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08-12-2010, 06:34 PM
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Who will be the next Buff? (Playoff Version)

With Big Buff gone I wonder who everyone thinks will replace his style in the playoffs mainly as he has'nt been able to transcend that style to the regular season.

Bickell has the best size out of all our forwards but I don't see him having too good of a pair hands, Brouwer has size and good hands and could be the guy, but mainly I would say Beach (if he makes the team of course). Beach has great hands, a mean streak and decent size. None of these guys come close to Buff's size but who in the league does.

Beach would be great if he took that type of role on in the playoffs cuz Vancouver had a shot at him and picked Hodgson instead. If Beach could dominate the Canucks the way Buff did that would be even sweeter, especially if we face off again with them.

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No one can replace Buff. We don't have a "Luongo killer" anymore.

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Between the cap and the common perception that NCAA success doesn't translate to NHL success, I don't really think he'll make the team this year, but I think Ben Smith would step up big time for the playoffs.

I really can't wait to see him next year. Hawks or Hogs, I'll have an easier time watching him next year than I did when he was at BC.

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No one can replace Buff. We don't have a "Luongo killer" anymore.
Um... Kane.

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I think if there is one guy that can step in and really make you forget anyone we lost as an individual (offensively) it's Beach. But, Brouwer already was really just as effective on that line with Toews and Kane. Where you really miss Buff is that PO PP.

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08-13-2010, 01:24 AM
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Beach, but I think every Player not named Kane, Toews, Keith, Hossa, Seabrook and Campbell are replaceable

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With Big Buff gone I wonder who everyone thinks will replace his style in the playoffs mainly as he has'nt been able to transcend that style to the regular season.

Bickell has the best size out of all our forwards but I don't see him having too good of a pair hands, Brouwer has size and good hands and could be the guy, but mainly I would say Beach (if he makes the team of course). Beach has great hands, a mean streak and decent size. None of these guys come close to Buff's size but who in the league does.

Beach would be great if he took that type of role on in the playoffs cuz Vancouver had a shot at him and picked Hodgson instead. If Beach could dominate the Canucks the way Buff did that would be even sweeter, especially if we face off again with them.
If you've ever seen Hodgson play then you would realize why Vancouver took him over Beach.

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If you've ever seen Hodgson play then you would realize why Vancouver took him over Beach.
Comparing two unknowns is foolish.

It seems like half your posts concern the Blackhawks. Isn't one account enough for Gibson?

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Stalberg has a lot of potential..he is not nearly as big as buff but better hands and with a better team surrounding him he could really shine I think.

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Stalberg has a lot of potential..he is not nearly as big as buff but better hands and with a better team surrounding him he could really shine I think.
He had 9 goals in 40 games on a bad Leafs team last year. Its not crazy to think he could put up 20 on the Hawks this year.

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Noone. There isn't anyone on the roster who can. Beach's style of agitation is more similar to Eager than Buff. He'll hit,yap and piss teams off but he doesn't have the physical attributes to intimidate and dominate like Buff does. More talent, sure, but a different type of impact. I don't think there's any guarantee Buff himself repeats last years performance should he even make the PO's, as much as I would have liked to keep him.

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One of Bickell or Brouwer need to step up and replace Buff. It's possible that they will as the opportunity is clearly there for both of them.

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John Scott:

we do wonders with big ass guys that play defense and offense! You just never know...not many thought much of Buff barely a year ago, let alone his days at Prince George in the WHL...

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Between the cap and the common perception that NCAA success doesn't translate to NHL success, I don't really think he'll make the team this year, but I think Ben Smith would step up big time for the playoffs.

I really can't wait to see him next year. Hawks or Hogs, I'll have an easier time watching him next year than I did when he was at BC.
Good call, Smith had some big games at important times over his career at BC. Wouldn't be the size/physical presence that Buff was obviously, but I agree he could be a guy who elevates his game like Buff did the last couple playoffs. He's also a little older at 22 years old than some of the other new guys coming in, like Beach, so he might be closer to making the team than it seems.

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John Scott:

we do wonders with big ass guys that play defense and offense! You just never know...not many thought much of Buff barely a year ago, let alone his days at Prince George in the WHL...
John Scott isn't paid to play hockey. Comparing him with an unmotivated yet immensely talented physical specimen is foolish.

