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Based on updated and combined: CSS, ISS, TSR, HockeyProspects and McKeens rankings.

Avg RankRankPlayerPosition
1.01Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan Center
2.42Larsson, Adam Defenseman
3.63Landeskog, Gabriel Left Wing
4.04Huberdeau, Jonathan Center
6.25Couturier, Sean Center
8.86Hamilton, Dougie Defenseman
9.27Strome, Ryan Center
10.08Murphy, Ryan Defenseman
10.09Zibanejad, Mika Center
11.010Baertschi, Sven Left Wing
11.611Siemens, Duncan Defenseman
12.312Beaulieu, Nathan Defenseman
13.013Armia, Joel Right Wing
14.214McNeill, Mark Center
16.015Scheifele, Mark Center
17.016Oleksiak, Jamieson Defenseman
17.517Klefbom, OscarDefenseman
20.518Mayfield, Scott Defenseman
21.019Puempel, Matthew Left Wing
21.020Rattie, Ty Right Wing
22.621Grimaldi, Rocco Center
22.622Jensen, Nicklas Left Wing/Right Wing
23.023Jenner, Boone Center
23.824Brodin, JonasDefenseman
23.825Jurco, Tomas Right Wing
24.026Namestnikov, Vladislav Center
25.027Morrow, Joseph Defenseman
25.228Saad, Brandon Left Wing
25.329Biggs, Tyler Right Wing
26.330Miller, Jonathan Center
28.831Murphy, Connor Defenseman
29.032Jaskin, Dmitri Right Wing
30.033Phillips, Zack Center
32.334Khokhlachev, Alexander Left Wing/Center
32.835Rask, Victor Center
36.036Noesen, Stefan Right Wing
36.037Ritchie, Brett Right Wing
36.538Musil, David Defenseman
39.339Nieto, Matthew Left Wing
41.740Percy, Stuart Defenseman
42.341Catenacci, Daniel Center
43.042Ambroz, Seth Right Wing
43.343Sproul, Ryan Defenseman
44.344Lessio, Lucas Left Wing
44.845Danault, Phillip Left Wing
45.046Lucia, Mario Left Wing
45.047Rakell, Rickard Right Wing
46.048Edmundson, Joel Defenseman
47.049Kucherov, NikitaWing
48.350Shaw, Logan Right Wing
48.351Clendening, Adam Defenseman
49.552Wotherspoon, Tyler Defenseman
51.053St. Croix, Michael Center
52.054Russo, Robbie Defenseman
55.355Scarlett, Reece Defenseman
57.056Jacobs, ColinCenter
57.357Shore, Nicholas Center
58.058Boyce, JeremyLeft Wing
59.059Ouellet, Xavier Defenseman
59.360Prince, Shane Center


Maybe we have to add combine results to the rankings.

Example Clendening shows up in 9 top 10 lists on the combines.

http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=564812

As a rookie in University he wouldn't necessarily been given the best minutes. Maybe he was given the opportunity, but it isn't unusual for rookies in college to get less than stellar playing time.

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Tough call, they are both very different players. Let's just draft both.

Wouldn't that be something? I think Burke would be able to move up for one of them, but both would cost us a significant amount, unfortunately.

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If we want Matt Puempel I think the one team we need to jump in front of is Pittsburgh at 23. That team seems like a good fit for Puempel.
Well that's only 2 spots. If Burke moves the 25th and 39th, we should be able to get into the 16-19 range.

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I think Ryan Strome is a bust. TBH.

He's the one FWD in the consensus top 10 that I would pass on. He's soft and I really don't like his game.
Strome is Kadri 2.0

I don't think he will bust but at the same time he won't be a 'superstar' people on this board make him out to be.

The thing that worries me about Strome is that he played on a VERY GOOD TEAM and some times that can hide his flaws, especially statistically.

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Wouldn't that be something? I think Burke would be able to move up for one of them, but both would cost us a significant amount, unfortunately.



Well that's only 2 spots. If Burke moves the 25th and 39th, we should be able to get into the 16-19 range.
I agree. I am really hoping we can land one of McNeil or Puempel. Obviously the latter being more realistic. One of those 2 would be great to have in the organization.

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For all the Strome fans he's in Ottawa

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Wouldn't that be something? I think Burke would be able to move up for one of them, but both would cost us a significant amount, unfortunately.



Well that's only 2 spots. If Burke moves the 25th and 39th, we should be able to get into the 16-19 range.
25th+39th for 16th seems like a bit of a stretch, 18-19 seem reasonable in this draft.

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I read something by Richard Cloutier that said Columbus was looking for a 1st, 2nd, and another asset for their 8th overall.

Burke has already stated he's willing to package the 1st and 2nd.... Hopefully he's on top of this and can have us drafting 8th overall and 29th overall.

If that was the case, I'd be hoping for Mika Zebanajad at #8. He could very-well develop into a #1 center with the right developing.

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Strome is Kadri 2.0

I don't think he will bust but at the same time he won't be a 'superstar' people on this board make him out to be.

