Proposal: Phi -- Pit

[wej20]

Originally Posted by SolidSnakeUS

If it was with the original proposal, after the cap goes up, Pens have just under 4.5M to get 4 more forwards signed (they have two goalies and 7 d-men signed). Kennedy and Jeffrey are RFA and may get a bit more. I mean, I'd go for Versteeg + pick for Tangradi, but it all goes now upon Pens and how they would deal with the cap.

They could probably fit Versteeg provided the cap goes up, all of the guys they need to re-sign are cheap apart from Kennedy.

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

Originally Posted by SolidSnakeUS

You do realize that Vokoun will be 35 on July 2nd? I highly doubt he will get more than 5M. And considering his age, we'd probably only sign him for 2 years, right at the point where Bob can take over when he's gone. Vokoun I think can mentor Bob just as well as Bryz. In your opinion, for someone that is turning 35, will still get his 5.7M that he had in Florida? Even Halak, who is in his mid 20s signed for less than 4M. Price, who will be an RFA in the 2012-2013 season, is current taking an under 3M contract and will probably re-sign for about 5M. Even Edmonton knew better not to spend 4M or more on a goalie in Bulin. ****, even MAF is 5M, and he's 26. Thomas is at 5M, but he is currently a better goalie than Vokoun and older. Hiller is 29 and is getting 4.5M. We're in an era where spending more than 5 million is getting rarer. Vokoun is cheaper for two reasons, he would only be around for a couple of years because of his age, and because of his age, he'd probably be cheaper than Bryz, who is 4+ years younger than him.

Hope I got the point across .

You said 3.5M - 5M so I'm not sure what the issue is, unless you think Vokoun will make less then 3.5M, which he won't. I could def see a team offering him 4M+, which ATM would price him out of Philly.

[Jaded-Fan]

The original proposal is fair enough on its surface given the cap ramifications and that Tangradi has yet to prove anything. Maybe. The Pens likely are better off using the cap hit to sign someone else and let Tangradi either step up or season another year. There is a reason Philly fans picked Versteeg to jettison, and his contract is hardly any bargain. We have other 20 goal scorers who make a lot less. And the Pens as is are fairly loaded going into next year and can afford (about $3.5 million if the cap goes up as expected) to add another qualiity wing without trading anyone. But most of all, why are the Pens helping the Flyers get into position to sign a goalie? There is not a team the players or fans hate more, it is not a trade that at least the Pens make in my opinion.

[Liferleafer]

Originally Posted by thadd

Not that the valuable is absolutely horrible... but I don't see why Philly makes this trade.

Really....have you seen Versteeg??? No...wait....no one has all playoffs.

[Mansfield]

Versteeg is not a first liner.

[orange is better]

Originally Posted by Ragamuffin Gunner

Because they have ~59M already locked up next ywar and have to re-sign/replace:
Zherdev
Leino
Boucher
Boynton
O'Donnell
Carcillo
Nodl
Powe


I'm sure they'll let a few walk but that's still a fair amount of players to sign, especially if they want to get a goalie who can stop a puck.

yes because we must have 27 contracts on the roster... :

all we need to resign is Leino, Nodl, Powe, and either a replacement for O'Donnell, or promote someone like Gustafsson.
Nodl, Powe and Carcillo are all still RFAs

Boucher, Zherdev and Boynton won't be resigned.

[Pelican Peach Pen]

I'm trying to figure out why Pittsburgh would give up a possible exact fit for our offense for the Versteeg we just saw in the playoffs, not even taking into account that it would HELP Philadelphia?

[Mister Ed]

Value-wise this is probably a favorable deal for Pittsburgh but I don't like it. Tangradi isn't a player we should be moving and Versteeg isn't the kind of guy I would want to bring in anyhow. Dude is being passed around like a hot potato, which can only be an indication that something about him and/or his game is off. Plus I don't think handing over a physical monster like Tangradi to a divisional rival is good business, Pens fans just need to be more patient with him.

If Chicago wants Versteeg back, I think a Versteeg for Brouwer trade makes sense.