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05-01-2011, 09:08 PM
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A few Brian Campbell ideas

To Chicago: Brad Boyes
To Buffalo: Brian Campbell

To Chicago: Milan Michalek
To Ottawa: Brian Campbell

To Chicago: Paul Stastny
To Colorado: Brian Campbell, 2011 1st

To Chicago: Michal Rozsival, Lee Stempniak, Paul Bissonette
To Phoenix: Brian Campbell, 2011 3rd


All trades can be tweaked with picks or proespects as needed.

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How about no... Campbell has negative value and won't get you a ridiculous return. Think more along the lines of Scott Gomez or Shawn Horcoff.

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To Chicago: Paul Stastny
To Colorado: Brian Campbell, 2011 1st
Sure, while we're at it you guys wouldn't mind sending us Kane for Brandon Yip right? We'll give you Hunwick since we're in a good mood.

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None of those will fly.

That Colorado one is especially off.

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These are all ridiculous proposals. The Phoenix and Colorado ones are especially off-course...

Brian Campbell won't get you anything. No one wants to have that contract within 20 miles of them.


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How about

Brian Campbell

for

Brad Boyes
Shaone Morrisonn

?

Sabres take on about 1 million in salary, which is affordable. It opens up one of their promising young D-men for inclusion in a trade for a center.

E: Damn that contract is long. Add something substantial.
E2: right VVV

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I can't see Buffalo bringing Campbell back for five years at that contract value. Not for "just" Campbell.

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Besides the fact that the Sens wouldn't want that ridiculous contract, they also have young guys like Rundblad and Cowen ready to step in and battle for a spot next year. I'm also sure management wouldn't want Foligno as their #1 LW'er.

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To Chicago: Brad Boyes
To Buffalo: Brian Campbell

To Chicago: Milan Michalek
To Ottawa: Brian Campbell

To Chicago: Paul Stastny
To Colorado: Brian Campbell, 2011 1st


To Chicago: Michal Rozsival, Lee Stempniak, Paul Bissonette
To Phoenix: Brian Campbell, 2011 3rd


All trades can be tweaked with picks or proespects as needed.
I think Chicago is overpaying there, Paul Stastny is just some regular 35 year old center.. and he earns a lot of money. Chicago should go for someone like Yip for Toews or Kane.

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Even if Campbell didn't have that enormous contract, Ottawa would have no use for him....the sens already have too many d-man next year: (Phillips,Karlsson,Gonchar,Lee,Cowen,Rundblad,Cark ner,Kuba,Hale,Weircoch) and not nearly enough top 6 depth to be dealing any of the forwards unless another top 6er would be coming back.


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How about no... Campbell has negative value and won't get you a ridiculous return. Think more along the lines of Scott Gomez or Shawn Horcoff.
A Campbell for Komisarek trade makes some sense to me....

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To Chicago: Milan Michalek
To Ottawa: Brian Campbell
We need forwards and have too many defensemen.

Besides, we could have had Campbell for free, but Murray backed out when Chicago added all those extra years on his contract. That contract is insane.

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I wouldn't even trade Horcoff for him. That's the definition of negative value.

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I wouldn't even trade Horcoff for him. That's the definition of negative value.
I am sure the GM of Edmonton would, yes the contract isn't the best, but he was the best defenseman Chicago had for a large majority of the year and would go a long ways towards solidifying the back-end. He is a dynamic player that can change the way Chicago plays because of the offense he brings with. I would think Chicago would laugh if this was proposed to them as they don't have to get rid of Campbell.

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The Colorado one would be alright if Paul Stastny weren't a good player.

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Buffalo wouldn't be able to get Campbell because they need to lock up Tyler Myers long-term soon. I don't think they'd want two defensemen making 6-7+ million cap hit long term.

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Is Campbell really that bad? Can he not even play a top 4 role anymore?


Also, what are some opinions on Gomez for Campbell?

