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05-19-2011, 03:37 PM
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Should Gilroy get a QO?

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/ran...ew-matt-gilroy

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The Rangers may have seen enough from Gilroy to want to keep him, but there are significant mitigating factors, namely the fact that as a restricted free agent, it will take a $2.1 million qualifying offer to retain his negotiating rights. With the Rangers feeling confident that they will be set with their top two pairs for years to come, more blue line prospects in the system and limited cap room to take care of their other restricted free agents and try to acquire outside help, $2.1 million is a big number for a player who turns 27 in July and has made a limited impact in two NHL seasons.
I would give him 2.1. He can be traded if V-tank is ready.

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for 2.1?

absolutely not

i dont think a team on the planet would pay that much for him

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I would give him 2.1. He can be traded if V-tank is ready.
Who's going to trade for him at $2.1m per?

On a personal level I like the kid, it seems he has comraderie with the team. But his play, while improved, does not warant taking up $2.1m of our cap space when 1) We are oozing defensive depth and 2) we need that cap space to sign our core players and somehow upgrade at least one forward position to someone who can score at will.

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He should get what Fedetenko got for his tryout... what was that, 1mil/yr?

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Offer him $1 million, take it or leave it.... 3rd pairing marginal defensemen is not worth $2 or $2.1 mil....

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Who's going to trade for him at $2.1m per?

On a personal level I like the kid, it seems he has comraderie with the team. But his play, while improved, does not warant taking up $2.1m of our cap space when 1) We are oozing defensive depth and 2) we need that cap space to sign our core players and somehow upgrade at least one forward position to someone who can score at will.

Agree.

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Who's going to trade for him at $2.1m per?

On a personal level I like the kid, it seems he has comraderie with the team. But his play, while improved, does not warant taking up $2.1m of our cap space when 1) We are oozing defensive depth and 2) we need that cap space to sign our core players and somehow upgrade at least one forward position to someone who can score at will.
Just cut him lose? So how much we'd save? 1 million? For that we want to have vacant both #5 and #6 spots? We are not keeping McCabe, are we? Ds are not cheap. 2.1 is not much, there will be suitors, I'm sure, if we deside eventually to move him.

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Offer him $1 million, take it or leave it....
It's not how CBA works.

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It's not how CBA works.
They can do it though. They don't qualify him, he becomes a FA, and we can still offer him less than his qualifying offer, no? If another team wants to overpay him to fill a 3rd pairing role, then I say let them.

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It's not how CBA works.
We don't have to qualify him, its doubtful some other team will particularly offer him more then that, so he can resign with us at a lower rate as a FA. He came to NY over other teams in the first place.. I doubt he wants to leave.

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2 years 3M. Take it or leave it.

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2 years 3M. Take it or leave it.

1.5 per? I don't know if I'd even go that high. I'd offer him 2/2.

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Instead of qualifying him at 2.1, we could also agree to any contract with him. It could be for $5Million a year, it could be for league minimum. If Gilroy accepts it, then it doesn't matter what his QO is supposed to be. I think he will eventually agree to a 2 year deal worth less than what he got this year. 2 years, $2.5-2.8? Is that enough to get him? Is it too much for a bottom pair/7th defenseman?

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2.1? For Gilroy? That'd be a major waste of cap space.

1m max. He's a 3rd pairing defensemen whose negatives outweigh his positives. I'd rather just not sign him at all.

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Just cut him lose? So how much we'd save? 1 million? For that we want to have vacant both #5 and #6 spots? We are not keeping McCabe, are we? Ds are not cheap. 2.1 is not much, there will be suitors, I'm sure, if we deside eventually to move him.
fringe NHL bottom pairing dmen are, in fact, pretty cheap

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isnt this the same guy that didnt dress for long stretches last season and when he did play, he frequently looked like wade redden in a gilroy jersey.

and was he not being discussed as a 4th line winger at the end of the year.

if we resign this goof for 2.1 i will be......um....er....... i will not be surprised.

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Gilroy's biggest strength right now is that he's a right-handed defenseman.... The 2 players that would otherwise be most likely to bounce him out of the 3rd pairing (MDZ & Valentenko) are both left-handed. If Gilroy plays for us next season, it will most likely be due to that. Beyond that, the guy isn't particularly strong in any area of the ice, so his contributions could be replaced easily.

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1 million per or get lost Gilroy

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Just cut him lose? So how much we'd save? 1 million? For that we want to have vacant both #5 and #6 spots? We are not keeping McCabe, are we? Ds are not cheap. 2.1 is not much, there will be suitors, I'm sure, if we deside eventually to move him.
Saving one million come august could potentially mean having the space to sign Feds or not. Do you want Feds who can actually play and produce while playing third line minutes or gilroy? The caps going to be tight this summer and space doesn't need to be wasted, especially when we gave such good defensive depth and plenty of cheaper possibly better options in vtank,kundratek and maybe even pashnin.

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Two guys I don't want to see next year are Christensen and Gilroy. He won't be making 2.1 next year, negotiate a cheaper deal or let him test free agency.

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No way you give him a QO. He's worth 1M tops and that extra ~1m is gonna help a lot with filling some of the team's holes.

I still hold to my RFA predictions:
Boyle (if brought back) gets 1M
Dubinsky gets 3.8M/yr
Callahan gets 3.3M/yr
Anisimov gets 1.8M/yr
Sauer gets 1.3M/yr

Gilroy doesn't get a qualifying offer and either re-signs as an FA at 1M, or signs somewhere else for more money. If he doesn't want to take that big of a pay cut there are other options for a bottom pairing defenseman.

Eminger is good as gone most likely though. Don't see him even getting 1M to come back, and that would be overpaying.

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Dubinsky gets 3.8M/yr
Callahan gets 3.3M/yr
Dubinsky making more than Callahan?

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I still hold to my RFA predictions:
Boyle (if brought back) gets 1.5M
Dubinsky gets 3.5-4M/yr
Callahan gets 3.5-4M/yr
Anisimov gets 1.8M/yr
Sauer gets 1.5M/yr
I think that those are my RFA predictions (and Cally and Dubi will get the same salary).

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Dubinsky making more than Callahan?
Dubinsky should and will make more than Callahan I think

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2.1? For Gilroy? That'd be a major waste of cap space.

1m max. He's a 3rd pairing defensemen whose negatives outweigh his positives. I'd rather just not sign him at all.
trade him or waive him hoping someone claims him. no resign to resign him at a much overvalue than he actually is. 850,000 take it or leave it..no way he is worth 1 mil. then Sauer must be worth 3.0 per then..

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My Predictions


Boyle gets 1.4 per year 2 year deal
Dubinsky gets 3.5 per year 4 year deal
Callahan gets 3.7 per year 4 year deal
Anisimov gets 2.0 per year 3 year deal


i like Boyle but his value hasnt been higher, maybe the rangers can try to get something for him that can help the team. i dont want him dealt unless its a steal

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