HFBoards  

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > The Business of Hockey
The Business of Hockey Discuss the financial and business aspects of the NHL. Franchise sales, valuations, TV contracts, ratings, expansion, relocation, the CBA and work stoppage discussion goes here.

Hamilton II: The City, The League, and The Coliseum

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old
03-22-2012, 05:13 PM
  #526
Evil Doctor
88 years later...
 
Evil Doctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Cambridge, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,711
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan34222 View Post
MR Branch on fan590. The last bit of the interview.
http://www.fan590.com/ondemand/media...21_184335_4176

This would be nice..Connor McDavid to the Ottors next year, the Ottors to Hamilton the following year.
It's nice to know there is one league that is enthusiastic about a team in Hamilton. Clearly, reading between the lines, if the AHL leaves, the OHL will be in there in the very next second, barring any NHL team coming in obviously...

Evil Doctor is offline  
Old
03-23-2012, 04:36 AM
  #527
Ryan34222
Registered User
 
Ryan34222's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hamilton
Country: Canada
Posts: 941
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil Doctor View Post
It's nice to know there is one league that is enthusiastic about a team in Hamilton. Clearly, reading between the lines, if the AHL leaves, the OHL will be in there in the very next second, barring any NHL team coming in obviously...
It's just nice hearing a commissioner actual say the word Hamilton. That other little guy acts like the word Hamilton isn't in his vocabulary.

Than again Toronto would probably threaten to sue if GB says it too often Lol.

Ryan34222 is offline  
Old
03-23-2012, 02:33 PM
  #528
zman
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Buffalo
Country: United States
Posts: 685
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamilton Tigers View Post
Hey zman, as a Sabres STH, I'm wondering what your opinion would be in regards to a Hamilton NHL team.

Would such a team be good for the Sabres if they were in the same division? Would Hamilton games be GOLD games?

If you think a Hamilton franchise would hurt the Sabres, I'm wondering to what degree you think that would be?

Do you have any inkliing what part of Ontario those Canadian Sabres fans are from? Mostly Fort Erie, NF, St Catherine's? How far west do a substantial number of them come from?

(BTW, Go Sabres, Go!. Hope they bump the Caps out of a playoff spot!)
Well, I've always been pro Canadian so maybe I'm not the best person to ask. Since day 1 of existence the Sabres have honored the Canadian National Anthem before home games and I like that. i personally think it would be cool to have Hamilton in the league and our division. I can see the Sabres concern though. WHen the team is good and competitive, they have no problem selling out from people in WNY. When times are lean they definitely need the Canadian fans to buy tickets and help fill the building. I do think the majority of Ontario people coming to games are from south and east of Hamilton. I'm sure you have some from the 'burbs of Toronto especially since many of the Canadian players have so many family/friends from that area. Calgary played here earlier in the year and there were many Flames jerseys in the stands. I have no clue where all these people came from but I assume the Flames, Canucks, Oilers and Jets all have fans in the Golden Horeshoe area. So they come to Buffalo because it's cheaper and easier than Toronto. And Yes, if Hamilton fans were as passionate as Toronto fans, they would absolutely be Gold games...and a lot of fun to attend.

zman is offline  
Old
03-23-2012, 08:57 PM
  #529
Hamilton Tigers
Registered User
 
Hamilton Tigers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hamilton
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,204
vCash: 500
I'm somwhat surprised and gladdened by your response!

Quote:
Originally Posted by zman View Post
Calgary played here earlier in the year and there were many Flames jerseys in the stands. I have no clue where all these people came from but I assume the Flames, Canucks, Oilers and Jets all have fans in the Golden Horeshoe area.
True, but it's hardly limited to Canadian teams. You see l kinds of sweaters, besides Leafs, around here. Bruins, Red Wings, Blackhawks, Penguins, Flyers.

There are all kinds of NHL fans wanting to latch on to a team.

Hamilton Tigers is offline  
Old
03-23-2012, 09:10 PM
  #530
Killion
Registered User
 
Killion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,293
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamilton Tigers View Post
You see l kinds of sweaters, besides Leafs, around here. Bruins, Red Wings, Blackhawks, Penguins, Flyers...
Kitchener-Waterloo Dutchmen, Paris Mounties, Hamilton Fincups, Flamborough Motts Clamatos, Guelph Biltmores.... all kinds huh?.

Killion is online now  
Old
03-24-2012, 07:42 AM
  #531
Hamilton Tigers
Registered User
 
Hamilton Tigers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hamilton
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,204
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Killion View Post
Kitchener-Waterloo Dutchmen, Paris Mounties, Hamilton Fincups, Flamborough Motts Clamatos, Guelph Biltmores.... all kinds huh?.
Even these, believe it or not...




Hamilton Tigers is offline  
Old
03-31-2012, 09:01 AM
  #532
Evil Doctor
88 years later...
 
Evil Doctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Cambridge, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,711
vCash: 500
As we get closer to decision day this Wednesday for the new operators of HECFI, a mixed bag of news involving many Hamilton hockey stories...

