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05-23-2011, 04:08 AM
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Or perhaps you don't see it.
I guess that's a possibility. And unlikely one, but a possibility none the less.

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It's terrible.
No, its not. It's obviously not good to wish someone to get injured but he is hurting our chance to win the cup, Ballard is obviously the better player so it doesn't a wall-e to find out that Ballard needs to play ahead of Rome. It's too bad that the coaching staff didnt see that and it takes an injury to force AV to dress a superior player.

So I wish we can fire him even if we win the cup, we are winning inspite of him, not because of him. Not to mention that he basically wouldn't play Grabner and now that he proved that he can be a 30 goals scorer in NYI, great talent assessment, AV!

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No, its not. It's obviously not good to wish someone to get injured but he is hurting our chance to win the cup, Ballard is obviously the better player so it doesn't a wall-e to find out that Ballard needs to play ahead of Rome. It's too bad that the coaching staff didnt see that and it takes an injury to force AV to dress a superior player.

So I wish we can fire him even if we win the cup, we are winning inspite of him, not because of him. Not to mention that he basically wouldn't play Grabner and now that he proved that he can be a 30 goals scorer in NYI, great talent assessment, AV!
Grabner got injured.

edit: also, when you're 5 wins away from a cup, how exactly is aaron rome hurting our chances to win a cup? remember, we're not the team down 3-1.

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05-23-2011, 01:02 PM
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kesler is probably playing "hurt" after a fantastic round 2.
Wouldn't be surprised - Kesler has been the primary target of Thornton's, Murray's and Clowe's hits and abuse all series.

That's where more enforcers on the Canucks would be helpful - Torres while he rarely fights, enforces with his checks and did so in game 4 by putting Thornton out of commission. If Torres signs elsewhere in the off-season, he'll be difficult to replace in that role.

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05-23-2011, 01:10 PM
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I dont see how it is so different from Sedins playing hurt in round 2, there is no excuse for Kesler to only score 2 points in 4 games, he needs to step it up like the Sedins did. However, there is still no doubt that Kesler so far is more consistent than the Sedins.
Kesler is way more inconsistent offensively than the twins...

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Obviously no concrete news on the progress of Ehrhoff or Rome, but apparently Ehrhoff was skating on his own this morning before the team practiced. That's got to be a good sign -- perhaps not for having him play in Game 5, but it certainly seems like he should be ready sooner rather than later.

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#Canucks Christian Ehrhoff skating on his own this morning at Rogers Arena before a scheduled 11:00am practice.

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Obviously no concrete news on the progress of Ehrhoff or Rome, but apparently Ehrhoff was skating on his own this morning before the team practiced. That's got to be a good sign -- perhaps not for having him play in Game 5, but it certainly seems like he should be ready sooner rather than later.

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#Canucks Christian Ehrhoff skating on his own this morning at Rogers Arena before a scheduled 11:00am practice.
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Obviously no concrete news on the progress of Ehrhoff or Rome, but apparently Ehrhoff was skating on his own this morning before the team practiced. That's got to be a good sign -- perhaps not for having him play in Game 5, but it certainly seems like he should be ready sooner rather than later.

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#Canucks Christian Ehrhoff skating on his own this morning at Rogers Arena before a scheduled 11:00am practice.
more encouraging is that he appears to be taking shots in that picture.

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No, its not. It's obviously not good to wish someone to get injured but he is hurting our chance to win the cup, Ballard is obviously the better player so it doesn't a wall-e to find out that Ballard needs to play ahead of Rome. It's too bad that the coaching staff didnt see that and it takes an injury to force AV to dress a superior player.

So I wish we can fire him even if we win the cup, we are winning inspite of him, not because of him. Not to mention that he basically wouldn't play Grabner and now that he proved that he can be a 30 goals scorer in NYI, great talent assessment, AV!
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05-23-2011, 02:11 PM
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Kesler is way more inconsistent offensively than the twins...
I think he has to defensively be more aware this series, and lets be real his line mates ride his coat tails and cant really create chances with out him. I think he is healthy as he was all playoffs.

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Obviously no concrete news on the progress of Ehrhoff or Rome, but apparently Ehrhoff was skating on his own this morning before the team practiced. That's got to be a good sign -- perhaps not for having him play in Game 5, but it certainly seems like he should be ready sooner rather than later.

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#Canucks Christian Ehrhoff skating on his own this morning at Rogers Arena before a scheduled 11:00am practice.

Good, we need him back even if it means Ballard has to sit and Rome is back in.

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05-23-2011, 02:14 PM
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Jim Jamieson of the Province on Ehrhoff:

#Canucks practice very optional, but Ehrhoff skating with group, looks fine.
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05-23-2011, 03:03 PM
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No, its not. It's obviously not good to wish someone to get injured but he is hurting our chance to win the cup, Ballard is obviously the better player so it doesn't a wall-e to find out that Ballard needs to play ahead of Rome. It's too bad that the coaching staff didnt see that and it takes an injury to force AV to dress a superior player.

