I thought I'd take up Blind Gardien's offer on starting this season's thread since the season really does start tomorrow for the OHL teams. It's easier to put the draft info in a new thread. I will add more to this later but who is London drafting tomorrow?
I was just doing some reading... Will Butcher might be a good look for the 3rd or 4th round pick.. not sure where he's slated to go.
Wish list
Will Butcher(Offensive D), Connor Chatham(RW), Dawson Cook(LW), Nicholas Halagian(LW), Nick Moutry(LW), Alexander Smith (Offensive D), Wilson Vershay (Defensive D), Micheal McCarron(RW).
Ian Jenkins is a early round goalie but with this much talent and size left on the board you have to go that direction.. They're better off with a free agent tender then this at the moment.
and we take
5-10 165lbs Jacob Jammes... highly skilled forward.
Ian Jenkins is a early round goalie but with this much talent and size left on the board you have to go that direction.. They're better off with a free agent tender then this at the moment.
and we take
5-10 165lbs Jacob Jammes... highly skilled forward.
I defend the Hunters enough but you simply can't win championships without some big players. Whatever, the only big players they ever get are the lazy ones who play afraid and are utterly useless.
Manked, what can you say about Jammes?
Last edited by playthetrap*: 05-07-2011 at 12:03 PM.
I defend the Hunters enough but you simply can't win championships without some big players. Whatever, the only big players they ever get are the lazy ones who play afraid and are utterly useless.
Manked, what can you say about Jammes?
Very shifty, very skilled. I've seen him play about 8-10 times, and he was definitely the second best player in Ottawa after Baptiste.
I haven't seen these kids play but it sounds like the Knights did real well with their first 3 picks. I've read some nice reports on Jenkins, but has anyone seen him play? Lack of size is concerning for the future years, especially after this past playoff when another bigger player knocked out one of London's smaller players. When will they learn?
London picked up the enforcer in the 13th round Anthony Louis 5-6 130lbs.
Really excited about Horvat, looking forward to seeing Jenkins hopefully in a couple of weeks along with Jammes... but 1 maybe 2 (Horvat) kids over 200 pounds and 3 maybe 4(Horvat) at 6' or better is disappointing considering the size available with skill and speed on top of that...I'll never understand I guess.
Doing some more reading today - it sounds like the Knights could have a pretty good pick in Marselis Subban. I see 4 players from yesterday's draft who have a good chance at making the roster this season: Horvat, Jenkins, Jammes, and Subban. I don't know much about the other picks. Players from last year's team that could see their roster spot be stolen from them: Elser, Fox, Tierney, and both Donnays. When is mini camp?
Doing some more reading today - it sounds like the Knights could have a pretty good pick in Marselis Subban. I see 4 players from yesterday's draft who have a good chance at making the roster this season: Horvat, Jenkins, Jammes, and Subban. I don't know much about the other picks. Players from last year's team that could see their roster spot be stolen from them: Elser, Fox, Tierney, and both Donnays. When is mini camp?
i dont see the knights giving up on fox or the donnays
as well tierney improved alot at the end of last season
i elser in trouble though
dane fox and the older donnay are pretty tough and that is one thing in short
supply with the london lineup
the draft did not address their issue with size
against teams like windsor who added big,skilled guys like maletta and hunter
smith,to go alomg with bilke and czinder the knights will get crushed
i dont see the knights giving up on fox or the donnays
as well tierney improved alot at the end of last season
i elser in trouble though
dane fox and the older donnay are pretty tough and that is one thing in short
supply with the london lineup
the draft did not address their issue with size
against teams like windsor who added big,skilled guys like maletta and hunter
smith,to go alomg with bilke and czinder the knights will get crushed
Don't need to tell us about size... 99% of the Knights fans wanted size... wanted Smith because he was available didn't take him. Pretty embarassing when 1 kid you draft is listed as heavier then 200 pounds.
When you get the crap pounded into you by the Spits and Whalers all year you'd come to figure that it would be somewhat important. If they can find some free agent size fine but if you draft you don't have to give anything up later for it. Size at the deadline is more costly then size as a draft pick.
Jenkins will report and he's expecting to play 10-15 games.
Fox is on a short leash after the end of season suspension, the Hunters have no patiences with D-men plus we have an abundance of them going into this year. Cody Donnay proved his worth as a utility player/PK specialist. Elser added something to his game fighting and playing tougher. Tierney needs to grow some get much stronger and keep up with the pace... very slight improvement from beginning to end last year.
Wouldnt surprise me in any 94 (minus Ruperts) got off to a slow start threw October that they would be dealt.
Horvat dad has said he wants his son to play and didn't want London to take him because of the way Dale treats 16 year olds. This could be an interesting situation to watch this year.
I'm not saying they'd give up on those guys, but they could definitely see less ice time if they're outplayed by younger players. Trading any 94 player would be completely backwards even if they have slow starts. I think they probably will have up and down seasons now that they know that they're the future - but you don't just give up on them part way through. I am a little disappointed that they're constantly putting out small teams, but from what I read, Hunter Smith could be either a hit or a miss while Jammes seems like a safer pick. I've read that Jammes models his game after Mike Cammalleri, so I'll take the skill over the size to start. Size was not the biggest problem this year, it was the breakout and how fast they could make decisions with the puck.
So in short, yes I'm concerned about the size of the forwards for the future, but I'm pretty damn happy about the young skill they have accumulated these last two drafts.
