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06-08-2011, 08:58 PM
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The Oilers are infinitely better with Dubnyk starting and RNH our #1C than with Miller starting and Gagner our #1C. It is laughable unless you also throw Roy and Gagner in
You wouldn't trade the 1st overall pick for the best goalie in the league?

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06-08-2011, 09:00 PM
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I will bet my bottom dollar that the Blue Jackets are one of the team's that have made an offer for the 1st overall pick.

My guess is Ryan Johansen, 8th Overall Pick and possibly a prospect/player.
Don't you think that's a bit of overpayment? If the Blue Jacket GM, did this deal, he should be fired.

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06-08-2011, 09:00 PM
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But..but that pick is untouchable!!! Future NHL Datsyuk with Crosby combined!! Hopkins will be de best!!!

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first overall for Jeff Carter ++ ?



Taylor Hall and Jeff Carter would be magic together
Why do the Flyers have to add here? Carter turned 26 this year and has 115 goals in his past three seasons.

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06-08-2011, 09:01 PM
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You wouldn't trade the 1st overall pick for the best goalie in the league?
1) That's arguable and 2) Nope, we'd have the rights to RNH for 7 years.

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You wouldn't trade the 1st overall pick for the best goalie in the league?
Nope. Mostly because the best goalie in the league isn't on buffalo. Who do you think has a bigger impact for the Pens, Fleury or Crosby?

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I hope edmonton doesnt do this

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06-08-2011, 10:43 PM
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I'm not a Sens fan personally, but maybe something along the lines of:

To Oil:
#6 + Rundblad

To Sens:
#1 (RNH)

Sens get a much needed offensively talented forward in RNH, Spezza/RNH could be a great 1/2 punch at C that could really get their offense going. And while I'm sure the Sens are high on Rundblad they've already got Karlsson playing a similar role (not saying Rundblad is disposable, but for a piece like RNH I could see him being moved). Oilers get a very good dman prospect in Rundblad, and at #6 maybe they're shooting for a different top C prospect, someone like Couturier, Huberdeau, Zibanejad or Strome.
this is a distinct possibility.

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06-08-2011, 11:02 PM
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There's nothing out there that tells me RNH is 100% heads above anyone else in the top 5. Wouldnt make sense to trade the farm for him.

And lol @ runblad + 6th overall.
then you should open your eyes. Bob MacKenzie polled 15 scouts and 14 said RNH was the best player available and the 15th wouldn't comment(probably Stu). Go over to the prospects page and skim through the stickied threads from credible scouting reports

RNH is the only player that a vast majority of professionals have at #1

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I wouldn't trade Cowen's shaved face pubes for RNH.
That's fine. Oiler fans promise not to offer 1st overall if you promise to keep whatever it is you have planned with with Cowens face pubes to yourself. Deal?

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And if I'm Tambo I hang up laughing. Potential franchise Center with #1b as a downside is worth more than any goalie in the league
Could be the worst post I have ever read on here

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Nope. Mostly because the best goalie in the league isn't on buffalo. Who do you think has a bigger impact for the Pens, Fleury or Crosby?
Nevermind this could be the worst.

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This isn't really news. Every team listens to offers.

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I'm not a Sens fan personally, but maybe something along the lines of:

To Oil:
#6 + Rundblad

To Sens:
#1 (RNH)
I like this offer. Rundblad is a potential 1-2 d-man who's a little bit off of Larsson's upside. Plus we could move the #6, #31 and a 3rd to move back into the top-4 to pick either Huberdeau, Couturier or Landeskog.

Walking away with Huberdeau, Rundblad and whoever at #19 would be a pretty good day IMO.