Bulldogs owner in talks to lease Copps for at least 5 more years

Bulldogs:

Quote:
The owner of the Hamilton Bulldogs has opened negotiations with the city to extend his lease at Copps Coliseum for as many as five more years.

As he did so, team owner Michael Andlauer reiterated his position that despite persistent rumours his team will be leaving for Laval, he’s not planning on going anywhere.

“I would think it’s something that could be done relatively quickly,” he says of the new lease deal. “I’m not asking for any concessions.”
HECFI:

Quote:
As you’ll recall, the city is in the midst of a move to have Copps and other HECFI properties operated by a private, outside management company. The acting CEO of the city organization says he’s looking to have the framework of a deal with the Bulldogs in place ready for the new group when it arrives.

But John Hertel acknowledges that any group that takes over is likely going to want to make its own decisions about long-term leases and won’t want to be locked into a long-term deal it didn’t sign. As a result, he says, the current HECFI board can negotiate but probably isn’t in a position to finalize anything.

“We can’t really make any commitments,” Hertel says.

Meaning Andlauer may ultimately end up dealing with a yet-unknown landlord who may or may not want him as an anchor tenant in their building. Or may or may not like the agreement that’s been struck.
Erie Otters:

Quote:
Besides, there are still questions about whether or not the OHL’s Erie Otters could be a factor in this drama. Several weeks ago, a city staff report that never made it to council outlined efforts that could’ve brought the team to Hamilton to play at the Dave Andreychuk Mountain Arena until Copps came available.

The idea seemed to die off when the team and the Pennsylvania city recently reached an agreement in principle to extend the lease for two years. However, that contract still hasn’t been signed.
Could be an interesting week...

Evil Doctor is offline  
Old
04-02-2012, 03:59 PM
  #533
Ryan34222
Registered User
 
Ryan34222's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hamilton
Country: Canada
Posts: 941
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil Doctor View Post
As we get closer to decision day this Wednesday for the new operators of HECFI, a mixed bag of news involving many Hamilton hockey stories...
wow.. that time already.. times flying by too fast. Anyone thinking its not going to be AEG?

Ryan34222 is offline  
Old
04-02-2012, 04:46 PM
  #534
Killion
Registered User
 
Killion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,293
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan34222 View Post
wow.. that time already.. times flying by too fast. Anyone thinking its not going to be AEG?
They appear to have the inside track however, pretty competitive field....

Killion is online now  
Old
04-02-2012, 05:39 PM
  #535
JMROWE
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Hamilton Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 796
vCash: 500
Katz\AEG have this deal in the bag because of there pledge to try & bring an NHL. team to Hamilton & don't be surprised after they gain control of HECFI. they try to gain control of the new stadium too.

JMROWE is offline  
Old
04-02-2012, 06:56 PM
  #536
Evil Doctor
88 years later...
 
Evil Doctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Cambridge, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,711
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Killion View Post
They appear to have the inside track however, pretty competitive field....
Indeed, they are pretty much the three biggest arena/entertainment managers in North America if I'm not mistaken.

I'm not sure but isn't the Air Canada Centre managed by MLSE? It's quite possible that each of the managing companies want an 'in' to the Southern Ontario market and see this as a big business opportunity. This can only benefit Hamilton no matter who wins....

Evil Doctor is offline  
Old
04-02-2012, 07:14 PM
  #537
Killion
Registered User
 
Killion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,293
vCash: 500
Ya, MLSE is all in-house. Kinda surprising they didnt bid on the Contract eh Doc?... as if.

But seriously, if they only had the Courage, the Heart, the Brains to do so and welcomed rather than fought a team at Copps they could make out like Bandits....

which they are anyways...

or did a farmhouse land on Peddies head?...


Last edited by Killion: 04-02-2012 at 07:20 PM.
Killion is online now  
Old
04-02-2012, 10:34 PM
  #538
Ryan34222
Registered User
 
Ryan34222's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hamilton
Country: Canada
Posts: 941
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil Doctor View Post
Indeed, they are pretty much the three biggest arena/entertainment managers in North America if I'm not mistaken.

I'm not sure but isn't the Air Canada Centre managed by MLSE? It's quite possible that each of the managing companies want an 'in' to the Southern Ontario market and see this as a big business opportunity. This can only benefit Hamilton no matter who wins....
Hopefully they can bring in a UFC event or 2.

Ryan34222 is offline  
Old
04-02-2012, 10:42 PM
  #539
Ryan34222
Registered User
 
Ryan34222's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hamilton
Country: Canada
Posts: 941
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMROWE View Post
Katz\AEG have this deal in the bag because of there pledge to try & bring an NHL. team to Hamilton & don't be surprised after they gain control of HECFI. they try to gain control of the new stadium too.
If I'm not mistaken I believe all interested parties said they would do their best to bring a team here. Katz group being involved has to be a big plus when the city decides.

