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06-08-2011, 05:51 PM
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Philadelphia-Colorado/Edmonton

Operating under the assumption that the Flyers sign Bryzgalov to a long term deal(not exactly confident that they do), Bob is the odd man out. Keeping him would be a waste of a valuable asset, and both of these teams could use a young goaltender for the future. I'm not convinced Pickard or Roy is the answer for either team.

To -RW David Jones, D Tyson Barrie

To -G Sergei Bobrovsky

or

To -RW Linus Omark, LA 2nd 12

To -G Sergei Bobrovsky

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06-08-2011, 05:55 PM
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unfortunately, goalie prospects do not carry a whole lot of value by themselves, especially when there are others who might be available such as schneider and lindback. we'd be better off keeping him even if we sign bryz long term.

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06-08-2011, 05:56 PM
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No way.

How does Omark and a 2nd have the same value as Jones and Barrie?

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06-08-2011, 05:57 PM
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oilers take it and run
bob and duby for a tandum would be pretty nice

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Big NO from Col, how is that even comparable? Do you even know who Barrie and Jones are?

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I didn't think it was possible but this is worse then the Stastny proposals. Extremely lopsided proposal.

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Avs say no.

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oilers take it and run
bob and duby for a tandum would be pretty nice
I disagree, I'd pass from the Oiler's view. I like Omark a lot and I'm not sold on Bobrovsky. The Oil are stuck with Khabibulin for 2 more years, therefore the tandem is set here for the next 2 years. No reason or room to bring in another goalie.

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Bob isn't worth a 30 goal scorer, and a good PMD prospect.

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Well we don't have LA's 2nd in 2012 because they didn't win the cup this year, and I wouldn't trade Omark straight up for an unproven goalie. Not to mention Khabby isn't going anywhere and we can't run with 3 goalies again.

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Bob isn't worth a 30 goal scorer, and a good PMD prospect.
Jones isn't a 30 goal scorer.

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Jones isn't a 30 goal scorer.
No, but he's a 27 goal scorer which we'd like to keep. Barrie is also last years WHL defensemen of the year, and this years runner up, and was one of Canada's best defensemen at the WJC...Bobrovsky isn't worth close to this at all.

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06-08-2011, 06:43 PM
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Jones isn't a 30 goal scorer.
Bobrovsky isn't a 30 game winner.

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bob and duby for a tandum would be pretty nice
No they don't. We have plenty of goalie prospects and one solid starter in Dubnyk. We don't need more.


Philly would have to add for Omark alone

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Bobrovsky isn't a 30 game winner.
And?

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And?
He's not worth a 27 goal scorer (who was also said not to be a 30 goal scorer, hence my statement) and a solid PMD prospect.

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Operating under the assumption that the Flyers sign Bryzgalov to a long term deal(not exactly confident that they do), Bob is the odd man out. Keeping him would be a waste of a valuable asset, and both of these teams could use a young goaltender for the future. I'm not convinced Pickard or Roy is the
answer for either team.
To -RW David Jones, D Tyson Barrie
To -G Sergei Bobrovsky
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To -RW Linus Omark, LA
2nd 12
To -G Sergei
Bobrovsky
Lol, talk about over valuing Bob and undervaluing Jones and Barrie. I wouldn't even do Jones straight out. IMO Schneider is a better goalie and I'm sure we could have him for that deal

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I honestly don't think Bob is worth either of those packages. People on this site seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that goalies don't get big returns, especially goalies who have played 1 season in not just the NHL but North America

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I honestly don't think Bob is worth either of those packages. People on this site seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that goalies don't get big returns, especially goalies who have played 1 season in not just the NHL but North America
Exactly, for a look at return on goalies look at Halak. Bob had one mediocre year in NM, until now he was relatively unheard of. At least Schneider was dominant at every level before he joined the NHL, I'd definitely take him over Bob

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I agree that bob isnt worht those packages on top of that even if the flyers sign bryzgalov why is bob expendable? in a few years he coudl become the flyers starter or be worth even more in a trade no need to trade him right now

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I wouldn't give Jones OR Barrie for Bobrovsky.

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Jones isn't a 30 goal scorer.
No, but he did score 27 on a terrible team coming off ACL surgery. Avs need him now especially with Stewart gone.

Avs get hosed in this deal big time.

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I honestly don't think Bob is worth either of those packages. People on this site seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that goalies don't get big returns, especially goalies who have played 1 season in not just the NHL but North America
He's not. If Bryzgalov can't get a huge return, Bobrovsky certainly won't

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He's not. If Bryzgalov can't get a huge return, Bobrovsky certainly won't
Wait...what?

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I agree that bob isnt worht those packages on top of that even if the flyers sign bryzgalov why is bob expendable? in a few years he coudl become the flyers starter or be worth even more in a trade no need to trade him right now
His cap hit is pretty prohibitive for a guy playing 25 games, at least relative to what you can get for him and sign a guy like Boucher for 1/2 the amount.

Of course, this all assumes Bryzgalov is signed. If Goalie X with less of a cap hit on a shorter term deal is signed, then yeah, he gladly stays.

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