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05-27-2011, 03:56 PM
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Purcell's comments on playing with LA

Interesting read. I'll keep my comments out for now.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey...lead-lightning

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05-27-2011, 04:10 PM
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90+ games and 8 freaking goals... nuff said. Had the talent but lacked the drive.

Glad to see him doing well now but he had his shot with the Kings the rest is history.

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What? Murray is horrible with prospects? No way!

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What? Murray is horrible with prospects? No way!
Yup, he's been real terrible with Doughty, Martinez, Clifford & Simmonds

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The article doesn't say much really, but you did just serve up some red meat for Herby & Co.

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When Teddy was here he wasn't showing signs that he was being underutilized, like Richardson or Lewis sometimes have. He just wasn't cutting it. What he would have done here had he been given more time is the question that we will never have an answer to. Maybe it was the coach, maybe it was style, maybe it was chemistry with linemates, maybe he's just trying harder now. Sometimes a change of scenery can do wonders.

The only thing that is clear is that the trade did not work out for us. Still, if you look at our depth chart at right wing, I don't see his loss creating a hole.

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Yup, he's been real terrible with Doughty, Martinez, Clifford & Simmonds
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zing!
Hey no one ever said bottom line players, goaltenders and defenseman haven't been developed.

How many first line players have been drafted and developed since DL took over?

How many second line players?

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Hey no one ever said bottom line players, goaltenders and defenseman haven't been developed.

How many first line players have been drafted and developed since DL took over?

How many second line players?
Developed? well, there is Kopitar and Brown...

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I'd be throughly worried if somebody couldn't develop Kopitar or Doughty. That would be a level of incompetence so great that I would consider it a sign of the Apocalypse.

As for Martinez and Clifford, they were developed well but, that was easy. Martinez was a bottom pairing guy, Clifford was a 3rd/4th line guy.

I disagree with Murray's system. If we drafted Crosby and Lemieux last year, they would have played in the AHL or on the 3rd/4th line. And they'd stay there forever. Murray needs to give top level prospects a top level chance.

As for the top level prospects, Brown was 23 when Murray arrived (or 22). And who did Kopitar need to beat out to get top line minutes?

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next season will be interesting to see how b. schenn is handled, if he gets fourth line minutes and can't succeed what then ,minors and the inevitable bust worries or do we slot him between two vets and give him 40 or so games to blend in on the second line and if we are so-so team wise in the eighth spot does the fan base turn on him...........

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next season will be interesting to see how b. schenn is handled, if he gets fourth line minutes and can't succeed what then ,minors and the inevitable bust worries or do we slot him between two vets and give him 40 or so games to blend in on the second line and if we are so-so team wise in the eighth spot does the fan base turn on him...........
He'll end up in Toronto and become a star. The script is already written!

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Developed? well, there is Kopitar and Brown...
????? both were not drafted by DL and with the exception of Kopitar's Defense TM has not really developed them.....

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He'll end up in Toronto and become a star. The script is already written!
damn I hate knowing the end of the story ahead of time

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next season will be interesting to see how b. schenn is handled, if he gets fourth line minutes and can't succeed what then ,minors and the inevitable bust worries or do we slot him between two vets and give him 40 or so games to blend in on the second line and if we are so-so team wise in the eighth spot does the fan base turn on him...........
He'll get fourth line minutes for a dozen games, then he'll be sent down to the AHL because he wasn't scoring at a first line pace.

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So how did he get from St. John’s — where not even the Canadian major junior leagues wanted the 114-pound high schooler — to being a 6-2, 200-pound 25-year-old playoff hero? His answer: Confidence.
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I’m a player that needs confidence and builds off that ... I just couldn’t find my role with the coach. I’d play some games. I’d play well, then I wouldn’t play the next game. I couldn’t find that consistency, and I couldn’t earn his trust."
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While he was here, I'm almost positive that he was thinking "I better not make a mistake, otherwise I might not get another shift tonight and I might not play the next several games", so consequently his offense was non-existent because he was unwilling to try something creative. If I were the Kings' GM, I would think it's necessary to consider that. I'm sure Lombardi watches the games, or I hope he does. And if he had, he would have known that the problem with Purcell's offense wasn't a lack of effort, it was a lack of confidence.
... Oh, what? Were we talking about something here?