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I am sure the GM of Edmonton would, yes the contract isn't the best, but he was the best defenseman Chicago had for a large majority of the year and would go a long ways towards solidifying the back-end. He is a dynamic player that can change the way Chicago plays because of the offense he brings with. I would think Chicago would laugh if this was proposed to them as they don't have to get rid of Campbell.
Only on HF does a quality player with a somewhat questionable contract like Campbell have negative trade value. I seem to remember many of these same arguments being tossed around just last year about Gomez and Ryan Smyth and BOTH of them were traded. Everyone was saying that their teams would have to PAY another team to take those contracts when the reality turned out to be that each returned a decent, if not spectacular, package in a trade. Just last year people on here were saying that we'd have to include JVR in any trade just to get another team to take Briere's contract off our hands and that's with us getting nothing of any real value in return. Seeing what Briere did in the playoffs last year and so far this year I think it's safe to say that MANY teams would love to have him and his "bloated contract" on their playoff team and be willing to give up something significant to aquire him.

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I wouldn't even trade Horcoff for him. That's the definition of negative value.
Personally I wouldn't be so quick to jump to that. Yes Campbell's contract is hideous and worse than Horcoff's, but Campbell is the better player and would bring an added element to Edmonton's attack. Also with Edmonton's paranoia of cap space, bringing on a contract like Campbell's, especially if the cap goes up another few mil before summer 2013, wouldn't be a massive issue.


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Whitney-Campbell
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Plus with there really being no one in the Edmonton system who plays a similar game to Campbell's, he's not likely to be usurped and thus the team can retain some value from him.

Chicago on the other hand gets a player with less term and smaller cap hit, and gives them the depth to move Sharp to wing permanently. Also a group of centres of Toews, Horcoff, Bolland is going to be a tough one for teams to match up against, as all three can step up into the shutdown role.



So would there be any interest in Chicago for a trade with the base of Horcoff for Campbell?

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Is Campbell really that bad? Can he not even play a top 4 role anymore?


Also, what are some opinions on Gomez for Campbell?
Campbell is still a solid top 4 offensive defenseman who isn't a liability in his own zone, and he's still a great skater. He's just making too much money for too long of a term. Lots of good players get crucified on this forum for having a cap hit a couple million dollars too high.

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Is Campbell really that bad? Can he not even play a top 4 role anymore?


Also, what are some opinions on Gomez for Campbell?
no, he is not that bad. Hawks like him and would miss him. Only Problem is the 2 million he is overpaid.


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PHX and COL wouldn't be on his NTC list where he can name 8 teams he accepts a trade to
OTT doesn't need a PMD

BUF could be possible but not for Boyes. Think about Hecht

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If Buffalo wasn't willing to pay $7 million/year to keep Brian Campbell when he was at the peak of his game, why on earth would they do it now?

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Is Campbell really that bad? Can he not even play a top 4 role anymore?


Also, what are some opinions on Gomez for Campbell?
He had the 10th best +/- in the NHL and the best on the Hawks with a +28 this year. He's not bad by any stretch. He is a top 2 defensemen on most teams and the #3 on the Hawks. His game has adapated to a more defensive role over the last couple years with the Hawks, due to Duncan Keith taking over as the team's go to PMD. So his point totals have been way down, while his overall play has remained about the same.

As for Gomez...wow that one is interesting. He has two less years remaining than Campbell does, but his game has deteriorated to a point of being nearly useless, unlike Campbell. Montreal would probably have to add some nice prospects or picks to get the Hawks to consider it. I could see the Hawks possibly doing it for the right package. Does Gomez have a NMC or NTC? If not I could see them potentially burying him after next season when Huet's contract is over.

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If Buffalo wasn't willing to pay $7 million/year to keep Brian Campbell when he was at the peak of his game, why on earth would they do it now?
Buffalo has a new owner that is actually willing to spend whatever it takes. I'm not saying they would be interested, but financially things have changed there.

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Buffalo has a new owner that is actually willing to spend whatever it takes. I'm not saying they would be interested, but financially things have changed there.
And why would any team commit to a cap hit of $7+Mil not knowing what will happen when the league needs to renegotiate a new CBA in a couple of years?

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