mitchell Dempsey...LW or Michael McCarron...RW in the second round. Again, solid, physical players that can put up some points and also compliment some of the more finesse players already in the fold or some who maybe yet to come down the road.

Charlie Pelnik...LD or Ian McCoshen...LD if Windsor can pick up another second round pick a big, physical, shutdown Dman is what we were missing this season. With Ebert, Webermin, Posa and Duininck already here along with Bowen and Deeley likely coming up it goes a long ways towards solidifying Windsor's defensive game going forward.

Hunter Smith...RW or Nick Moutry...LW both are different style players but both, especially Smith have some decent size along with an ability to generate some offence but both also need some work. I guess depending on how things unfold at the draft my hope would be first Windsor gets themselves a third round pick and that one of these two would available at the time they would make that pick. Could be a reach to hope they drop but who knows what will actually play out at the draft.

Ian Jenkins his name has come up in the draft thread a few times as being someone that a team like Windsor may be able to get to report while at the same time not having to pick him up too early. Hopefully Windsor could get him in the fifth round as has been suggested by some but would it be worth it for Rychel to try to get a fourth round pick to pick him up with, if he is still there instead of taking the chance on waiting until the fith round?

Again, not being the most knowledgeable when it comes to the draft just picking out a few players that look interesting. I really have no idea if any of these players will be available in the various rounds when Windsor picks and Windsor of course would need to add picks to be able to get some of these players.

Comments, good and bad are appreciated since I would like to know what would be realistic when it comes to draft day.

Again thanks to LoneRanger over on RangerRush, here's the link if anyone has not seen what he wrote up.

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This will be the first draft in many years (probably 10?) that I haven't been around for. Can't wait to read what happens.

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This will be the first draft in many years (probably 10?) that I haven't been around for. Can't wait to read what happens.
Same here, I will not be able to follow along. I am hoping for a big surprise and the Spits draft Max Domi.

Also did anyone notice the trade today by Belleville and Plymouth.

Belleville got their 4th and a 5th back for two 5ths, a 8th, a 11th and a 15th I think. So how does that affect the value of 2nd and 3rds?

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No, no, no, I don't want Max Domi. Not because he's not talented. Clearly the kid is going to be a great player in this league. I just fear that if Windsor fans see "Domi" on the jersey and he doesn't fight, he'll be questioned left, right, and center.

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That's retarded. If Domi is available, we should take him without worrying about how our fans will treat him when he doesn't fight. Windsor fans will always find something to ***** about anyway, sort of like the Rychel's ice time debate and the Campbell goaltending situation. Take the kid, and worry about it later. I'm sure he's put up with crap already having that name on his jersey, and he's done fine so far. I doubt it matters though, no way he makes it to us.

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Congrats to Ryan Ellis, OHL player of the Year

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Congratulations indeed to Ellis.

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Congrats again Ryan! I see these awards again in his future except with them saying CHL infront of them!

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That's retarded. If Domi is available, we should take him without worrying about how our fans will treat him when he doesn't fight. Windsor fans will always find something to ***** about anyway, sort of like the Rychel's ice time debate and the Campbell goaltending situation. Take the kid, and worry about it later. I'm sure he's put up with crap already having that name on his jersey, and he's done fine so far. I doubt it matters though, no way he makes it to us.
Disagree all you want, but when someone says my opinion is "retarded", I'm just going to laugh at you

I want Max to do well. I want to see him flourish in the OHL. I know how Windsor fans are. Sorry, just one man's opinion.

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If its a lousy opinion, I'll cut it to cheese and you can laugh about it. We can take the best player available (in this scenario Domi) and deal with the crowd riding him, or we can take somebody else who's just as likely to take grief from the windsor crowd. See my point? If we're going to have players that take crap from the fans, they might as well be good ones. Besides, Max Domi has been dealing with it for a while I'm sure. He's better prepared to deal with it than somebody who doesn't have a recognizable name.

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If its a lousy opinion, I'll cut it to cheese and you can laugh about it. We can take the best player available (in this scenario Domi) and deal with the crowd riding him, or we can take somebody else who's just as likely to take grief from the windsor crowd. See my point? If we're going to have players that take crap from the fans, they might as well be good ones. Besides, Max Domi has been dealing with it for a while I'm sure. He's better prepared to deal with it than somebody who doesn't have a recognizable name.
Thats true more then any other year.

There have been some very poor displays of sportsmanship by this years parents. Some of the things said to a 15 year old kid by parents, disgraceful displays.

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If its a lousy opinion, I'll cut it to cheese and you can laugh about it. We can take the best player available (in this scenario Domi) and deal with the crowd riding him, or we can take somebody else who's just as likely to take grief from the windsor crowd. See my point? If we're going to have players that take crap from the fans, they might as well be good ones. Besides, Max Domi has been dealing with it for a while I'm sure. He's better prepared to deal with it than somebody who doesn't have a recognizable name.
Point taken on the preparation. I'm just looking out for the kid. The last thing I want is a kid coming in here with unrealistic expectations and the crowd getting on his case, leading him to get frustrated. If it affects a goaltender like Campbell, how's it going to affect a 95?

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Point taken on the preparation. I'm just looking out for the kid. The last thing I want is a kid coming in here with unrealistic expectations and the crowd getting on his case, leading him to get frustrated. If it affects a goaltender like Campbell, how's it going to affect a 95?
He would be fine. These kids realize that 95% of these so called fans chirping away at them do not even know half of what it is like or what it takes.

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WS.COM: With all that in mind, how is the team set up for picks on Saturday, after all the moves you made?

WR: Well, obviously, we're a little light. After two Memorial Cups and acquiring some players at the deadline, we're a little short. We have our own first. Kingston's second, from the Grubauer trade. We have Sarnia's fifth, from the Ron Soucie trade three years ago. After that, we're a little light. One in the 10th, one in the 13th, one in the 14th and one in the 15th. Seven picks in all. But we do have pick #30 in the second round, which is going to be a huge pick. And we're currently working on a few things, trying to get another second round pick, and maybe picks in other rounds. With the success of KoKo and Kuhnhackl, we have an import pick to trade as well. I think it's 37th overall.
It is great to hear that Rychel is going after another 2nd. That would be huge to have 3 picks inside the top 40.

Having the 37th import pick to move should be able to get the Spits a third rounder for the OHL draft?


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Thanks. I was looking for that.

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