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06-02-2011, 12:47 AM
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What Exactly Happened to Alexandre Daige?

Saw this vid on oilersnation and got to thinking... this guy was the real deal (listen to the comparisons from the commentators - sounds like Bobby Mac) that turned into a total failure.

What happened? And what are the chances of that happening again, especially at the worst possible time - when the Oil are drafting first......


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06-02-2011, 12:48 AM
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He didn't care enough about being a professional hockey player.

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06-02-2011, 12:53 AM
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I wouldn't say that a 10 year NHL career with 300+ points is a total failure. He was a disappointment, yes, but Scott Scissons is he not.

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Saw this vid on oilersnation and got to thinking... this guy was the real deal (listen to the comparisons from the commentators - sounds like Bobby Mac) that turned into a total failure.

What happened? And what are the chances of that happening again, especially at the worst possible time - when the Oil are drafting first......
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06-02-2011, 01:06 AM
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There wasn't a lot of psychological assessment back then, and much more reliance on stat tracking than actually watching the games.

With a much greater scouting services, the internet bringing information much faster, and many many divergance of opinions, I doubt there will be a #1 bust like that any time soon.

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06-02-2011, 01:18 AM
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He didn't care enough about being a professional hockey player.
Bingo. It was all about attitude with Daigle.

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06-02-2011, 01:19 AM
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He didn't care enough about being a professional hockey player.
That's basically it. Junior was really easy so he was fine with being a hockey player. Once he got to the NHL things weren't so easy and he didn't care enough to put the work in.

He was a very talented hockey player that didn't love playing hockey. What can you do?

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06-02-2011, 01:20 AM
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There wasn't a lot of psychological assessment back then, and much more reliance on stat tracking than actually watching the games.

With a much greater scouting services, the internet bringing information much faster, and many many divergance of opinions, I doubt there will be a #1 bust like that any time soon.
I wouldn't say that...the NFL does a lot of tests during their combine, including psychological, intelligence, athletic, etc...but they still came out with someone like Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf. Although in their cases I think attitude and the sense of self-entitlement had a lot to do with it.

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06-02-2011, 01:40 AM
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I'm gonna venture to guess I'll be one of only a handful (if anyone else) who gets the Kinks reference.

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lacked heart
got too much money too quickly
never understood teamwork and failed to understand that he pissed off the hockey gods

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the one thing that I remember is when one talking head said something like "I hope talent can back up the ego"

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Every time you hear a kid at the draft this year say something like "Getting drafted doesn't guarantee anything, I still have to work hard", it's because their agent and/or coaches told them about Daigle.

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06-02-2011, 06:51 AM
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There was something wrong with the kid. I recall an interview where he said he never wanted to be a hockey player, and that Ottawa didn't do their due diligence, because if they would have asked him he would have told them so. This interview was after any expectations of him being a player were pretty much given up for dead.

I don't exactly know what the kid wanted to do... become an astronaut? He wasn't playing with a full deck, he actually sounded resentful that hockey took up so much of his life but he did say he enjoyed the money.

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He scored 88 points in 131 games as an 18-19-20 year-old on a last-place team, including 12 points in his first 6 career games. There was talent there. Everything went to crap in his third season and he never regained traction.

For fans who don't remember him, he was sort of like the 1990s hockey version of Reggie Bush; he got to the big show and everyone was fast, so he couldn't play the same style of game that had got him there. He had to deal with traffic in a way he never had to in junior.

Rather than push through it, he kind of threw his arms up in the air and said "so much for that." He had no desire whatsoever. I watched him play a few games in junior (WJC), and saw a few Ottawa games. He was obviously world-class on talent alone. He could have been a Pat Lafontaine calibre player.

A lot of people cite Ottawa's management for basically providing unconditional love when what he needed was to be challenged. I'm of the opinion that his fatal flaw was psychological in nature, and he would have busted no matter where he ended up or how he was handled.

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On the surface from the outside (as in not a Sens fan) looking in. It looked like to me a lot of it was a real lack of heart, drive, humility about his abilities and the hard work it takes even if you are talented.

Sort of like Jason Bonsignore.

I kind of wonder if these guys are what spurred on the background, family checks and constant comprehensive interview processes that we see today. Not to mention at the Combine they make they work hard physically etc... as well. No one wants to make that mistake like they have in the past when those high picks are so important and you have millions in salary riding on them. I think the whole scouting process all the way through has changed over the years. I often wonder if those players like above came along today if their stop would start to plummet? Brings to mind a guy like Angelo Esposito ranked by many going into his draft year as 1st overall and then he took a nose dive about 20 spots in the draft.

By the way Esposito's AHL stats from this past season:
57gp 3g 10a 13 points

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Didn't he end up in Hollywood do some kind of crap? It's not like he didn't start off all that bad.

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He wanted to be an actor, his dream was Hollywood and that's no joke.

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There hasn't been a number one overall bust in a decade (I don't think). I wouldn't worry about it.

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I would say being thrown to the wolves his first few years on an absolutely dreadful team didn't help matters too much either.

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I think the photo shoot with him wearing the nurse's uniform was the beginning of his downfall....

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I'm gonna venture to guess I'll be one of only a handful (if anyone else) who gets the Kinks reference.
Here too. Kinda shows our age though


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I'm gonna venture to guess I'll be one of only a handful (if anyone else) who gets the Kinks reference.
"Girl, I want you here with me "

Or not.

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Here too. Kinda shows our age though

Actually, I'm only 21. I just love The Kinks, haha.

Edit: Also, where is Dave in that video!?

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There was something wrong with the kid. I recall an interview where he said he never wanted to be a hockey player, and that Ottawa didn't do their due diligence, because if they would have asked him he would have told them so. This interview was after any expectations of him being a player were pretty much given up for dead.

I don't exactly know what the kid wanted to do... become an astronaut? He wasn't playing with a full deck, he actually sounded resentful that hockey took up so much of his life but he did say he enjoyed the money.
From what i remember hearing he wanted to be a movie star, and the NHL was just a stepping stone. He would have been perfect for lead role in a movie called "Bust in the Wind"

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