Here is my depth chart for 2011-12:
Forward:
Vladislav Namestnikov
Jared Knight
Seth Griffith
Colin Martin
Ryan Rupert
Matt Rupert
Andreas Athanasiou
Dane Fox
Cody Donnay
Chris Tierney
Brett Welychka
Danny Elser
Newcomers/Possibilities: Bo Horvat, Jacob Jammes, Kyle Platzer, Corey Pawley
Defence:
Jarred Tinordi
Scott Harrington
Reid McNeill
Tommy Hughes
Jake Worrad
Mike Moffat
Kevin Raine
Troy Donnay
Possible Newcomers: Miles Liberati, Marselis Subban
Goalies:
Michael Houser
Ian Jenkins
Darien Ekblad/Conner McKinnon
Like I said before, it will be interesting to see if the 95s can earn their way onto the roster, there is a lot of young talent here, it will just take some more time for them to put it all together. Anyone know the status of Americans such as Liberati and Trevor Hamilton?
It's just a feeling for me that the Hunters may lose patience with some players... Elser and Tierney have to get off to good starts this year... espeically Elser considering he's 18. IF the 95's step in and out play some of the 94's.... drama will ensue quickly. AA as much as I like him has to score early and often. Horvat can step in and play, played well in Jr B and a 15 year old.
Jammes I can see being signed and given the same treatment as Tierney and Elser last year alternating games... until he shows he can play.
Our D will need a haircut I believe... Alot comes down to Tinordi and whether he'll be back. Plus we need offense and someone to run the PP.... that will help the forwards out and make things tougher instead of the up and out or off the glass.
95's that will see playing time... Jenkins, Subban, Jammes, Horvat and Vuic.
So rumour has it Kingston will trade Domi to London if they can't get him to Kingston. What do you think it will cost London to get him, if it is true.
It's just a feeling for me that the Hunters may lose patience with some players... Elser and Tierney have to get off to good starts this year... espeically Elser considering he's 18. IF the 95's step in and out play some of the 94's.... drama will ensue quickly. AA as much as I like him has to score early and often. Horvat can step in and play, played well in Jr B and a 15 year old.
Jammes I can see being signed and given the same treatment as Tierney and Elser last year alternating games... until he shows he can play.
Our D will need a haircut I believe... Alot comes down to Tinordi and whether he'll be back. Plus we need offense and someone to run the PP.... that will help the forwards out and make things tougher instead of the up and out or off the glass.
95's that will see playing time... Jenkins, Subban, Jammes, Horvat and Vuic.
I can only speak about Jammes and Elie because I have seen them play a lot this year in the Ottawa region. The last time I saw them play was at the U-17 tryouts held in Ottawa and they both made it to Thunder Bay. On another HF board, they even said that Elie is the only one from our region who might have a shot at making that U-17 team.
They are different players. Jammes is more finess, goal scorer (from what I heard in Ottawa, he wanted to go the NCAA route). Elie (who for some reason dropped to 5th round???) is always, always the hardest worker on the ice, can beat anyone down low and is hockey IQ is great. If your team needs the type of player Dale Hunter was in the NHL, you guys might fall in love with Elie. He already plays the OHL game while it might take Jammes a little longer because he is more finess. Time will tell I guess, but you can't go wrong with those 2 kids, that's for sure. They will have some real fun making those big decisions at training camp!!!
So rumour has it Kingston will trade Domi to London if they can't get him to Kingston. What do you think it will cost London to get him, if it is true.
We've got 3 of Missy's second round picks by the time Max turns 25 you'll be able to use them...
I can only speak about Jammes and Elie because I have seen them play a lot this year in the Ottawa region. The last time I saw them play was at the U-17 tryouts held in Ottawa and they both made it to Thunder Bay. On another HF board, they even said that Elie is the only one from our region who might have a shot at making that U-17 team.
They are different players. Jammes is more finess, goal scorer (from what I heard in Ottawa, he wanted to go the NCAA route). Elie (who for some reason dropped to 5th round???) is always, always the hardest worker on the ice, can beat anyone down low and is hockey IQ is great. If your team needs the type of player Dale Hunter was in the NHL, you guys might fall in love with Elie. He already plays the OHL game while it might take Jammes a little longer because he is more finess. Time will tell I guess, but you can't go wrong with those 2 kids, that's for sure. They will have some real fun making those big decisions at training camp!!!
FYI, I have no connections to anyone in this draft but I have to agree with you, I think Elie taken at the 5th round was a steal. I saw him in two tournaments and in the Ottawa region. I had him ranked between 2nd & 3rd round because I love his style of play. It was funny when you said he would resemble his game to Dale Hunter style play, which is not that far off the truth. Anyway, London did a great job at the draft. Very underrated player and might make a surprise at training camp.
Jammes, I would agree with you too, he will bring offence to the knights. When this kids steps on the ice, he thinks only of scoring goals and that’s what he loves to do. He has quick hands and can skate in high tempo. I hope his commitment to NCAA is rumour because it would be a wasteful pick for the Knights.
Horvat, a great player, would be a top 3 pick if he was 6’2 IMO. He’s very deserving for his accomplishment because he worked hard for them.
A source has told TPS that a deal is close to being done that would see Max Domi dealt from Kingston to the London Knights of the OHL.
The Frontenacs took Domi 8th overall last Saturday in the OHL priority draft, despite the fact the Domi camp (former NHLer Tie) had warned teams he was likely heading the NCAA route, specifically Michigan. Despite the fact there is a major Leaf connection in Kingston with Doug Gilmour as G.M. and Todd Gill has Head Coach it wasn't enough to sway the younger Domi to the Frontenacs.
But what about London?
The Knights own 3 second round picks in 2012 and 2 second round picks in 2013 and we've been told those picks are in play. Would a move from Kingston to London be enough to convince Domi to play in the OHL or would he stay true to his word and play in the USHL this year with Indiana before going to college?
I find it hard to believe that London G.M. Mark Hunter would give up valuable second round picks without knowing that Domi had committed to the Kinghts.
Interesting development.. Not surprised from my end if it does happen. There is a window in September Max can be dealt for picks...