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Well I don't thin either BROUWER or BICKELL has the soft hands BUFF gave us from in front of the crease when bothering opposing goalies on screens on the PP...I don't thin Broiwer can take the abuse BUF did standing right in front screening the goalie back to the goalie--I see Brouwer more as a side screener and BICKELL might be able t take the abuse back to the goalie directly in front but he tends to lack BUFF's patience for staying in the exact same spot (perhaps he can be taught that parking there means stay put). Bickell does have a good shot though and I think he gets it away better than Buff did on the longer shot (Buff would tend to carry it more skating to get an absloute cleaere shot which often never materialized)...However whrther either BICKELL or BROUWER get any PP time is the question..They may be wanting to give HOSSA more 1st unit PP time -if so with kane on the other wing and Toews centering,there is no spot for Bickell or Brouwer to do a front of the net park and stay ...Rather there could be more pasing among the forwards to get a one timer off as opposed to a shot from the point for the park in front of the net screener to tip in,screen so it goes in,or cash in a rebound.

ALAS we may be abandoning the HOLMSTROM/FRANZEN park and stay screen type '
for the some guy better be brett Hull and one time from the circle (Kane or Hossa) type. If it doesn't work,they can g to Plan B and hope BICKLL or BROUWER can duplicate BUFF in that aapect--but honestly I think PLAN A had better work.

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John Scott isn't paid to play hockey. Comparing him with an unmotivated yet immensely talented physical specimen is foolish.
......hence the ya never know...

...and not many remotely thought Buff was immensely talented player barely a year ago. Notice his draft position....he was a project that turned out. Not saying John Scott has the tools Buff does, but you give a guy a chance and even a Bob Probert can net 30 goals....alls I'm sayin...

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......hence the ya never know...

...and not many remotely thought Buff was immensely talented player barely a year ago. Notice his draft position....he was a project that turned out. Not saying John Scott has the tools Buff does, but you give a guy a chance and even a Bob Probert can net 30 goals....alls I'm sayin...
You, of all people, should have recognized it, Mr. I-think-I'm-some-kind-of-USA-hockey-scout.

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No one can replace Buff. We don't have a "Luongo killer" anymore.
Bwahahahaha!!! ....................

But seriously, if my years of being a Canuck fan hold true, that will likely be John Scott - if he is converted to forward. He has definite potential to become a Canuck killer, he's already broke Bolduc's face.

I could see Atlanta tanking and Chicago re-acquiring Byfuglien, though.

GL, next season.

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Bwahahahaha!!! ....................

But seriously, if my years of being a Canuck fan hold true, that will likely be John Scott - if he is converted to forward. He has definite potential to become a Canuck killer, he's already broke Bolduc's face.

I could see Atlanta tanking and Chicago re-acquiring Byfuglien, though.

GL, next season.
I don't think we can afford him even at the deadline unless we send back a guy making over $1M. From what I understand if we make it through the season with our current roster we can add $2.5M at the deadline assuming Beach isn't on the team.

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......hence the ya never know...

...and not many remotely thought Buff was immensely talented player barely a year ago. Notice his draft position....he was a project that turned out. Not saying John Scott has the tools Buff does, but you give a guy a chance and even a Bob Probert can net 30 goals....alls I'm sayin...
I certainly knew that Byfuglien had the tools to be that player. Just had no desire/brain.

I am willing to bet any amount of real dollars that John Scott never cracks ten goals in the NHL. Five would be an absolute miracle.

You are horribly under-selling the ability of Probert/Byfuglien.

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Isnt Buff ir-replaceable? I mean the guy was DOMINANT during the post season....

Only real chance of replacing him is to bring him back when he is a RFA next year

maybe get rid of huet and campbell and w the NHL investigating hossas damm contract again, the hawks may have a good shot at signing some of their old players back...ie BUFF

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We don't need the next Buff.

Buff stepped up his game in the POs. Maybe Dowell does that and scores some goals like Druce or Pisani

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I think people are in for a rude awakening in Atlanta.

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Between the cap and the common perception that NCAA success doesn't translate to NHL success, I don't really think he'll make the team this year, but I think Ben Smith would step up big time for the playoffs.

I really can't wait to see him next year. Hawks or Hogs, I'll have an easier time watching him next year than I did when he was at BC.
Good call on that one. This kid is thoroughly impressive. I don't know exactly what it is about him... he just has 'it'. I hope he'll make his name known in a big way next year. I'm very excited to see what the future has for him.

Edit: I think Bickell could be our next Buff. If he just realizes how big he is and stays physical like he did this year in the playoffs, he could be a one man wrecking crew. They're kinda similar in some ways... both very big guys who seem to forget how big they really are. Both have questionable work ethics/consistency problems. Both have pretty decent speed for big guys. Buff had a wicked slapshot and Bicks has a wicked wrister.

Bickell already exceeded Buff's production (when on the Hawks) in his rookie year. If he can put it all together consistently, he could be just as important to our team or more than Buff.


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