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05-16-2011, 07:57 PM
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We won't know who ends up being the best player out of the draft for several years. It might be any of the guys in the top tier, it might be a late first rounder, or it might even be a guy we've never heard of who gets picked in the fifth round. We don't know for sure.

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05-16-2011, 08:02 PM
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How can #4-#6 overall be a steal? Winner of the draft? Maybe.
Meaning he's flying under the radar more so then the regular names that are getting tossed out there. You always see the same names tossed around and that's Landeskog-Larsson-Couturier but very fiew talk about Huberdeau and he can be the most dominant player out of them all... even RNH for that matter.

The ISS rankings have him at 7 and that's his best ranking. All I'm saying is that he can be the "Jeff Skinner" of this draft.

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05-16-2011, 08:15 PM
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Skinner seems like the winner of the draft, but is he a steal? I don`t think so. Tarasenko is. (still too early to judge, usually 2+ years needed) Eberle is. Berglund is. Giroux is. Merrill should be. Kuznetsov could be. Tedenby could be. Speaking about a steal in the top10 is a contradictory theory in my opinion. A steal in "my book" is a personal dark horse not expected to do much damage based on his pre-draft year and draft year season but able to be much more valuable piece to his team than anybody else thought before. Possibly with an all-star potential. That`s what I call a steal.

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05-16-2011, 09:44 PM
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I define a steal as a player who, in retrospect, should have gone much higher than he did. Parise is a steal. If we re-did the 2003 draft right now, he'd go in the top 10. And we got him with pick #17.

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I know at this point all we can do is speculate but i still think in the end Couturier or Landeskog will be a Devil come draft day and if it actually comes down to picking between those two players I think Lou and Conte pick Couturier because he is a big solid centre who his good and reliable in his own zone, plays physical, can make plays and knows how to score which is something I think this team needs badly a big strong physical two way centre and Sean Couturier definately fits that need for us down the middle.

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If he didn't get injured I'd venture to say top 5 but now there are some question marks.

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05-16-2011, 10:48 PM
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It depends on who's available. If Larsson is somehow there, Lou will laugh his way to the podium to take him.

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I see RNH, Larsson, and Landeskog gone when we pick. If so, I'd like to take Huberdeau if we are going after a F, I think he's got the highest offensive ceiling of all the F in the draft. Couturier is a great player, but I think we could really benefit with Huberdeau's hands


If we go after a D, Murphy for sure.

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round and round we go. where we stop? who freakin knows

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In the asylum.

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I define a steal as a player who, in retrospect, should have gone much higher than he did. Parise is a steal. If we re-did the 2003 draft right now, he'd go in the top 10. And we got him with pick #17.
That`s what I was pointing at.

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05-17-2011, 07:47 AM
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Here's a sneak peek at what FC's prospect guide will look like and some more info on the top #5... http://futureconsiderations.ca/FC%27...Sneak-Peek.pdf

