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06-10-2011, 04:24 PM
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Come on guys -- I like Anisimov as much as the next Ranger fan, but he isn't better than Weiss as of now.

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I respect Dru as a player. Obviously his performance was underwhelming and couldn't live up to his salary. He was a good warrior for us and he did shine in some spots.

Also, am I the only one who is thinking that he'll end up back in Buffalo on a 2 year deal.
Call me crazy, but I can see him winding up with the Islanders on a cheap deal.

Doesnt have to uproot his family, Doug Weight just retired so he could fill that mentor role, and hes pretty much guaranteed a job with the organization when he retires.

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Come on guys -- I like Anisimov as much as the next Ranger fan, but he isn't better than Weiss as of now.
Ok true, maybe I'm just being annoying. I just really don't want Weiss. And I value Anisimov more than him as of now.

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06-10-2011, 05:06 PM
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Darren Dreger was on NHL Live today. He said there is more going on behind the scenes with Drury. His Rangers source told him its a very complicated situation. The source was evasive. Its a near certainty Drury has played his last game as a Ranger. Then Hradek and Pidto wondered if there was an injury involved but Dreger did not know. Then Dreger speculated,Drury may get bought out in the 2nd buyout period. Its not as cut and dried as the previous reports indicated.

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Darren Dreger was on NHL Live today. He said there is more going on behind the scenes with Drury. His Rangers source told him its a very complicated situation. The source was evasive. Its a near certainty Drury has played his last game as a Ranger. Then Hradek and Pidto wondered if there was an injury involved but Dreger did not know. Then Dreger speculated,Drury may get bought out in the 2nd buyout period. Its not as cut and dried as the previous reports indicated.
What could be going on behind the scenes? Pizza parties at his restaurant? Seriously though, how could this situation be as complicated as Dreger's comments seem to indicate? Rangers want to part ways with the player, just buy him out and take the cap hits for the next 2 seasons.... I understand the desire to trade him so that there's no cap hits, but that seems extremely difficult to pull off given the circumstances, so I think they should just go with Option 1 and leave it at that. Maybe there is a complicated medical issue at play and the Rangers will try to put him on the LTIR and be off the hook for the cap hit for the final year of his contract? Could that be it?

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Could be an injury that might force him to retire maybe...nah we aren't tha lucky...

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My argument for Anisimov:

Weiss was spoon fed by coaches with ice time and averaged almost 4 more minutes of ice time and only got 5 more points, switch places and he gets more points. Anisimov is just more talented.

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No he isn't.

Weiss is more talented then Anisimov. He's more aggressive/assertive, he's much faster.

Weiss would be our best player.

That doesn't mean I'd trade Anisimov for him. Anisimov has more upside. As he's a few years younger.

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What could be going on behind the scenes? Pizza parties at his restaurant? Seriously though, how could this situation be as complicated as Dreger's comments seem to indicate? Rangers want to part ways with the player, just buy him out and take the cap hits for the next 2 seasons.... I understand the desire to trade him so that there's no cap hits, but that seems extremely difficult to pull off given the circumstances, so I think they should just go with Option 1 and leave it at that. Maybe there is a complicated medical issue at play and the Rangers will try to put him on the LTIR and be off the hook for the cap hit for the final year of his contract? Could that be it?
Or maybe Chris himself doesn't know YET if he's ready to lace em up again?

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With no real new news today on the Chris Drury front -- despite the clear-cut reports from the Post and News, there are still too many complicating factors to say Drury is definitely being bought out once the buyout period begins next week -- we'll lay out one of those complicating scenarios here.

Teams cannot buy out an injured player. Drury, of course, played the final game of the game of the regular season and the five playoff games, but played more than eight minutes only twice, in both OT games against the Caps.

He was essentially playing on one leg, as John Tortorella pointed out in his breakup day comments.

So if Drury isn't medically cleared to do things like skate right now, the Rangers can't buy him out. Period, move on to Plan B.

If the team and player disagree, then there's a grievance process through the players' association. But that won't happen here; Drury is not the sort of player or person to go to the mat with the Rangers.

