patrick sharp and a 2nd round pick to pittsburgh for jordon stall and then send bolland and brower to florida for weiss.we are then set down the middle for a few years.we could delvelop the krugers and pirri's in rockford with out rushing them to chicago.
patrick sharp and a 2nd round pick to pittsburgh for jordon stall and then send bolland and brower to florida for weiss.we are then set down the middle for a few years.we could delvelop the krugers and pirri's in rockford with out rushing them to chicago.
If I didn't think we could keep Sharp, I don't think that would at all be a horrible return for someone we might otherwise lose for absolutely nothing.
IF we got Staal for that package, we'd be in an interesting spot, because Staal and Bolland are, in a lot of ways, very similar in value to hockey club. The bring a lot of the same game to the rink every night. That being said, I don't think I'd want to trade Bolland for Weiss, much less Bolland AND Brouwer.
In the end, I don't see Staal/Weiss being a big upgrade over Sharp/Bolland. I'm not adverse to the Sharp/Staal proposal, but I don't care for the Bolland & Brouwer/Weiss one.
IDK, that's moving some pretty powerful people from the hawks...other than Brouwer. Bolland is a playoff hero, Sharp is just a hero. I'd rather pass then screw up what we have that has been good for 2 years.
The crazy thing is, we'd be the deepest team at center in the league with Toews, Weiss, and Staal and would save $125K of cap space down the middle if those trades went through. Plus, maybe a free agent acquisition like Belanger, Goc, Halpern, etc. could fill the fourth line center position, too.
I'm not in favor of it. We need change, but how much? Some of my 2011-12 roster proposals have had some unique change, but this really could change the culture of this team.
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patrick sharp and a 2nd round pick to pittsburgh for jordon stall and then send bolland and brower to florida for weiss.we are then set down the middle for a few years.we could delvelop the krugers and pirri's in rockford with out rushing them to chicago.
Sharp does his best work on the wing. Stall is a physical center who is good on the PK and 7 years younger. This is the type of deal we need (especially if you thing Morin will score in the NHL). Not sure the Pens would like it though.
I'd like for us to somehow steal Mark Stuart from Atlanta. I think we have the ammo to do it... it would just be a matter of whether Atlanta would be willing to trade him so soon after re-signing him to his extension.
Also, I think I'd be willing to give Hudler a try as our 2nd line center if the cap goes up to 63 mil and it wouldn't cost too much to acquire him. He has obvious talent, he just needs to prove his worth consistently. He'd have Hossa on his right and Frolik/Morin/Bickell on his left... not bad. At ~3 mil for one more year (IIRC), it might be worth a shot.
Powe would be a good fit for our 4th line and is on a great contract... I don't think the Flyers would be willing to give him up though.
Hudler as the 2nd line center doesn't sound very appealing. I'd rather get Arnott if he was willing to sign for cheap. He was good in Washington. I like Powe, he'd add some grit.
Agree with everything except the bolded part...that's kind of a push.
I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would want to trade Bolland for Weiss. How any Hawk fan hasn't yet figured out that he is the heart and soul of this team...blah.
Agree with everything except the bolded part...that's kind of a push.
I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would want to trade Bolland for Weiss. How any Hawk fan hasn't yet figured out that he is the heart and soul of this team...blah.
I would love to find a way to acq a C like Weiss to be our #2 to allow us to move Sharp to LW with Toews/Kane
But moving Bolland for Weiss solves nothing for Hawks. Sure we would get a good #2 in Weiss but then we are left with big hole at #3 C and depth in bottom 6 becomes an issue again
I would love to find a way to acq a C like Weiss to be our #2 to allow us to move Sharp to LW with Toews/Kane
But moving Bolland for Weiss solves nothing for Hawks. Sure we would get a good #2 in Weiss but then we are left with big hole at #3 C and depth in bottom 6 becomes an issue again
It's no diss on Weiss....but he's only played well for terrible teams. A lot of players like that fall back if they move to a good team, when they dont get handed 1st line minutes, #1 PP time, etc.
Bolland is a stud and might even have the best contract of all the impact players the Hawks have. I'll take it a step further and say he deserved the Conn Smythe last year more than Toews. Lots of huge goals, and shutting down the #1 lines from Vancouver, San Jose and Philly. But it wasn't just shutting down those #1 lines. He shut them down AND frustrated them in to taking stupid penalty after stupid penalty, giving the Hawks PP's and free goals. His only negative was his bad faceoff % in the SC run.
I agree with BWC, these deals are really bad for Chicago.
We aquire Staal to be our new third line centre, and trade a 35-40 goal, 1st line winger AND a 2nd for him? No..
Then the Weiss deal... He's a nice player, especially at that caphit, but Bolland has proved his worth and is one of the few players in the league that can almost single-handedly shut-down a top offensive player.
I'm warming to the idea of Brouwer's rights for Bozak's rights. Both will probably sign for similiar money, and Bozak is a young third line center with offensive ability which is important when Bolland gets hurt.
