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05-08-2011, 10:58 PM
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Now that they are in this situation. What would you tell your team going into game 6 to possibly end it in Detroit?:
"See you next season!!"

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Now that they are in this situation. What would you tell your team going into game 6 to possibly end it in Detroit?:
Repeat what you did in the first 40 minutes and don't take your foot off the gas. Detroit will be pressing and desperate, and you have to match their compete level.

Marleau get your *** in gear and stop being a liability on the ice. If you don't score that's fine, but play some damn defense and skate harder.

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Todd has said this team plays better when they are uncomfortable. The Sharks played a good game in my opinion for much of this game. But they never played desperate. When this team starts playing like a cornered animal, we'll see what happens.

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I don't consider invisible games piss poor. Those happen frequently and he was neither good nor bad. The fact of the matter is that one guy doesn't win or lose the team a game or a series. It wasn't just Marleau who let off the gas after Couture scored. It wasn't just Marleau that got scrambled in their own zone when Detroit put on the pressure.

I'm not going to look at points as a determining factor for sucking or not. There are more to winning playoff games than points and Marleau has contributed on the defensive side of it a lot more than people are willing to give him credit for because he's not putting up enough points for people's liking.
Marleau has not been defensively strong though. I supported him through the thick and thin, but this series especially, he's just not doing it. He's making blind passes towards the opposition, he's coasting through the defensive zone, he's even losing board battles to clearly injured players despite having a better position. His play this series is just pathetic.

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Now that they are in this situation. What would you tell your team going into game 6 to possibly end it in Detroit?:
"I promise to call a timeout when you guys are gassed. I will not send the line that just scored out again immediately. You guys did your job... time to send out a line that hasn't played in 20 minutes."

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Now that they are in this situation. What would you tell your team going into game 6 to possibly end it in Detroit?:
You guys are almost in the position to focus on your true passion ... golf.

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[QUOTE=Chubbs;32941883]Repeat what you did in the first 40 minutes and don't take your foot off the gas. Detroit will be pressing and desperate, and you have to match their compete level.


Not to be dumb but shouldnt they have known that tonight????

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The only difference between tonight and 2007 was that an injured Pavel Datsyuk made him look stupid instead of a lazy Robert Lang. Exactly when is this defensive effort going to pick up? 2007 his mistake turned a 3-1 series into a 2-2 series and Detroit won the next two, first at home and then in San Jose. Looks like he just did the same damn thing.
Except that wasn't Marleau's mistake in 2007. That was Kyle McLaren's mistake. Only people have this very high expectation of Marleau that when things go badly, their attention first goes his way rather than actually looking at the tape and seeing who is at fault.

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This. Tonight wasn't his first poor game. Tonight was his first absolutely horrible game. He's been coasting, not backchecking, and not blocking shots for the majority of the post-season. Just this game, his mistakes finally caught up to him and now even the Marleau supporters can't say anything.
And I can't understand why Todd had him on the ice closing out the game. Not the right time to 'hope' he comes around.

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Not to be dumb but shouldnt they have known that tonight????
Obviously not.

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Repeat what you did in the first 40 minutes and don't take your foot off the gas. Detroit will be pressing and desperate, and you have to match their compete level.


Not to be dumb but shouldnt they have known that tonight????
i would think they knew at least

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Marleau has not been defensively strong though. I supported him through the thick and thin, but this series especially, he's just not doing it. He's making blind passes towards the opposition, he's coasting through the defensive zone, he's even losing board battles to clearly injured players despite having a better position. His play this series is just pathetic.
He hasn't played as well as he can play but outside of this game, he hasn't been pathetic. He's been average to good defensively depending on the game. Suffice it to say, I feel he hasn't been nearly as bad as people here want to believe. Suffice it to say, he hasn't been nearly good enough as well. There's a lot of hyperbole going on right now and understandably so.

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I said it earlier but I'll say it again. I really don't think the Sharks took their foot off the gas in the third, at least not until they were down. It's hard to find fault in the team when they're trying as hard as they look. That's why it's so easy to pin the blame on Marleau, because he's obviously the one passenger on the team and cost them on the two Detroit goals that weren't broken plays.

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Now that they are in this situation. What would you tell your team going into game 6 to possibly end it in Detroit?:
Great moments are born from great opportunity.

And that's what you have here tonight, boys.

That's what you've earned here, by winning games 1 through 3.

One game.

If we played 'em seven more times, they might win four.

But not this game. Not tonight.

Tonight, we skate with 'em.

Tonight, we stay with 'em, and we shut them down because we can!

Tonight, we are the greatest hockey team in the world.

