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05-20-2011, 10:50 AM
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Kesler for Seguin?

Would either team do this?
It would really shake things up!

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Nucks would never do it, Bruins would do it if they could make it work cap wise.

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why would the Canaucks even consider that?

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Nucks would never do it, Bruins would do it if they could make it work cap wise.
Nope.

Kesler is a star, but Seguin's potential is way to high to trade at this point. Now if Sidney Crosby or Steven Stamkos were on the block that is a different story. And that is not to say Vancouver should do it either.

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Would either team do this?
It would really shake things up!
Why would either team want to "shake things up!"??? Both teams say no.

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Nucks definitely don't do it. B's might.

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Cause two teams that are currently in the Conference finals both obviously need a real shakeup.

Neither does it. Kesler is better now, Seguin could very well be better in the near future.

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Why would either team make this trade? They're both in the conference finals so why would they need a shakeup?

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Canucks wouldn't do it in a million years first of all. But second, I think the Bruins have a guy in Bergeron that does everything Kesler does other than score at a PPG clip. Of all teams in the NHL, the Bruins are one of the few that Kesler's skill set isn't completely unique in the sense that they're already getting a lot of what he brings.

As already stated though, Vancouver wouldn't make this trade in a million years.

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Grabovski for Hodgson?

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B's say yes without hesitation Nucks wonder if the offer is serious

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Oh we would? Wed have to move Krejci/Bergy as a result so is that upgrade to Kesler worth trading Seguin? Not so sure.

If we could net a decent return for one of those then I'd certainly consider it tho. Kesler would look great in the Black and Gold.

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Even if the value was there the Canucks would have to be ******** to do it. The Sedins are over 30 now, they need someone who can play now. Seguin is only 19 now and could easily take another 3-4 years to develop. Who knows what state the Canucks and the Sedins will be in at that point. Why would the Canucks sacrifice their window now. Even if they don't win it this season, they still have a few years of having both the Sedins and Kesler in their primes.

For Boston they really need the cap space that Seguin's entry level contract provides. So if they take on Kesler's cap hit they have to jetison someone else as well. Plus Boston needs wingers not centres.

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Would either team do this?
It would really shake things up!
Canucks laugh and block Bruins number. Seriously? Why would Canucks want to shake things up??? The value isn't even close

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Canucks wouldn't do it in a million years first of all. But second, I think the Bruins have a guy in Bergeron that does everything Kesler does other than score at a PPG clip. Of all teams in the NHL, the Bruins are one of the few that Kesler's skill set isn't completely unique in the sense that they're already getting a lot of what he brings.

As already stated though, Vancouver wouldn't make this trade in a million years.
Well said TS, was thinking exactly this

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05-20-2011, 11:52 AM
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Why on earth would two team two wins away from the Stanley Cup final be in need of a "shakeup"? From a Canucks POV hell to the no, Kesler is the most valuable player to the organization yes even more valuable than the last two art ross winners. Nothing against Seguin who will be just as good as Kesler if not better, but Vancouver will not move Kesler unless Crosby is coming our way.

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Right now with the current position both teams are in (Cup contenders) they don't make this move. If the teams were trending in different directions, meaning the B's were cup contenders and the Canucks were in full re-build mode then the value is probably fair.

Kesler has current value. In fact his value is at it's highest point ever, where Seguin has future value so it's hard to guage what his actual worth would be. But since it will not happen, I guess it's not really a concern

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If Kesler and Seguins cap hit was equal, I could see the B's saying yes or atleast seriously considering it. Even still though, the difference is less than 1.5mil/season. Kesler is locked up longterm to a steal of a deal for what he brings to the table, if I'm Boston I do this for sure. Imagine Boston with a Selke 40goal centerman.. unfair haha..

Lucic-Kesler-Horton
Marchand-Krejci-Recchi
Ryder-Bergeron-Kelly
Paille-Campbell-Thornton

Looks damn solid to me. Plus, Ryder and likely Recchi will be off the books next season so you could toss that money at a guy like Laich to upgrade the top 6.

Obviously Vancouver says no, but damn, that forward group looks sick on paper.

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05-20-2011, 12:14 PM
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Both teams are in the final 4. Why do they need a shakeup, again?

Vancouver won't trade Kesler's talent and Boston won't trade Seguin's potential.

From a neutral standpoint, Boston would need to add to equal the value of Kesler, but that's not something I think they would want to do.

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05-20-2011, 12:30 PM
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Haha, no way. Seguin is faster, more skilled, younger and Canadian.

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Both teams are in the final 4. Why do they need a shakeup, again?

Vancouver won't trade Kesler's talent and Boston won't trade Seguin's potential.

From a neutral standpoint, Boston would need to add to equal the value of Kesler, but that's not something I think they would want to do.
Agree Boston would need to add today - but the deal will never happen because that potential is so high that Seguin might end up far ahead of Kesler, who while an outstanding forward (his 40g season is impressive), is still arguably a 40/40 guy at best [with an incredible two way game]. Seguin has the potential (but may never achieve) to be consistent 100 point player. As both teams are conference finalists, there's really no need for either to make the deal.

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Trade makes no sense. Canucks are cup contenders...not rebuilding. If we were in a rebuilding stage maybe...but then again Kesler's still young so it still doesn't make sense.

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Seguin had two great games. Tampa underestimated his speed, he broke through and finished, good for him. Im glad to see young talent do well but hes still far from equal value for kesler. Match seguin up against the best line and often top D pairing and youll see the kid disappear faster than he appeared this series. His ceiling may be well be a 1st center for the B's but not anytime soon in my view.

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Seguin is faster than Kesler, but Kesler is way for talented. Boston should be grateful if Seguin turns into a Kesler.

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why would the Canaucks even consider that?
They don't, not even for a second.

Although they probably chuckle about it afterwards.

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