So there are still things to be ironed out, any number of scenarios to get to the end point. The writing has been on the wall since the season ended for Drury, but it's not certain just yet.
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No he isn't.

Weiss is more talented then Anisimov. He's more aggressive/assertive, he's much faster.

Weiss would be our best player.

That doesn't mean I'd trade Anisimov for him. Anisimov has more upside. As he's a few years younger.
Weiss would not be the Rangers best player. Gaborik at least is better than him and a strong case could be made for Dubinsky and Callahan as better overall players.

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If Weiss is your teams best player than you know you got big problems.

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If Weiss is your teams best player than you know you got big problems.
Yeah, because you're the Florida Panthers.

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No he isn't.

Weiss is more talented then Anisimov. He's more aggressive/assertive, he's much faster.

Weiss would be our best player.

That doesn't mean I'd trade Anisimov for him. Anisimov has more upside. As he's a few years younger.
Gaborik is a better player than Weiss. And while Weiss may be more offensively talented, Ryan Callahan and Brandon Dubinsky are better players overall. Hell, Wojtek Wolski has scored at a better P/PG clip for his career than Weiss.

And that's to say nothing of Staal and Lundqvist.

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Weiss would not be the Rangers best player. Gaborik at least is better than him and a strong case could be made for Dubinsky and Callahan as better overall players.
Gaborik is more skilled.

But i would say Callahan and Dubinsky are better PLAYERS then Gaborik.

Still, If Weiss were there, he would be the better overall player.

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Gaborik is a better player than Weiss. And while Weiss may be more offensively talented, Ryan Callahan and Brandon Dubinsky are better players overall. Hell, Wojtek Wolski has scored at a better P/PG clip for his career than Weiss.

And that's to say nothing of Staal and Lundqvist.
Would you consider Toews a better player then Gaborik?

Toews never put up 80 points or 40 goals.

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An average Weiss year is 20 goals, 30 assists. An average Gaborik year, if healthy, is what 35/35? Even keeping in mind everything Weiss does better than Gaborik away from the puck, I'd still take Marian Gaborik.

With Gaborik's durability concerns, I'd put them as even. If they're both healthy, I think Gaborik is definitely the better player.

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Gaborik is a better player than Weiss. And while Weiss may be more offensively talented, Ryan Callahan and Brandon Dubinsky are better players overall. Hell, Wojtek Wolski has scored at a better P/PG clip for his career than Weiss.

And that's to say nothing of Staal and Lundqvist.
I disagree.

Weiss does a lot on the ice for his team, AND he puts up points, too.

He's certainly not an elite player, but he's a very good one.

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Gaborik is more skilled.

But i would say Callahan and Dubinsky are better PLAYERS then Gaborik.

Still, If Weiss were there, he would be the better overall player.
No, no he wouldn't be. He really would not be.

Dubinsky and Callahan also do a lot for their team (more than Weiss IMO) and at this point are putting up comparable pionts.

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Would you consider Toews a better player then Gaborik?

Toews never put up 80 points or 40 goals.
And Toews is also a better player than Stephen Weiss. What's your point?

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An average Weiss year is 20 goals, 30 assists. An average Gaborik year, if healthy, is what 35/35? Even keeping in mind everything Weiss does better than Gaborik away from the puck, I'd still take Marian Gaborik.

With Gaborik's durability concerns, I'd put them as even. If they're both healthy, I think Gaborik is definitely the better player.
There is more to hockey then points though.

And there is more to being a good hockey player then being able to put up points.

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And Toews is also a better player than Stephen Weiss. What's your point?
See above.

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There is more to hockey then points though.

And there is more to being a good hockey player then being able to put up points.
But putting up points is what's most important.

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There is more to hockey then points though.

And there is more to being a good hockey player then being able to put up points.
Really? I never knew that.



Seriously though, I acknowledged as much in my first response when I said, "even with everything Weiss does better than Gaborik." Again though, I don't think those things outweigh the difference in offensive production. I still think Gaborik is a better player. I think the majority of people would agree.

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