You were born to be hockey players -- every one of ya.

And you were meant to be here tonight.

This is your time.

Their time -- is done. It's over.

I'm sick and tired of hearin' about what a great hockey team the Red Wings have.

Screw 'em!

This is your time!!

Now go out there and take it!

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He hasn't played as well as he can play but outside of this game, he hasn't been pathetic. He's been average to good defensively depending on the game. Suffice it to say, I feel he hasn't been nearly as bad as people here want to believe. Suffice it to say, he hasn't been nearly good enough as well. There's a lot of hyperbole going on right now and understandably so.
Well, if you're the only one not believing it, is it really a hyperbole or just an understated opinion on your part?

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Great moments are born from great opportunity.

And that's what you have here tonight, boys.

That's what you've earned here, tonight.

One game.

If we played 'em seven more times, they might win four.

But not this game. Not tonight.

Tonight, we skate with 'em.

Tonight, we stay with 'em, and we shut them down because we can!

Tonight, we are the greatest hockey team in the world.

You were born to be hockey players -- every one of ya.

And you were meant to be here tonight.

This is your time.

Their time -- is done. It's over.

I'm sick and tired of hearin' about what a great hockey team the Red Wings have.

Screw 'em!

This is your time!!

Now go out there and take it!
Bravo!!!!!!

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Now that they are in this situation. What would you tell your team going into game 6 to possibly end it in Detroit?:
Every single person in the media, every fan in the stands, every fan watching on tv at home, and every guy in Red on the opposing bench, thinks this is the same old Sharks team that suffers a mental breakdown and lets the wheels fall right off.

You have two choices. Prove them all right and lay down like you've done for the last half a decade, or prove them wrong, and continue to be the resilient and uphill fighting team you've been for the majority of the season, taking it to the Wings in their house, and moving onto the West Finals.

The choice is yours.

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Great moments are born from great opportunity.

And that's what you have here tonight, boys.

That's what you've earned here, by winning games 1 through 3.

One game.

If we played 'em seven more times, they might win four.

But not this game. Not tonight.

Tonight, we skate with 'em.

Tonight, we stay with 'em, and we shut them down because we can!

Tonight, we are the greatest hockey team in the world.

You were born to be hockey players -- every one of ya.

And you were meant to be here tonight.

This is your time.

Their time -- is done. It's over.

I'm sick and tired of hearin' about what a great hockey team the Red Wings have.

Screw 'em!

This is your time!!

Now go out there and take it!
a canadian channeling herb brooks, eh?

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Except that wasn't Marleau's mistake in 2007. That was Kyle McLaren's mistake. Only people have this very high expectation of Marleau that when things go badly, their attention first goes his way rather than actually looking at the tape and seeing who is at fault.
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Well, if you're the only one not believing it, is it really a hyperbole or just an understated opinion on your part?
Yeah, it is when people are talking about benching him.

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Detroit are banged up, the Sharks will be furious and focused. No way does this broken team win the next 2. Opposing fans would love to play the wounded animal known as the Detroit Red Wings but it isn't happening. Go Sharks.

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He hasn't played as well as he can play but outside of this game, he hasn't been pathetic. He's been average to good defensively depending on the game. Suffice it to say, I feel he hasn't been nearly as bad as people here want to believe. Suffice it to say, he hasn't been nearly good enough as well. There's a lot of hyperbole going on right now and understandably so.
And that is where I'd have to disagree with you. Marleau has not been good defensively. He's been anywhere from average to terrible, but not good. He was noticeably terrible today.

If you want to see good defensive play, look at Couture and Thornton. Look at their effort on the backcheck and their commitment to helping out the defense. I was honestly surprised by their footspeed today, and they're not even known as fast skaters. Marleau is the fastest skater on the team yet he coasts.

This isn't even a knock on his offensive play. I could comment on his lack of board determination and how he gets beaten off the puck by guys half his size or with major injuries. I could talk about how he has no patience with the puck (much like Thornton early in the Kings series) and will often dump the puck to another player despite the coverage. I could even mention how he's gripping the stick too hard and not putting in goals even stone-hands Mitchell could score.

But really these points are not important. Like I said a few times already, it doesn't matter if he scores as long as he's not a liability defensively. Unfortunately he is.

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He hasn't played as well as he can play but outside of this game, he hasn't been pathetic. He's been average to good defensively depending on the game. Suffice it to say, I feel he hasn't been nearly as bad as people here want to believe. Suffice it to say, he hasn't been nearly good enough as well. There's a lot of hyperbole going on right now and understandably so.
Average to good on a third line that is on a team not as good as the Sharks.

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