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(1) Vancouver Canucks vs. (2) San Jose Sharks Part Diduck/McLaren

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05-22-2011, 07:03 PM
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Nonsense. Even if the Canucks make the finals, they face two great goaltenders, either of whom are capable of stealing a series. Tampa Bay's group of forwards should also give any defense in the league shivers, especially considering the Canucks are down a couple of defensemen now.
Will Roloson be back in for game 5? I would assume so but Smith played fairly well.

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05-22-2011, 07:05 PM
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I don't really agree with this at all; the Sharks have forward depth that rivals or even surpasses the Canucks...the trouble they are having is with Vancouver's team speed, and the mobility of their defensemen. Yes, Vancouver has a deeper blue line, but it's the actual make-up of the blue line that's giving the Sharks fits.

I really don't see a team left in the playoffs that has Vancouver's mix of speed both on defense and at forward.
You're bang on. It's speed all through 4 lines ...with the Sedin line actually being the slowest but they're able to create space not with speed but more hockey IQ, passes, creative plays, etc. But the key diff between Nucks and any other team in the league is the all 6 dmen able to pinch, join the rush as the 4th fwd. Bieksa, Edler, Hamhuis, Erhoff, Ballard, Tanev all very very mobile and can either rush the puck or make the first pass out of zone. So was Salo before his injury.

Asides from Boyle, Sharks have no one that has done that (no idea what Vlasic or White are doing...but I always thought they had the capability of doing that).

I don't really see anyone left in the playoffs being able to counter that . Wings would have been the most likely team to stop the nucks with their possession style game. Bruins are scary mainly due to Thomas...but they are a slow team and I can't see them being able to keep up. I always thought that TB would be able to match the speed a bit more...but again they lack the depth at D...

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05-22-2011, 07:25 PM
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You're bang on. It's speed all through 4 lines ...with the Sedin line actually being the slowest but they're able to create space not with speed but more hockey IQ, passes, creative plays, etc. But the key diff between Nucks and any other team in the league is the all 6 dmen able to pinch, join the rush as the 4th fwd. Bieksa, Edler, Hamhuis, Erhoff, Ballard, Tanev all very very mobile and can either rush the puck or make the first pass out of zone. So was Salo before his injury.

Asides from Boyle, Sharks have no one that has done that (no idea what Vlasic or White are doing...but I always thought they had the capability of doing that).

I don't really see anyone left in the playoffs being able to counter that . Wings would have been the most likely team to stop the nucks with their possession style game. Bruins are scary mainly due to Thomas...but they are a slow team and I can't see them being able to keep up. I always thought that TB would be able to match the speed a bit more...but again they lack the depth at D...
I'm not concerned about Thomas, dude has let in 5 goals in 3 of 4 games.

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Here's that great Sedin shift from game 2:


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05-22-2011, 08:04 PM
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Any update on Joe Thornton?

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05-22-2011, 08:06 PM
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After the game, every canucks fan in the sharks building filled up a ENTIRE section of the upper bowl. Cheering/chanting/singing Oh Canada, Just going insane. The word is there was over 4500 canucks fans in the building.
this doesn't make sense. a section is way fewer than 4500 seats. it's either way fewer Canucks fans than you say (unlikely) or a bunch of fans left and only a few stayed behind to fill up the section we saw on TV (more likely). a section probably holds 300-350 seats.

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Here's that great Sedin shift from game 2:

I would absolutely love to see more of these kinda shifts going on in game 5. awesome.

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05-22-2011, 08:26 PM
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I would absolutely love to see more of these kinda shifts going on in game 5. awesome.
You likely won't unless the Sharks are down by 3 goals with 5 mins left and Mclellan puts in the 4th line to give the first liners rest for the next game.

Well I guess I can see why you would want that situation to occur again.

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05-22-2011, 08:37 PM
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You likely won't unless the Sharks are down by 3 goals with 5 mins left and Mclellan puts in the 4th line to give the first liners rest for the next game.
wait a second.....

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Can't see why there would be anything from the Sharks on Thornton's condition whatsoever - and whatever they do say should be taken with a grain of salt.