The thing that worries me about Strome is that he played on a VERY GOOD TEAM and some times that can hide his flaws, especially statistically.
Nazem Kadri played on an EVEN BETTER team in his draft year. Playing with players such as JOHN TAVARES in his draft year.

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I read something by Richard Cloutier that said Columbus was looking for a 1st, 2nd, and another asset for their 8th overall.

Burke has already stated he's willing to package the 1st and 2nd.... Hopefully he's on top of this and can have us drafting 8th overall and 29th overall.

If that was the case, I'd be hoping for Mika Zebanajad at #8. He could very-well develop into a #1 center with the right developing.
I'm not sure about Columbus' money situation, but maybe a trade like this could be worked out:

To Toronto
Mike Commodore
8th Overall

To Columbus
29th overall
39th overall
Carl Gunnarsson/Tyler Bozak
Toronto 2nd 2012
Conditional 2nd 2013 (depending if the 8th overall pick plays 60+ games in two years)

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I agree. I am really hoping we can land one of McNeil or Puempel. Obviously the latter being more realistic. One of those 2 would be great to have in the organization.
Agreed, I think either one could be a steal, and I would be thrilled to have either.

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25th+39th for 16th seems like a bit of a stretch, 18-19 seem reasonable in this draft.
You're right, it is a stretch, but you never know. I was just providing a bit of a larger range because as we know, surprises happen.

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I'm not sure about Columbus' money situation, but maybe a trade like this could be worked out:

To Toronto
Mike Commodore
8th Overall

To Columbus
29th overall
39th overall
Carl Gunnarsson/Tyler Bozak
Toronto 2nd 2012
Conditional 2nd 2013 (depending if the 8th overall pick plays 60+ games in two years)
What?!

No.

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I'm not sure about Columbus' money situation, but maybe a trade like this could be worked out:

To Toronto
Mike Commodore
8th Overall

To Columbus
29th overall
39th overall
Carl Gunnarsson/Tyler Bozak
Toronto 2nd 2012
Conditional 2nd 2013 (depending if the 8th overall pick plays 60+ games in two years)
He said first, second, and another assest.... Lol.

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Based on Ulf's list, my choice would be using the Boston second to trade the 25th up to the 18-20 range or so, and draft either McNeill, Scheifele, or Jenner (ranked in that order), though it's tough to see McNeill or Scheifele being available. Then draft Biggs with the 29th and Percy with the 39th.

We add a skilled, decently sized center, a powerforward winger with plenty of grit, and a solid two-way defenseman.

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Strome is Kadri 2.0

I don't think he will bust but at the same time he won't be a 'superstar' people on this board make him out to be.

The thing that worries me about Strome is that he played on a VERY GOOD TEAM and some times that can hide his flaws, especially statistically.
If we get to 8 and he's around no doubt in my mind burke takes him.

If hes not then Zibanejad or a D men.

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He said first, second, and another assest.... Lol.
Tell me who reported.

Only way your getting Columbus' pick:
#1 C or REALLY good #2 - we don't have
Top pairing PMD - we don't have
Overpayment - We can do.

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I've read the Rangers are looking to move down in the draft. They have the 15th overall pick I believe right? Anyone else hear/read about this?

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I've read the Rangers are looking to move down in the draft. They have the 15th overall pick I believe right? Anyone else hear/read about this?
There was a proposal on the main board about the leafs 1st and two 2nds or something like that for the Rangers' 1st and Rangers fans were very receptive to it. It doesn't necessarily mean the Rangers are looking to move down, but it gives some indication that depth is as important as a quality pick when it comes to their prospect pool.

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1. RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS C 6'0 170 L Apr. 12/93 Red Deer WHL
2. JONATHAN HUBERDEAU C 6'1 168 L June 4/93 St John QMJHL
3. GABRIEL LANDESKOG LW 6'0 207L Nov. 23/92 Kitchener OHL
4. RYAN MURPHY D 5'10 176 R Mar. 31/93 Kitchener OHL
5. ADAM LARSSON D 6'3 200 R Nov. 12/92 Skelleftea SweE
6. MIKA ZIBANEJAD C 6'0 183 R Apr. 18/93 Djurgarden SJ18A
7. SEAN COUTURIER C 6'4 195 L Dec. 12/92 Drum QMJHL
8. NATHAN BEAULIEU D 6'1 176 L Dec. 5/92 St John QMJHL
9. RYAN STROME C 6'0 183 R July 11/93 Niagara OHL
10. JAMIESON OLEKSIAK D 6'7 244 L Dec. 21/92 N astern H.E,

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No McNeil? Interesting..

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I see Miller is in our range. He's got Zibanejad at 6 too?


And Strome at 9. If he was somehow still on the board at 10-12 i'd be hoping Burke finds a way to trade up.

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No McNeil? Interesting..
Yeah, that's kind of hard to believe. Overall it's not bad, but there definitely are some head scratchers in there.

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If Boston gets Strome at 9, then Imma be...


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Craig Button is a good analyst with a lot of insight on prospects.

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I'd really doubt they would take Strome. May too many young centres in their system. Seguin, Krejci, Bergeron, Hamill, etc.

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