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06-08-2011, 11:21 PM
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Nevermind this could be the worst.
how its a reasonable question to ask is it a star goalie that is best or a star center, most will take the center due to the fact you can acquire reasonable goalies in the free agent market

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I hope edmonton doesnt do this
they won't do this....it just for sale paper

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You wouldn't trade the 1st overall pick for the best goalie in the league?
No I would not what has Miller won on the Nhl level how far has he taken Buffalo and his salary and age factor. You can win a Cup with a competent goaltender you do not need the best to win it. A legit first line Potential franchise center is more Important. I would not trade a first Overall in a rebuilding phase for a Goalie who will soon be 31.

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06-08-2011, 11:32 PM
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how its a reasonable question to ask is it a star goalie that is best or a star center, most will take the center due to the fact you can acquire reasonable goalies in the free agent market
Exactly. Just because hes extremely talented doesn't mean he's going to get a kings ransom. Look at the teams that needed a #1C and the teams that needed a #1 goalie and see who payed less to fill that need(Look at what Vancouver got Luongo for)

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1st overall
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R. Ellis + Young Roster player

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I dont believe for a second he's going to trade that pick. He's just trying to get attention on his team and build excitement leading into the draft before he pick Ryan Nugent Hopkins.

As for people saying the number 1 pick isnt worth Ryan Miller you people are out to lunch and you probably should stay there. Miller is one of the best goalies in the NHL and could instantly improve the Oilers. Yes you need a number 1 center but you also need goaltending and defense someone might want to tell the Oilers GM that btw just so he can make a note of it. And there is no guarentee that Hopkins is going to develop into a number 1 center. Miller has proven how good he is.

PS if a number 1 center was sooooo important to the Oilers then they should have taken Seguin at the draft.

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I dont believe for a second he's going to trade that pick. He's just trying to get attention on his team and build excitement leading into the draft before he pick Ryan Nugent Hopkins.

As for people saying the number 1 pick isnt worth Ryan Miller you people are out to lunch and you probably should stay there. Miller is one of the best goalies in the NHL and could instantly improve the Oilers. Yes you need a number 1 center but you also need goaltending and defense someone might want to tell the Oilers GM that btw just so he can make a note of it. And there is no guarentee that Hopkins is going to develop into a number 1 center. Miller has proven how good he is.
you are right,

Miller is worth more than the first, not only value wise....but to the team....He means so much to Buffalo that it would take a already established goalie (and elite) and something frilly attached to it. For them not to laugh.

And you may say im insane, but take any goalie in the league and add your best prospect. And i doubt Buffalo stays on the line. He means that much. (yes, that could be Lundqvist + Kreider,) it aint the value, .....im sure its there, but u arent prying the heart and soul.

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Tambo made this EXACT same statement last year, yet I didn't remember 10+ threads talking about it. I can't remember if it got this much attention last year?

Anyways, all PR garbage from our GM who loves the attention. He wants fans to know he is doing his job, listening to every offer, and then will make a pick since no team will give us what we would need to consider moving the pick.

If we believe everything Tambo says, then we would all believe they decided to take Hall last year the day before the draft.

He says garbage like 4-5 guys could go #1, mostly because he could see an argument for 4 guys being the top guy on any given list and that 4-5 guys came into the discussion, but at the end of the day it's pretty obvious they have one guy in mind already that they have ahead of everyone else, and IMO that's 95% RNH.

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Why are Sens fans so bitter?

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Anyone who says Kadri has #1C potential is obviously oblivious that every player at any level has #1C Potential....Hey LEAFERS, Colin Fraser has #1C potential!

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Why are Sens fans so bitter?
I wouldn't lump them all together but there definitely are a select few that are very vocal and making the fan base come across as bitter.

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Anyone who says Kadri has #1C potential is obviously oblivious that every player at any level has #1C Potential....Hey LEAFERS, Colin Fraser has #1C potential!
Has anyone in this thread said that?

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Oh my god.... TSN mentions that Edmonton will listen to offers for the first overall pick and then every hick comes crawling up to give their two cents.