Mr Rowe, what new stadium? Ivor Wynne v2?

Ryan34222 is offline  
Old
04-05-2012, 07:54 AM
  #540
Ryan34222
Registered User
 
Ryan34222's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hamilton
Country: Canada
Posts: 941
vCash: 500
Sigh... Been searching the interweb for HECFI news....notta.

Although, I can see why there are so many hard hitters wanting to buy HECFI, the Flamborough slots maybe moved to Hamiltons downtown and it seems the new owner gets peice of the pie

Ryan34222 is offline  
Old
04-05-2012, 08:08 AM
  #541
Hamilton Tigers
Registered User
 
Hamilton Tigers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hamilton
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,204
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan34222 View Post
Sigh... Been searching the interweb for HECFI news....notta.
Pushed back to April 27th?


http://www.hamilton.ca/CityDepartmen...calendars2012/

Hamilton Tigers is offline  
Old
04-05-2012, 08:22 AM
  #542
Ryan34222
Registered User
 
Ryan34222's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hamilton
Country: Canada
Posts: 941
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamilton Tigers View Post
Thanks HT. Why am I not surprised.

Ryan34222 is offline  
Old
04-05-2012, 08:29 AM
  #543
Hamilton Tigers
Registered User
 
Hamilton Tigers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hamilton
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,204
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan34222 View Post
Thanks HT. Why am I not surprised.
Look at the bright side: Maybe AEG/Katz are working on some last minute details with the NHL or OLG, or both.

Hamilton Tigers is offline  
Old
04-05-2012, 08:33 AM
  #544
Ryan34222
Registered User
 
Ryan34222's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hamilton
Country: Canada
Posts: 941
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamilton Tigers View Post
Thanks HT.

Ryan34222 is offline  
Old
04-05-2012, 11:26 AM
  #545
Evil Doctor
88 years later...
 
Evil Doctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Cambridge, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,711
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamilton Tigers View Post
Yep there it is. Man I was even looking at that and didn't even notice it...

Sure why not, April 27th it's announced that the Coyotes are moving to Hamilton...


Evil Doctor is offline  
Old
04-11-2012, 12:12 AM
  #546
Evil Doctor
88 years later...
 
Evil Doctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Cambridge, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,711
vCash: 500
Just a quick news item. The Erie Otters are now officially off the table for a move....for now....

Otters' Bassin signs Tullio lease agreement

Quote:
Bassin, Otters managing partner and general manager, said Friday he planned to sign the paperwork that night and present it to Casey Wells, the Erie County Convention Center Authority's executive director.

"There's no dramatic moment because I believe it was going to be done anyway," Bassin said Friday at the Bayfront Convention Center
Not unexpected. Whether the Otters stay there two years from now, will depend on the how the affliation arrangement will fare with the Bulldogs. On that front, Andlauer has little faith that the Laval arena will ever be built...

Evil Doctor is offline  
Old
04-11-2012, 03:28 PM
  #547
Ryan34222
Registered User
 
Ryan34222's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hamilton
Country: Canada
Posts: 941
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil Doctor View Post
Just a quick news item. The Erie Otters are now officially off the table for a move....for now....

Otters' Bassin signs Tullio lease agreement



Not unexpected. Whether the Otters stay there two years from now, will depend on the how the affliation arrangement will fare with the Bulldogs. On that front, Andlauer has little faith that the Laval arena will ever be built...
ahh well, guess were stuck with AHL.
got a question about Bulldogs. can they change uniforms themselves or do they have to run that past The Canadiens first? it probably would help if they stopped looking like Montreals uni's.. i say keep the outdoor classic sweaters they were sweat.

Ryan34222 is offline  
Old
04-11-2012, 04:59 PM
  #548
Melrose Munch
Registered User
 
Melrose Munch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 12,923
vCash: 500
There HAS to be a Billionaire in this region... we should be recruiting for the NHL.

Melrose Munch is offline  
Old
04-11-2012, 05:41 PM
  #549
JMROWE
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Hamilton Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 796
vCash: 500
It would not surprise me if & when Daryl Katz \ AEG. take over HECFI. & it is a pretty clear that it is solid bet that they will that Katz\AEG.are looking or have already found someone or a group that wants to bring an NHL. team to Hamilton .

JMROWE is offline  
Old
04-11-2012, 10:52 PM
  #550
Evil Doctor
88 years later...
 
Evil Doctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Cambridge, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,711
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan34222 View Post
ahh well, guess were stuck with AHL.
got a question about Bulldogs. can they change uniforms themselves or do they have to run that past The Canadiens first? it probably would help if they stopped looking like Montreals uni's.. i say keep the outdoor classic sweaters they were sweat.
I think it depends on who owns the franchise. Hamilton is owned by Andluaer so it probably can choose any uniform or colour it wants but I've always been a fan of AHL teams using the colours and striping of their parent club.

As for the outdoor classic sweaters...ewwwww...I think they should wash them first....



Evil Doctor is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:47 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2013 All Rights Reserved.