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05-30-2011, 12:17 PM
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Louie Caporusso signed - 2 year entry level contract.

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http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=564173

good news, more stockpiling in Binghamton


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Fantastic.

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bingo 3rd line center?

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Good, Bingo will need replacements after we strip Condra, Greening, Smith, and possibly Daugavins, Locke, or Bass.

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Good to see. Like the other guys said, it'll be good to send him to Binghamton next season after we take their best guys.

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hamilton,da-costa,and maybe some guys we get in this years draft will help fill up the b-sens I hope.

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hamilton,da-costa,and maybe some guys we get in this years draft will help fill up the b-sens I hope.
Hamilton?

EDIT: you must mean wacey...

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Nice.

I like him more than most others I'd imagine. I do think he can be an NHL player someday.

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the contrast in this organization between now and 5 years ago under muckler is startling. we actually have a PIPELINE now of people coming up who might be viable players for us someday.

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the contrast in this organization between now and 5 years ago under muckler is startling. we actually have a PIPELINE now of people coming up who might be viable players for us someday.
Condra, Daugavins, Gryba, Wick and Greening were Muckler picks, and Caporusso and O'Brien were in the tweener draft (2007) where Murray took over a few weeks before the draft, so it was probably still Muckler's scouts.

So it's not all Murray, it's just that the late round college guys are developing and turning pro now.

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the contrast in this organization between now and 5 years ago under muckler is startling. we actually have a PIPELINE now of people coming up who might be viable players for us someday.
...and a non NHL playoff team with a two buy out candidtaes on D making 10 million (Kuba and Gonchar) and a top 6 which only has 1 true forward that we can relly on 1 player (Spezza) every night.

But the AHL team is stacked. (Mostly thanks to Muckler's drafting)

...and no coach. At Least Muckler knew a coach when he saw one, even if he back stabbed him

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...and a non NHL playoff team with a two buy out candidtaes on D making 10 million (Kuba and Gonchar) and a top 6 which only has 1 true forward that we can relly on 1 player (Spezza) every night.

But the AHL team is stacked. (Mostly thanks to Muckler's drafting)

...and no coach. At Least Muckler knew a coach when he saw one, even if he back stabbed him
If Muckler were as shrewd a drafter as you make him out to be, we wouldn't have needed to plug holes by overpaying free agents.

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If Muckler were as shrewd a drafter as you make him out to be, we wouldn't have needed to plug holes by overpaying free agents.
Really? Why give Gonchar a 15 million contract when everybody says he is done, why Kovalev, why Kuba, why give Emery 3 years when he clearly had maturity issues?

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If Muckler were as shrewd a drafter as you make him out to be, we wouldn't have needed to plug holes by overpaying free agents.
umm pretty much every single decent team in the NHL has to plug holes via FA. Including Detroit, Boston, Tampa & Chicago. Don't want to be like them though, do we.

Also, Murray has been here 4 full seasons now. How many does he get before he gets held accountable ? 5 ? 10?

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Oh look, another Murray vs. Muckler debate in a completely unrelated thread. When was the last time this happened? A whole week ago?

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Really? Why give Gonchar a 15 million contract when everybody says he is done, why Kovalev, why Kuba, why give Emery 3 years when he clearly had maturity issues?
Find me one person who said Gonchar was done prior to this season and I'll happily retract my comment on him. Kovalev, it's generally agreed, was a Melnyk insistence. Kuba was because we had no puck-moving defencemen in the system, something Muckler failed to address. Maturity issues? Patrick Roy had maturity issues, would you have not signed him because of that? Emery gave us some good years and looked like a legitimate starter.

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umm pretty much every single decent team in the NHL has to plug holes via FA.
Not to the extent Ottawa has had to these past few years due to limited viable prospects in the system.

I'm taking this thread off topic, so I'll back out of here. Tuna, Kyle, if you want to debate this further feel free to PM. Good for Louie Caporusso, I'm happy for him and the organization.