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Rank / Pos. / Name / Team / League / Ht / Wt /
1). C Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Red Deer, WHL, 6’-0”, 165 Lbs
2). C Jonathan Huberdeau, Saint John, QMJHL, 6”-1.5”, 170 Lbs
3). LW Gabriel Landeskog, Kitchener, OHL, 6’-1”, 205 Lbs
4). D Adam Larsson, Skelleftea, Sweden, 6’-3”, 200 Lbs
5). C Sean Couturier, Drummondville, QMJHL, 6’-4”, 195 Lbs
6). D Dougie Hamilton, Niagara, OHL, 6’-4.5”, 190 Lbs
7). D Ryan Murphy, Kitchener, OHL, 5’-10.5”, 165 Lbs
8). C Ryan Strome, Niagara, OHL, 6’-0”, 175 Lbs
9). D Nathan Beaulieu, Saint John, QMJHL, 6”-2”, 180 Lbs
10). C Mika Zibanejad, Djurgarden, Sweden, 6’-1.5”, 190 Lbs
11). D Duncan Siemens, Saskatoon, WHL, 6’-2.5”, 190 Lbs
12). C Mark McNeill, Prince Albert, WHL, 6’-1.5”, 200 Lbs
13). C Mark Scheifele, Barrie, OHL, 6’-2”, 185 Lbs
14). C Rocco Grimaldi, NTDP U18, USHL, 5’-6”, 165 Lbs
15). D Jonas Brodin, Farjestad, Sweden, 6’-1”, 170 Lbs
16). LW Matt Puempel, Peterborough, OHL, 6’-0.5”, 195 Lbs
17). D Jamie Oleksiak, Northeastern, NCAA, 6’-7”, 245 Lbs
18). RW Joel Armia, Assat, Finland, 6’-3”, 190 Lbs
19). C Vladislav Namestnikov, London, OHL, 6’-0”, 165 Lbs
20). LW Brandon Saad, Saginaw, OHL, 6’-1.5”, 205 Lbs
21). RW Nicklas Jensen, Oshawa, OHL, 6’-2.5”, 185 Lbs
22). RW Tyler Biggs, NTDP U18, USHL, 6’-2”, 210 Lbs
23). G John Gibson, NTDP U18, USHL, 6’-3”, 205 Lbs
24). D Oscar Klefbom, Farjestad, Sweden, 6’-3”, 200 Lbs
25). LW Sven Bartschi, Portland, WHL, 5’-10”, 180 Lbs
26). RW Dmitri Jaskin, Slavia, Czech Rep, 6’-1.5”, 195 Lbs
27). C Zack Phillips, Saint John, QMJHL, 6’-1”, 175 Lbs
28). C Boone Jenner, Oshawa, OHL, 6’-1.5”, 205 Lbs
29). D Joe Morrow, Portland, WHL, 6’-0.5”, 200 Lbs
30). C Jonathan Miller, NTDP U18, USHL, 6’-1.5”, 200 Lbs
Rank / Pos. / Name / Team / League / Ht / Wt /
31). C Alexander Khokhlachev, Windsor, OHL, 5’-10”, 185 Lbs
32). D Connor Murphy, NTDP U18, USHL, 6’-3”, 185 Lbs
33). RW Ty Rattie, Portland, WHL, 5’-11”, 160 Lbs
34). D David Musil, Vancouver, WHL, 6’-3.5”, 200 Lbs
35). C Daniel Catenacci, Sault Ste. Marie, OHL, 5’-10”, 180 Lbs
36). D Adam Clendening, Boston University, NCAA, 5’-11”, 190 Lbs
37). D Scott Mayfield, Youngstown, USHL, 6’-3.5”, 200 Lbs
38). C Victor Rask, Leksand, Sweden, 6’-1.5”, 195 Lbs
39). C Shane Prince, Ottawa, OHL, 5’-10”, 175 Lbs
40). RW Tomas Jurco, Saint John, QMJHL, 6’-2”, 185 Lbs
41). LW Phillip Danault, Victoriaville, QMJHL, 6’-0”, 170 Lbs
42). RW Rickard Rakell, Plymouth, OHL, 6’-0.5”, 190 Lbs
43). C Gregory Hofmann, Ambri-Piotta, Switzerland, 6’-0”, 175 Lbs
44). RW Brett Ritchie, Sarnia, OHL, 6’-3”, 210 Lbs
45). RW Stefan Noesen, Plymouth, OHL, 6’-0.5”, 195 Lbs
46). D Myles Bell, Regina, WHL, 6’-0”, 210 Lbs
47). C Nick Shore, U of Denver, NCAA, 6’-0”, 195 Lbs
48). LW Lucas Lessio, Oshawa, OHL, 6’-0.5”, 195 Lbs
49). RW Seth Ambroz, Omaha, USHL, 6’-2”, 210 Lbs
50). C Vincent Trocheck, Saginaw, OHL, 5’-10”, 180 Lbs
51). C Matthew Nieto, Boston University, NCAA, 5’-11”, 180 Lbs
52). G Samu Perhonen, JyP Jr., Finland, 6’-4”, 170 Lbs
53). LW Mario Lucia, Wayzata, USHS, 6’-2”, 180 Lbs
54). D Stuart Percy, Mississauga, OHL, 6’-0.5”, 185 Lbs
55). C Joseph Labate, Holy Angels, USHS, 6’-4”, 180 Lbs
56). D Joel Edmonson, Moose Jaw, WHL, 6’-4.5”, 190 Lbs
57). G Michael Morrison, Kitchener, OHL, 6’-0”, 175 Lbs
58). D Robbie Russo, NTDP U18, USHL, 5’-11.5”, 185 Lbs
59). LW Nikita Kucherov, CSKA Jr., Russia, 5’-10”, 160 Lbs
60). C Reid Boucher, NTDP U18, USHL, 5’-9.5”, 190 Lbs

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Here's FC's 2010 mock draft (done in may 2010). Pretty interesting to see what they projected versus what happend... http://futureconsiderationsdotca.wor...ay-mock-draft/

* The 15th overall player will be one sick mofo at the NHL level


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Here's FC's 2010 mock draft (done in may 2010). Pretty interesting to see what they projected versus what happend... http://futureconsiderationsdotca.wor...ay-mock-draft/

* The 18th overall player will be one sick mofo at the NHL level
FC really is the best.

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Here's FC's 2010 mock draft (done in may 2010). Pretty interesting to see what they projected versus what happend... http://futureconsiderationsdotca.wor...ay-mock-draft/

* The 18th overall player will be one sick mofo at the NHL level
Man that kid @ 15 is gonna be such a bust.. didn't even go 1st round

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Man that kid @ 15 is gonna be such a bust.. didn't even go 1st round
That's what I meant.... facepalm for me I guess

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For those who are interested, here`s the newest Hockey News magazine (most ready prospects of every NHL team) + special edition for 2011 entry draft I found.

http://depositfiles.com/en/files/32smin7w1

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Very low key "wow", didn't realize Merrill was ranked that high at that point. Boston is a lucky team.

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Yum Larsson at 4

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Here's a sneak peek at what FC's prospect guide will look like and some more info on the top #5... http://futureconsiderations.ca/FC%27...Sneak-Peek.pdf
I'm happy with the fact that more and more draft guides have Larsson at #4. I really hope he falls to us.

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Here's FC's 2010 mock draft (done in may 2010). Pretty interesting to see what they projected versus what happend... http://futureconsiderationsdotca.wor...ay-mock-draft/

* The 15th overall player will be one sick mofo at the NHL level
Surprising how it actually turned out. Even more surprising than Merrill's drop is Galiev's. Washington was projected to take him with their first rounder in that mock, but they ended up getting him with their third rounder. Madness.

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Me likes my options. Get one of the top 5 or Murphy and I'll be haaaaaappy!

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Maybe if Larsson has crap interviews and can only do 3 pushups, he'll fall to 4.

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I don't think Florida will take him. They probably feel set on defence, and they need a franchise forward out of this draft.

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taking huberdeau would be great for the cats. not just to benefit us by allowing us to take larsson, but because they could really use a player like him.

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As long as we get Larsson, Landeskog, Courituer or Murphy plus picks I will be happy...hell even if Dougie Hamiliton becomes a Devil ill take

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