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90+ games and 8 freaking goals... nuff said. Had the talent but lacked the drive.
... You are aware that 91 games is a little over a season's worth of games, right? So, if a guy struggles offensively in his rookie season while playing third to fourth line minutes at a new position, it's just time to say "enough! he sucks, let's move on"? That's a terrible way to deal with young talent. Not every player develops the same way, nor does every player immediately tear up the league in his first 80-90 games ... do they?

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T. Purcell gets to play with three or four of the best offensive talents in the East in a team system that reduces his defensive responsibilities.

We didn't have that development environment available for him.

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Yup, he's been real terrible with Doughty, Martinez, Clifford & Simmonds
How many of these are responsible for agressive and fast offensive game full of creativity and winning attitude ??

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When Teddy was here he wasn't showing signs that he was being underutilized, like Richardson or Lewis sometimes have. He just wasn't cutting it. What he would have done here had he been given more time is the question that we will never have an answer to. Maybe it was the coach, maybe it was style, maybe it was chemistry with linemates, maybe he's just trying harder now. Sometimes a change of scenery can do wonders.

The only thing that is clear is that the trade did not work out for us. Still, if you look at our depth chart at right wing, I don't see his loss creating a hole.
Are you serious ????????
I was yelling every game at Murray to put Purcell on the ice.....

I can't believe that i'm the only one here who saw the talent of Boyle, Moulson Purcell etc...
Isn't there soemone in the scouting staff who could stop Murray and Lombardi doing something stupid ??

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????? both were not drafted by DL and with the exception of Kopitar's Defense TM has not really developed them.....
to say that TM hasn't developed Kopitar into a star is just blind hate. TM has turned him into 1 of the top forwards in the game by teaching him how to play both sides of the puck in all situations. He wouldnt have learnt that from a Crawford

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to say that TM hasn't developed Kopitar into a star is just blind hate. TM has turned him into 1 of the top forwards in the game by teaching him how to play both sides of the puck in all situations. He wouldnt have learnt that from a Crawford
like i said..... TM did teach him how to be better two way player but Anze would have been a star regardless . He scored 61 and 77 under Crawford.

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Good for Purcell, he's getting some recognition for his decent play this year.

That said, until he does it again this is nothing more than an anomaly. I think a lot of people are forgetting how lackluster he played here. He was nearing 25 on the Kings and never showed or did anything that would indicate he was going to be anything more than a career NHL'er. He didn't skate particularly hard or give outstanding effort, and he certainly didn't give the coaches any reason to put him on the ice. I don't know how someone would actually have wanted him on the ice when he played here. He was lost and uninspired most of the time. I certainly thought there were better options. When he spent the start of the season with Kopitar and Brown, he was completely invisible.

He got a wake-up call and hooked on with a good team that fits his style of play perfectly, and it's worked out great for him. Stuff like this doesn't bother me at all because he wasn't going to put up those numbers in the west, and certainly not in a defensive system.

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Are you serious ????????
I was yelling every game at Murray to put Purcell on the ice.....

I can't believe that i'm the only one here who saw the talent of Boyle, Moulson Purcell etc...
Isn't there soemone in the scouting staff who could stop Murray and Lombardi doing something stupid ??
sorry Kurri, gonna need some proof here. NOBODY here was championing any of those 3 guys publicly. This is 100% 20/20 hindsight.

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sorry Kurri, gonna need some proof here. NOBODY here was championing any of those 3 guys publicly. This is 100% 20/20 hindsight.
I don't know about the others, but JT Dutch was against the trade of Purcell when it happened and was 100% correct in his analysis.

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Are you serious ????????
I read the question first and wondered why anyone would think that. Then I saw who posted it. Suddenly it made sense.

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