Guessing this will be the big story line over the next couple days.

And for all the Canucks fans thinking the series is over if he doesn't play, don't forget Seabrook getting knocked out of the Chicago series after G3, with the Hawks down 3-0...sometimes injuries are a rallying cry. If the Sharks got anything from their third line at all they could win games.

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You likely won't unless the Sharks are down by 3 goals with 5 mins left and Mclellan puts in the 4th line to give the first liners rest for the next game.

Well I guess I can see why you would want that situation to occur again.
exactly. that's basically what I'm saying.

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wait a second.....
Why play your first line in a blowout and risk injuries? That game was not coming back so Mclellan started playing the 4th line a lot more to save his top guys from injuries fatigue.

It's a pretty common practice in games that are blowouts, especially when it was only the second game in a long series.

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Why play your first line in a blowout and risk injuries? That game was not coming back so Mclellan started playing the 4th line a lot more to save his top guys from injuries fatigue.

It's a pretty common practice in games that are blowouts, especially when it was only the second game in a long series.
You missed something I think...

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05-22-2011, 08:47 PM
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You missed something I think...
I aware there wouldn't be a next game if the sharks lose again, but that was the situation of what happened when that video occurred.

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I aware there wouldn't be a next game if the sharks lose again, but that was the situation of what happened when that video occurred.
yeah I was figuring you were speaking hypothetically regarding what might happen in Game 5, haha

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yeah I was figuring you were speaking hypothetically regarding what might happen in Game 5, haha
i thought he was making a joke lol...

one thing i have noticed in all these sharks nucks threads it seems to be nucks fans fighting with every other team's fans in the league... most shark fans seem to be pretty level headed right now and realize the sharks are their own worst enemy right now...

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The way Kesler scored on that powerplay reminded me of Pavelski scoring that kind of goal haha. Wouldn't shark fans agree?

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I wouldn't be surprised if Thornton had his shoulder pop and left the game because he can't physically lift his arm above shoulder height

I wouldn't be surprised if he plays game 5, Couture wasn't ready to come back and he did. Thornton is an even bigger piece of the team.

If he does play, it will be interesting to see if he even takes any face-offs.

It looked like it was his right arm, and he's a left handed shooter so it would be his top hand that is weak.

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The way Kesler scored on that powerplay reminded me of Pavelski scoring that kind of goal haha. Wouldn't shark fans agree?
huh??? more stamkos like or are you rubbing it in???

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huh??? more stamkos like or are you rubbing it in???
Not at all! Pavelski is one of my favorite players, I've just seen Pavelski score alot of goals from that same place just not at the same pace as stamkos.

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Not at all! Pavelski is one of my favorite players, I've just seen Pavelski score alot of goals from that same place just not at the same pace as stamkos.
fair enough... just thought it odd to compare that spot to joe pa he puts in a couple from there but more from the right wing or infront...

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fair enough... just thought it odd to compare that spot to joe pa he puts in a couple from there but more from the right wing or infront...
I agree but he would pot more if Ian White wasn't on the powerplay.

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Yeah, that was a Stamkos special on the PP by Kesler.

I really hope the refs put away the whistles for game 5, make for a more entertaining game.

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The series would be closer if a considerable amount of Sharks weren't playing through significant injuries.


that said, as unfortunate as it may be for the Sharks and their awesome fans (no sarcasm, I mean it, real strong fan base), as a Canucks fan I'm happy that we're capitalizing where we are and up in the series.

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I didn't think that White or Wallin and co would sustain their scoring in this series too, maybe bring Demers in as a 7th dman? He's no specialist there either, Sharks are another team that can use that offensive dman to help out Boyle.

Btw, I've noticed Murray jump into the play a lot more as in pinch and use his body to get the puck deep, I'd like to see him do a bit more but I don't know if he has the hockey IQ to be a big help on the PP. He's pretty composed at passing in his own zone though so why not.

And speaking of dmen, I'd like to see Ballard get a bit more involved in the offense and use his speed, he's shown it a couple times. Edler can be better too, I thought he was better in last year's playoffs and in the Chicago series but he does have the back injury from earlier.

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