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Should White be resigned

View Poll Results: Resign White?
Yes for any amount 5 3.42%
yes for anything <4m 45 30.82%
yes for anything <2.5m 83 56.85%
NO 13 8.90%
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05-25-2011, 11:36 AM
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Should White be resigned

Simple. Are you for or against signing White.

Personally im against it because we need defence that can body check and play defence, that can aslo skate the puck.


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05-25-2011, 11:39 AM
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Can't really vote - I want an option between $2.5 - $3.

It'll be a tough call for White, I think. He probably would like to settle in a city but would want a raise. He's making $3m now (-$5) but I don't think DW should go higher than $3m. Ok, maybe $3.25 but that's tops.

2 yrs preferably. 3yrs max.

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I don't know. Half of me says yes he's a good player, then the other half says get another Dman who is bigger and can bring more to the table. So I guess yes if it's for less than 3million.

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05-25-2011, 11:52 AM
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no. he's small and sucks at defense. he's not a top-4 defenseman, hopefully DW realizes that and lets him go.

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05-25-2011, 11:59 AM
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He's a Demers with more experience. I like his mobility at the point, but he's not a very smart offensive D-man, but he does have a decent shot. Ehh, maybe for under 2.5. Maybe. That said, he's a Demers with more experience.

I'd like to see more from Braun.

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05-25-2011, 12:00 PM
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I'd re-sign him for under 2.5m for sure, but it really depends on who else is available. If for instance DW feels he is not going to be able to bring in a top-2 d-man then he may not have a choice.

Just for for-instancing fun say the Sharks traded Heatley + Vlasic to Minny for Burns (just a random trade I came up with, don't nitpick) you end with something like:

Burns - Demers
Boyle - Murray
White - Braun

If instead it was Heatley + Murray, then keeping White becomes kind of problematic because you end up with a very soft pairing somewhere.

So basically, it depends on what DW thinks he can do outside of re-signing White. If he plans to keep Heatley for instance I suspect he will try to re-sign White and simply look to fill out the D and hope for growth.

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05-25-2011, 12:03 PM
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Boyle-Murray
Vlasic-Demers
Braun-?
?

That's what we're looking at, and I don't know of any other prospects that are NHL ready right now. I think that DW will make a push at it before July 1 just because he doesn't want to find himself on July 15th with the above lineup and having to make a trade or having essentially 3 rookies out of 7. That's why he signed Niitty last year right away before the market even set itself, IMO. Didn't want the idea of Greiss as the #1 still in August.

Ideally, I'd like a guy to take Murray's slot and slide him down with Braun, but who knows if we can find a guy that can do that.

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05-25-2011, 12:04 PM
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I'm on the fence. If I had to vote now, I would say no. If he has to be re-signed though, the most I'd want him signed for is $3.25M.

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05-25-2011, 12:07 PM
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With Ian White (23 Games) the Sharks went from a 3.10 GAA to a 2.43 GAA and a .542 Win Percentage to a .695 Win Percentage. We already know he's a good fit with the team and that DW had is eye on him for a while. If he signs for 3.5 or less I think you make the deal unless we can find a better replacement. I realize those numbers can't be solely attributed to White, but it is a dramatic change.

I don't know how hard DW tries to go after someone else with his boy already in teal. Won't be surprised either way.

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For 11-12:

I want Boyle, Murray, Vlasic, White, Demers, and Braun/UFA for the top 6. I hope White wants to stay (I think he will) and that DW doesn't completely low ball him.

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I'd like to have White back, but only if its less than $3m a year.

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He will be resigned for 3 years, $10 million.

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I hope he takes Wallin money

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I'd like to have White back, but only if its less than $3m a year.

Agreed.

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He will be resigned for 3 years, $10 million.
I'd be fine with that

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Boyle, Braun, Demers, Vlasic, Murray.... you want White in that group? We will need a big stay at home defenseman to match the ones we keep. White isnt that. I thought he was a good bottom pair and its nice having him as a backup to Boyle on the PP but I don't think he is going to fit in the defensive core unless its really cheap and we can get a defensive-defenseman as well in the bottom pair ... carry 7 NHL ready defenseman.

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He will be resigned for 3 years, $10 million.
Probably a good guess.

Does a Braun-White pairing work? Do we just say screw it and go all out offense?

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Yea resign him to Woostah

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We won't get White for $3mil. I'd see him getting from 3.3 to 4 mil a year realistically.

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I was really impressed with White, especially early on in the playoffs. However, I also kinda want to see more of Braun. Wallin money or DW should let him walk.

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Probably a good guess.

Does a Braun-White pairing work? Do we just say screw it and go all out offense?
I'm hoping Petrecki makes a good impression...

Murray - Boyle
Vlasic - Demers
Petrecki - White
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I like White but I don't think he brings a whole lot more than Braun would. Ideally I think the pairings would be

Boyle-
Vlasic-Demers
Braun-Murray

I think Murray would flourish in that role, Vlasic and Demers have cemented themselves as a very capable second pairing, now we just need to find a mobile partner for Boyle

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I like White but I don't think he brings a whole lot more than Braun would. Ideally I think the pairings would be

Boyle-
Vlasic-Demers
Braun-Murray

I think Murray would flourish in that role, Vlasic and Demers have cemented themselves as a very capable second pairing, now we just need to find a mobile partner for Boyle
Petrecki? I really hope he makes the big club next year. He's big and strong like Murray, hits like a tank. Sticks up for teammates. But is more mobile then Murray. Kid could flurish next to Boyle

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Petrecki would be awesome, but I don't know if he'll be available for the NHL by next year.

What we really need is a big, physical, two way defenseman. I think the days of stay at home Dmen are going away in today's NHL - you need to be able to play D, move the puck, and shot to be an effective Dman in today's nhl.

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If it's in the ballpark of 2.5 then I'm fine with that. No doubt he'll want to play for a contender. At the same time, him and Braun are essentially going to be going for the spot on the d-core. Perhaps we'll have to see what kind of summer Braun has and if he's improved defensively.

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