So I wish we can fire him even if we win the cup, we are winning inspite of him, not because of him. Not to mention that he basically wouldn't play Grabner and now that he proved that he can be a 30 goals scorer in NYI, great talent assessment, AV!
Try putting yourself into Rome's shoes. You can hope that AV/Bowness finally wakes up, and wishing for anyone to suffer a serious injury is just lame.

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Anyone know the latest on Jumbo Joe? Everyone's speculating ribs.

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Anyone know the latest on Jumbo Joe? Everyone's speculating ribs.
I thought it was ribs initially but when I watched replays of his last shift it really looked a lot like he was having difficulty with his shoulder. Either way, I expect he will play but I believe his effectiveness will be seriously reduced. And that is good news for us because this is the second best team in the league and the sooner we can close this out the better. The Sharks are wounded but still very dangerous.

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05-23-2011, 03:29 PM
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I thought it was ribs initially but when I watched replays of his last shift it really looked a lot like he was having difficulty with his shoulder. Either way, I expect he will play but I believe his effectiveness will be seriously reduced. And that is good news for us because this is the second best team in the league and the sooner we can close this out the better. The Sharks are wounded but still very dangerous.
Mclellan has already come out and said that he will play in Game 5. Barring any setbacks or of that is just total bs from the Sharks, Jumbo Joe will play tomorrow.

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I dont see how it is so different from Sedins playing hurt in round 2, there is no excuse for Kesler to only score 2 points in 4 games, he needs to step it up like the Sedins did. However, there is still no doubt that Kesler so far is more consistent than the Sedins.
This is a team game, some players struggle, some others step up. Whether those struggles are caused by injuries, different roles from the coaching staff, different match ups against varying qualities of defense or offense, as long as their struggles can't be attributed to a lack of effort then why get frustrated?

Kesler is working hard defensively and he scored the goal that started San Jose's collapse in the biggest game the Canucks have played in 17 years.

And so far, statistically at least there's no way someone could make the argument that Kesler is more consistent than the Sedins, regular season or playoffs. Look at the numbers yourself.

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05-23-2011, 04:39 PM
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Kesler is way more inconsistent offensively than the twins...
yeah... but offensively consistency is much different than consistency.

Kesler you can pretty much count on to have the same high level of effort every game. He'll skate hard and finish a couple checks. Sometimes the offensive side of his game clicks sometimes it doesn't.

Sedin's are much more inconsistent. Sometimes they'll have a dominating game, then they'll have an average game, then on every once in a while a bad game. Thing with the Sedin's is even on "average" games by their standards they can still easily put up 2 points each.

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05-23-2011, 05:02 PM
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Ben Kuzma speculates the Ehrhoff injury was a stinger. Seems possible as even a mild separation usually requires a sling for at least a few days.
Ehrhoff may have got away with a stinger, instead of shoulder separation. Skated today, day-to-day. Wouldn't rush him back though.
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Anyone know the latest on Jumbo Joe? Everyone's speculating ribs.
It's the shoulder according to Kuzma.

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It's the shoulder according to Kuzma.



Hopefully it gets officially announced after the game tomorrow.
Hopefully after Game 5 we will get the facts on Thornton's injury.

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I agree with him actually. You may want to thank Gillis for the roster he has given AV to work with. They get it done in spite of his retarded decisions at times, not because we have great coaching...

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I agree with him actually. You may want to thank Gillis for the roster he has given AV to work with. They get it done in spite of his retarded decisions at times, not because we have great coaching...
Opinions like this are completely retarded. There's more that goes into coaching than making perfect personnel decisions. Or do you people actually believe that all a coach does is pick a line-up and tell them to go out there and play?

Every coach, just like every player, has things he's good at and things he's not good at.

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What does AV have to do with Grabner getting traded? Some people on this board are delusional.

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Good Re: Jumbo Joe.

Hopefully he plays and gets hit hard and often by Canucks forwards. He'll be a liability out there and McLelland will have to juggle lines to accomodate him.

Not to say you wish injury on anyone but that's the reality of playoff hockey.

All that said, anyone questioning his heart now can shut it. He's carried the team on his back at times.

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Good Re: Jumbo Joe.

Hopefully he plays and gets hit hard and often by Canucks forwards. He'll be a liability out there and McLelland will have to juggle lines to accomodate him.

Not to say you wish injury on anyone but that's the reality of playoff hockey.

All that said, anyone questioning his heart now can shut it. He's carried the team on his back at times.
McGinn was the one that said he hoped we'd fall apart without Ehrhoff and Rome. Well this would be karma if Joe plays and is well below 100%.

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