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You do know that Murray's first round picks have already turned pro or just about to, Karlsson, Cowen, Rundblad while Muckler's older 1st rounders still struggling or just now have found their game, Foligno, Lee, Obrien while Murray's 2nd rounders are actually higher in the depth chart like Silverberg, Lehner, Weircioch.

At the end of the day, Murray finally brought some depth by his drafting and college free agent signings, while he made some bad descisions restrict pro signings and trades.

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He clearly only did this because of the facebook message I sent him.

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Not to the extent Ottawa has had to these past few years due to limited viable prospects in the system.

I'm taking this thread off topic, so I'll back out of here. Tuna, Kyle, if you want to debate this further feel free to PM. Good for Louie Caporusso, I'm happy for him and the organization.
You're completely wrong, so I'll leave it at that.

But if you don't want to debate something let it drop - don't try to have the last word and then ponce away.

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...and a non NHL playoff team with a two buy out candidtaes on D making 10 million (Kuba and Gonchar) and a top 6 which only has 1 true forward that we can relly on 1 player (Spezza) every night.

But the AHL team is stacked. (Mostly thanks to Muckler's drafting)

...and no coach. At Least Muckler knew a coach when he saw one, even if he back stabbed him
Yup, Muckler knows how to draft AHLers.

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If Muckler were as shrewd a drafter as you make him out to be, we wouldn't have needed to plug holes by overpaying free agents.
I could be wrong, but I think we've had quite a number of representatives (Muckler picks) at the KHL All-Star game over the years (probably Kaigorodov & Atyushov, plus some of the others in great seasons).

Muckler gambled on Russians falling in the draft due to transfer uncertainty and lost. We now no longer draft Russians.

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He clearly only did this because of the facebook message I sent him.
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If Muckler were as shrewd a drafter as you make him out to be, we wouldn't have needed to plug holes by overpaying free agents.
Muckler was responsible for the 03-06 drafts… no home runs… took gambles on Russians that he lost.
02 Draft went to MJ… was his last act as Sens GM
07 Draft goes to Mucklers scouts but since Mucks was fired can`t take the credit.

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29 Eaves: 20G as a rookie for us but injuries turned him into a bottom six forward
67 Mirnov: Has been an all star in Russia but could not get him to jump over
135 Karlsson: 51Pts as a D in the AHL in 08-09 but has since gone back to the SEL
291 Elliott: Had some success and was dealt for Anderson down the road by current management.

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23 Meszaros: Showed flashes with us was dealt lost his game and found it… was named Flyers best D this season.
58 Lyamin: Stay at home defenseman in Russia
87 Regin: Many have home that he will still be a solid second line player here.
156 Wick: Had a decent first year in the A… might be a player

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9 Lee: certainly could have done much better with the pick but he will carve out a NHL career.
70 Anikeyenko: Solid stay at home blue liner in Russia
98 Zubov: 08-09 63GP 52Pts… had potential but went home
204 Greening: Played well enough to get a NHL contract this year 24GP 13Pts

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28 Foligno: potentially a solid third line winger… maybe top six still
68 Gryba: viewed as a potential shutdown physical blue liner
91 Daugavins: Having a breakout playoffs as we speak after a solid season.
211 Condra: very good season and may end up being Kelly`s replacement 26GP 11Pts in NHL this season

So four drafts average first was 22nd
- Eight NHLers (Eaves, Meszaros, Elliott, Regin, Lee, Foligno, Greening, Condra)
- Three other potential NHLers (Wick, Daugavins, Gryba)
- Four very good Russians but a failed gamble.

At the end of the day his four drafts could end up producing 11 NHLers

Be curious to find out many players the average draft produces… if it is higher or lower then the 2.75 Mucks may end up with.

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Find me one person who said Gonchar was done prior to this season and I'll happily retract my comment on him.
Try every penguins fan upon the signing... not hard at all.

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