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Where would Pitlick, Marincin, Hamilton and Martindale go in this Year's draft?

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05-22-2011, 03:25 AM
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Where would Pitlick, Marincin, Hamilton and Martindale go in this Year's draft?

simple question.

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simple question.
Pitlick late 2nd early third did not Impress too much his first year of junior. Hamilton early first early second shows he shows up when it counts. Martindale see Pitlick made strides this year but not donimate. Marincin Mid to late first good year lots of ice time on a weak team. jmo


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Wait so Hamilton is an early first or late second?

Pitlick would go in about the same spot imo, Hamilton would go late in the first round.

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Wait so Hamilton is an early first or late second?

Pitlick would go in about the same spot imo, Hamilton would go late in the first round.
I meant late first early second and a 19 yearold with a average season in junior would not go early second Imo he has been surpassed by others.

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Pitlick = 30 - 35
Hamilton = 25 - 30
Marincin = 25 - 30
Martindale = Early/Mid 3rd round

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I honestly think Pitlick slides a few spots (mainly because Hamilton and Marincin are first rounders now)

Pitlick didn't have nearly as bad a season as some people around here like to say.

Martindale wouldn't go any lower, might go higher. He had great production, but the same questions are there.

That's my opinion.

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Ya, the fact is the depth of this draft is in question, and Pitlick slid a bit to 31. IMO, he could easily be taken in the first round. I like him more than quite a few guys ranked in the 25-30 this year.

A few things to consider:
Pitlick started very slow, yet still was on pace for close to 35 goals and 80 points if he didn't break his ankle. Regardless of his age, he was a whl rookie, and it took him a while to adjust to the game, new teammates, and new systems, which is not easy. Without the injury and slow start, people would be in love with his season.

To suggest he's somehow a 2nd/3rd round talent is a bit ridiculous. He'd probably go similar range, 25-35.

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I think a few fans are over rating Marincin a bit

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Hamilton, Pitlick and Marincin are all 1st rounders.. Martindale is a mid - late 2nd rounder.

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Ya, the fact is the depth of this draft is in question, and Pitlick slid a bit to 31. IMO, he could easily be taken in the first round. I like him more than quite a few guys ranked in the 25-30 this year.

A few things to consider:
Pitlick started very slow, yet still was on pace for close to 35 goals and 80 points if he didn't break his ankle. Regardless of his age, he was a whl rookie, and it took him a while to adjust to the game, new teammates, and new systems, which is not easy. Without the injury and slow start, people would be in love with his season.

To suggest he's somehow a 2nd/3rd round talent is a bit ridiculous. He'd probably go similar range, 25-35.
Judging by scouting reports on the player's from this year's draft, I think Pitlick and Hamilton both go in the 25-35 range (Booner/Jaskin/Biggs range?). Marincin probably is probably a 15-25 pick (Brodin/Klefbom/Oleksiak range).

Martindale probably is still a late 2nd -early 3d rounder.

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Pitlick may not have put up flashy numbers, but I'd rather look at the whole package. The kid is strong on the puck and a good skater and projects as a 3rd line RW for our club. I think he progressed fine minus the injuries. If we can land McNeill in this draft, we will have one hell of a 3rd line with Hamilton-McNeil-Pitlick for the next decade. The kind of 3rd line that can leave you bloodied and bruised and generate 50 goals over the course of the season.

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Hamilton jumps to late 1st around 25 ahead of coyle, Visentin, nelson, smith.
then again so would others like etem jump considerably
marincin jumps to that 25 range of 1st round as well
pitlick slight improvement into late 1st range dispite his injury
Martindale with steady improvement and great production into the mid second round.

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Pitlick = 30 - 35
Hamilton = 25 - 30
Marincin = 25 - 30
Martindale = Early/Mid 3rd round
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Keep in mind that lots of other clubs are saying the exact same thing. I bet there is probably 60 1st rounders now if you polled every teams fans.

Edmonton's prospects all justified where they were drafted this year and are all on the right track.

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Hamilton jumps to late 1st around 25 ahead of coyle, Visentin, nelson, smit.
Maybe those other guys but I don't see Hamilton jumping ahead of Coyle.

Coyle was probably USA's best player in U-20 WJC and had a really good season in NCAA.

He plays with tons of edge and emotion.. those guys don't come around often.

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Maybe those other guys but I don't see Hamilton jumping ahead of Coyle.

Coyle was probably USA's best player in U-20 WJC and had a really good season in NCAA.

He plays with tons of edge and emotion.. those guys don't come around often.
Sounds like Coyle was probably drafted right where he should have been, whereas I got to see Hamilton as a blade quite a bit and wasn't suprised at all by his hard work.

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Maybe those other guys but I don't see Hamilton jumping ahead of Coyle.

Coyle was probably USA's best player in U-20 WJC and had a really good season in NCAA.

He plays with tons of edge and emotion.. those guys don't come around often.
true, people have been singing the praises for Coyle, but i could easily see Hamilton at least being picked 30th overall last year over Brock Nelson if he didn't have his shoulder injury.
there were a few surprises too if i recall correctly.....i remember a little buzz in the crowd when Hishton went at #17, Tinordi at #22, Kevin Hayes at #24, and goalie Mark Visentin at #27.

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Yeah I think Hamilton would be for sure a 1st rounder. Size, defensive play, and scoring. Every coach can use a guy like that.

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Pitlick may not have put up flashy numbers, but I'd rather look at the whole package. The kid is strong on the puck and a good skater and projects as a 3rd line RW for our club. I think he progressed fine minus the injuries. If we can land McNeill in this draft, we will have one hell of a 3rd line with Hamilton-McNeil-Pitlick for the next decade. The kind of 3rd line that can leave you bloodied and bruised and generate 50 goals over the course of the season.
What I thought Lander was our 3rd line C.

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What I thought Lander was our 3rd line C.
this is the fun part of drafting high for a few years....you get to stockpile a bunch of good players, find spots for the ones who end up better than the others, then maybe trade a few who can't make the team for specific needs.

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That is true.

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Pitlick may not have put up flashy numbers, but I'd rather look at the whole package. The kid is strong on the puck and a good skater and projects as a 3rd line RW for our club. I think he progressed fine minus the injuries. If we can land McNeill in this draft, we will have one hell of a 3rd line with Hamilton-McNeil-Pitlick for the next decade. The kind of 3rd line that can leave you bloodied and bruised and generate 50 goals over the course of the season.
I'm still holding hope that we can draft Scheifele or McNeill and have them develop as our big 2C going forward, then just put Lander in that spot on the 3rd line and we should be set.

Now, we just need to draft them and hope they do what we want lol

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What I thought Lander was our 3rd line C.
Well, I did say (Hammy-McNeil-Pitlick) would be the eventual 3rd line. Lander more than likely gets a look on our 4th line next year and 3rd line the following. In that time McNeil will probably only play junior and still require a season in the A, giving us time to know exactly where Lander fits long-term. Does he have 2nd line C ability? I know Lander plays strong on the puck and fairly physical, but I want our bottom 6 to be down right nasty to play against. Hopefully Lander proves capable of being a 50+pt guy who can play shutdown while doing so - a (very) poor man's Kesler.

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Hamilton for sure would be a first round pick in the 15-30 range. The only reason he dropped as low as he did was because he was injured in his draft year. Everyone knew the potential was there, but nobody was willing to take the risk and use a first round pick on a guy that only played 29 games that year and put up 16 points.

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Only 2 of those kids will go onto have something that resembles an NHL career. It's a little early to tell which two right now. If there's one kid who could surprise sooner rather than later, it could be Hamilton this coming fall.

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