Why would Edmonton trade the first overall pick for a "fair" package? They're still lacking in proven top end talent and drafting first overall is a nearly fail-proof way to draft a star.

At the last draft Tambolini was trying to get Boston to give up the 2nd overall pick for Hemsky, a prospect not playing in the NHL who wasn't Eberle and some scraps.

I'm sure Bruins fans were laughing their ***** off at the idea.
At the last trade deadline L.A was trying to get Hemsky and Tambolini wanted Schenn and L.A then targeted Penner.

If it isn't clear to you guys now, Tambolini has sent the message out that Edmontons important assets aren't going anywhere unless Edmonton is getting a damn good package in return.

The only lateral move Tambolini has made is trading Visnovsky for Whitney and a 6th rounder. Lubo wanted out and Edmonton wanted more size on their blueline so the deal made sense.

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To Toronto:
1st Overall
19th Overall
Martin Marincin


To Edmonton
Luke Schenn
Nazem Kadri
29th Overall
85th Overall

Thoughts? ;D;D;D;D

How is that not trolling? A stay at home d-man(which Edmonton doesn't need), a potential 2nd line center, a late 1st rounder and a 3rd rounder in exchange for 1st overall, a mid 1st rounder and a good prospect?

How is that not trolling? What a horrid proposal. Quantity doesn't equal quality. This phrase has been said thousands of times on these boards and I guess it needs to be said thousands more.
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To Edmonton - Dan Girardi, Brian Boyle, Carl Hagein and Kundratek

To Rangers - 1st overall pick

Thoughts?

Edmonton gets a #2 d-man, a big bottom six forward and some left over scraps. Screw quality... there isn't even quantity in this one.

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1st Overall
Ales Hemsky
19th Overall

Matt Duchene
11th Overall

Edmonton gives their best foward, 1st and 19th overall for a player who's gonna be a 1A/1B center and 11th overall.

Why would Edmonton do this? Who's to say that Hopkins won't turn into a 1A center? I think it's fair to say that Duchene and Hopkins are a wash, so why the hell is Edmonton going to cough up 19th + Hemsky for 11th overall?

If Edmonton took out 19th overall it would be an OK deal, but I don't see why Colorado would want to get rid of Duchene.

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I'm not a Sens fan personally, but maybe something along the lines of:

To Oil:
#6 + Rundblad

To Sens:
#1 (RNH)
Seriously? SERIOUSLY?

I couldn't see Edmonton trading 1st overall straight up for one of Brayden Schenn, Ryan Johansen or Oliver Ekman-Larsson. Why on earth would they trade 1st overall straight up for Rundblad?

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Rundblad + 21st pick from Ottawa.

EDIT: Or 6th overall + 21st overall + 35th overall.
Again. Quality > Quantity when your team is in the situation that Edmonton and Florida. Edmonton can't afford to make deals like this until they've got enough proven high end talent. On top of this, it's my opinion that there isn't enough quantity to get Edmonton to tune in. Maybe replace 35th with Cowen and the value would be closer.

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My guess is Ryan Johansen, 8th Overall Pick and possibly a prospect/player.
I'm 99% sure that Columbus wouldn't pay that much. I just don't think they can afford to with the pool of prospects they're sporting these days. There's no way Edmonton could turn that down.

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R. Ellis + Young Roster player

What did you say? Ellis + Blum + two first rounders and rights to Radulov? We'll think about it.

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Why are Sens fans so bitter?
My best guess is because they(well, we) had no idea that the Heatley deal would've turned out that badly.

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I wouldn't lump them all together but there definitely are a select few that are very vocal and making the fan base come across as bitter.
It doesn't help when a couple Oiler fans come in and goat them into an even bigger argument The thread is 1 troll away from "my dad can beat up your dad and he makes more than yours too".

Anyways, 1st overall is up for grabs, just like any pick at any time, for the right price. We are not shopping the pick, simply doing our due diligence and fielding calls on the value of the pick.

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