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Tell me why Shea Weber won't be the highest paid D Man in the NHL

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05-14-2011, 05:37 PM
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05-14-2011, 05:38 PM
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He's an RFA, and not a Crosby/Ovy level player where teams would say "******* it, just through as much money as possible at him, he's worth $8 mil per year AND 4 draft picks." If he was a UFA, he would get paid like mad, but as an RFA he'll get less money, period.

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05-14-2011, 05:40 PM
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Think any other team is going to try to send out an offer sheet?

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05-14-2011, 05:42 PM
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Also, the Preds will most likely be prowling the team that signed him for their RFAs. 18 million means there's space for retribution.
Can't spend all of it though, we wouldn't get full revenue sharing then.

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Are we talking highest paid by cap hit or single season salary? If cap hit is the measuring stick, he has to beat Brian Campbell's 7.14 hit, which I think is possible and certainly probable. If we're talking about single season salary, he needs to beat Zdeno Chara's 8.5 million dollar 2011-12 season salary, which is far less likely unless Weber signs a very long-term deal (10 years or more) with a value that levels off toward the end of the deal. I see him getting around 7.5 million a year for 5-7 years, similar to the deal Chara got when he first signed with the Bruins in 2006.

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TO be honest? Nashville wins no matter what.

Sign Weber on the hometown discount. Cool more money for Suter and Rinne.

Weber signs a 4 1st offer sheet. Cool, Weber is not as good without Suter and then Nashville get's 4 1sts and 8 Million to spend on Trades and UFAs. Blum became the #3 defenseman as a rookie. Willing to bet he's #1 defenseman material now. Josi is looking great, R. Ellis nearly won a job last year out of camp. Franson is serviceable.

Would it suck to lose Weber. Yeah. Will it kill Nashville. Oh Hell no.

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05-14-2011, 07:27 PM
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I just hope Weber isn't the next Phaneuf.



















Jinx jinx jinx jinx jinx jinx jinx jinx jinx jinx

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05-14-2011, 07:28 PM
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Weber is an RFA who will take a hometown discount.

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05-14-2011, 07:55 PM
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10 years for around $6-6.5 million a year is my guess. Then on July 1 Suter is re-signed for the same exact deal.

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05-14-2011, 08:00 PM
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Nashville doesn't have much money to work with, and paying any player more than Brian Campbell's 7.14 annual cap hit is pretty illogical regardless of the name on the back.

Something in the 6 million range could make sense for both parties.

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05-14-2011, 10:05 PM
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Think any other team is going to try to send out an offer sheet?
Florida from a financial standpoint, don't count out Edmonton.

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05-14-2011, 10:09 PM
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its not glen sather trying to sign him

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05-14-2011, 10:20 PM
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I've looked at it, and teams that would be in a position to toss him a legitimate offer sheet are pretty much all at least another season or two from being competitive.

Doesn't matter though. Poile will use arbitration to block any ability for another team to offer sheet him if it looks like negotiations will go until July 1 and beyond. Both sides have said they are looking to have something wrapped up before July.

Weber certainly could make a strong argument for being worth $7mil+, but part of me feels that he will take less money so Poile is able to ice a stronger team next year. Weber knows we are lacking that one scary offensive threat, so I really believe he will take a deal closer to $6mil to open up some room for that. As far as making it easier to re-sign Suter and Rinne if he takes a discount, players coming off of contract and the way certain contracts are structured salary-wise (Erat) pays for those raises. Rinne is already making $4mil in real salary next season. I think he can be signed for $6mil or less, and Suter is making $3.5. Add $2.5 to him and you're good.

(how awesome would it be if we could have Rinne, Weber, and Suter all signed for $18mil?)

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05-14-2011, 10:41 PM
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nashville wins no matter what... some dumbass can sign him to an 8mil offersheet... which nashville will absolutely not match, get 4 1st round picks....sign radulov to a 3 year 18mil contract that will start after his elc(and would have a legit reason to come over). Then you get a core of radulov, suter, rinne= cup worthy baby! of course they want to keep weber, but there not going to lose overall, because you can just use the money on a cheaper contract on radulov, if someone offersheets him a ridiculous amount of money. It's always a plus that you have blum and josi as potential #2's coming up.

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05-14-2011, 11:16 PM
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something to consider. between the low cost of living in nashville and no state income tax a dollar in nashville is worth far more than a dollar in ny or toronto.

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Shea Weber should screw the hometown discount and cash in at the bank. $8 million. Just give it to him. With all the country singers already hitched, poor Weber can't get no Carrie Underwood for his wood, no Miranda Lambert, no Martina McBride or Sara Evans, he needs money to put up with the leftover Tennessee girls.

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05-15-2011, 03:20 AM
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LoL at people saying Rinne and Suter are just as important as Weber, and I am a huge fan of both of those guys.

Weber is just coming into his prime and is one of, if not the, best d-men in the league.

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05-15-2011, 08:56 AM
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If Phaneuf is making 6.5M, then Weber should get??? Scary thought...
he got that contract after getting 60 points in 2007-2008

phaneuf age 26 470 games 268 points... 51 ppg, 23 gw
Weber age 25 402 games 214 points.... 36ppg, 15 gw

I understand that Weber has played better in the past two seasons. However, there stats are clearly not that different

IMO if Weber stays in Nashville he gets 7.25M in 5 years

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If Phaneuf is making 6.5M, then Weber should get??? Scary thought...
If Redden is making 6.5 mill its scary to think what any NHL player should get lol

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If Komi makes 4.5M, then...
I'm not a Leafs fan. I'm just showing that you can't measure one's value by looking at another player who may be overpaid.

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LoL at people saying Rinne and Suter are just as important as Weber, and I am a huge fan of both of those guys.

Weber is just coming into his prime and is one of, if not the, best d-men in the league.
Suter is coming into his prime, is a better defensive defenseman than Weber, and his game allows Weber's strong side to shine. Rinne is just entering his prime and one of the best goalies in the league.

Yeah they are all three pretty much equally important, but what do I know? I've only seen every game they've each played in the NHL

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05-15-2011, 02:46 PM
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LoL at people saying Rinne and Suter are just as important as Weber, and I am a huge fan of both of those guys.

Weber is just coming into his prime and is one of, if not the, best d-men in the league.
seems most pred fans say all 3 are about equal ? and you know.. I think we know our team the best.

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05-15-2011, 02:52 PM
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Rinne, Weber, Suter are all equally important. They are the 3 cornerstones of the franchise

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I agree that Weber is their most important player in general, but just remember, he cannot do half the great things he does without Suter watching over his ass in the background!

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