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06-06-2011, 11:19 AM
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Tyler Kennedy

What could Pittsbugh fetch if they traded TK's rights?

How far could we move up if we package Kennedy with pick #23 at the draft?

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06-06-2011, 11:22 AM
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22.5...

really he doesn't have much value at all. you won't get anything for him i.m.h.o.

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06-06-2011, 11:26 AM
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really he doesn't have much value at all. you won't get anything for him i.m.h.o.
Young 20 goalscorers who work their bollocks off every shift have absolutely no value, agreed.

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06-06-2011, 11:45 AM
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really he doesn't have much value at all. you won't get anything for him i.m.h.o.
You should actually watch players play before forming an opinion.

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really he doesn't have much value at all. you won't get anything for him i.m.h.o.
Maybe if he was a ufa, but hes restricted.

Rumor is his side and shero are far apart in talks. Id be curious to what a tk/niskanen package could bring.

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06-06-2011, 11:47 AM
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really he doesn't have much value at all. you won't get anything for him i.m.h.o.
I'll put a check here beside '******** people say without watching people play' and just move on.


Hopefully it doesn't come to this. TFK is a damn nice asset to have, even if he is a tweener.

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It's difficult to say what his offensive upside is. For the most part he's been part of a successful third line for the Pens, but that also limits his offensive opportunities. Last year, with all the injuries to the big guns, TK was given a bit more of a "scoring role", and responded with his first 20+ goal season of his career, proving he can be a 20-goal scorer in this league.

At the moment, I'd put Kennedy as that type of player who is somewhere between a second and third liner. He's tenacious enough to play on a checking line, but also has enough offensive upside to play on a scoring line.

This season, if he's re-signed, could be a huge one for him. He'll likely be given a shot beside either Crosby or Malkin, so that could mean a 25+ goal season (assuming he stays healthy) for him. So hopefully he and the Pens can come to some sort of agreement. A right-handed shooting winger who can skate (ie. keep up with Sid) and who can pot 20 or so goals is exactly where the Pens are at their weakest.

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06-06-2011, 12:11 PM
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Versteeg got a 1st and a 3rd. I'm guessing Kennedy would get something similar; probably a bit less.

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06-06-2011, 12:23 PM
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He won't be traded. You don't trade away young, fast, cheap 20 goal wingers. Especially when he's our only natural RW who can score.

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06-06-2011, 12:34 PM
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He won't be traded. You don't trade away young, fast, cheap 20 goal wingers. Especially when he's our only natural RW who can score.
You do if he wants to be paid more than hes worth, something shero will never do.

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06-06-2011, 12:35 PM
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Should I move this to the Pens board , we're the only ones posting in here.

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06-06-2011, 12:40 PM
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Should I move this to the Pens board , we're the only ones posting in here.
No!

MBP is a lot like Scottie Upshall, IMO. A solid tweener on the 2nd/3rd line, that is better suited on the latter, but can fill in for the former. For the Pens, they can't afford to give him up, especially with their lack of depth on the wing. He's young, should be cheap, and is versatile.

EDIT: BUT, if he outprices Shero, then I could see him being dealt for something similar to what Versteeg got...by that, I mean, a late 1st.

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06-06-2011, 12:53 PM
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Versteeg got a 1st and a 3rd. I'm guessing Kennedy would get something similar; probably a bit less.
Versteeg has three proven seasons of being a 3rd liner that can score near top 6 numbers, kennedy has one. Wouldn't be wise to trade him for a package of picks, when you would get less than a 1st and 3rd. Maybe trade him for A.kostitsyn(sp?) to the habs if you want an ugrade? Or just keep him. Who wouldn't want a sterotypical "grinder" that can score 20 goals.

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06-06-2011, 01:00 PM
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Versteeg has three proven seasons of being a 3rd liner that can score near top 6 numbers, kennedy has one. Wouldn't be wise to trade him for a package of picks, when you would get less than a 1st and 3rd. Maybe trade him for A.kostitsyn(sp?) to the habs if you want an ugrade? Or just keep him. Who wouldn't want a sterotypical "grinder" that can score 20 goals.
Its not about whether we want to keep him. We do. If he wants too much money, hes not going to get it and we are forced to either move him soon, or take the compensation.

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06-06-2011, 01:25 PM
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What kind of coin is he looking for?

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06-06-2011, 01:26 PM
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What kind of coin is he looking for?
As far as I know, no numbers have leaked, just that talks aren't going too great. Still a bit early to say it's not going to work, though.

I would give him a bit of raise on a 1 year deal to let him prove he wasn't suffering from "Dick Tarnstrom Syndrom" last year. (DTS is when a player puts up bigger numbers due to being on a offensively challenged team, also known as Alexei Ponikarovsky Influenza)

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As far as I know, no numbers have leaked, just that talks aren't going too great. Still a bit early to say it's not going to work, though.
What do Pens fans consider fair?

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What do Pens fans consider fair?
Somewhere between between 1.5 and 2.

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Somewhere between between 1.5 and 2.
Agreed, he might be moved if he wants more than 2 million (though he's a gamble at that sort of price).

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Agreed, he might be moved if he wants more than 2 million (though he's a gamble at that sort of price).
Like I said, if it's anything north of 1.5, I would hope..and expect given Shero's history...it wouldn't be any longer than a year.

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Like I said, if it's anything north of 1.5, I would hope..and expect given Shero's history...it wouldn't be any longer than a year.
If they can't agree I could see a 1 year deal so he can try and prove he's worth more money.

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From a Pens perspective, IF we can't come to terms with Kennedy, he's a nice player for a lot of teams to pick up. Versteeg actually is a decent comparison for Kennedy IMO. Kennedy is not quite as proven at this time statistically but I'd say Versteeg has slightly more skill and Kennedy has more sandpaper to his game.

If Kennedy insists he won't take anything below 2-2.25 million, I'd say he will be shopped. You never know though, he certainly has performed better then people who have gotten more than that through arbitration.

EDIT: The one way route probably is the best way to go for everyone involved. Good call.

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Like I said, if it's anything north of 1.5, I would hope..and expect given Shero's history...it wouldn't be any longer than a year.
If he wanted a 2-3 year deal for 1.75 or 1.8 I'd be fine with that.

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A bit OT, has Shero ever taken anyone to arbitration? I can't seem to remember any of our RFA's going that route since he's taken over. Just doesn't seem to be his style.

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A bit OT, has Shero ever taken anyone to arbitration? I can't seem to remember any of our RFA's going that route since he's taken over. Just doesn't seem to be his style.
Good call. I'm going through it in my head now and I'm struggling to think of one.

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