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06-09-2011, 11:32 AM
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So the Rangers, who bid against only themselves to sign Drury to this massive, bloated contract... are going to buy him out... so that they can bid against only themselves to offer a massive, bloated contract to Richards?

How have they not realized that these contracts are a mistake 100% of the time?

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06-09-2011, 11:33 AM
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Actually, TSN's report says that the Rangers are unlikely to retain Wolski's service as well.
Seems like both Drury and Wolski will become UFA on July 1st.
Perhaps they will rejoin the Avs together?

I could see Drury getting and offer, even just as a mentor for some of our younger players. Wolski...will end up in some league where they reward lazy play...probably some sort of beer league.

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So the Rangers, who bid against only themselves to sign Drury to this massive, bloated contract... are going to buy him out... so that they can bid against only themselves to offer a massive, bloated contract to Richards?

How have they not realized that these contracts are a mistake 100% of the time?
These contracts are a mistake when you don't give them to elite players. Fortunately for us, Richards is still an elite player.

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06-09-2011, 11:37 AM
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So the Rangers, who bid against only themselves to sign Drury to this massive, bloated contract... are going to buy him out... so that they can bid against only themselves to offer a massive, bloated contract to Richards?

How have they not realized that these contracts are a mistake 100% of the time?
They won't be bidding against themselves. You can bet your house that Burke and the Leafs will be on Richards as much as New York.

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06-09-2011, 11:40 AM
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Confirmed that Wolski is expected to be bought out too.

If one team makes sense to inquire about Drury if he does become a UFA, it's the Sabres. I'd take him back here I think. We need center depth. Even if we could use him as a faceoff/PK specialist and for his leadership, he'd be worth trying. This team is dying for some strong leadership and we haven't been good with faceoffs over the past few years aside from Gaustad. I don't know if Drury could handle the 3rd line center spot, but if he could stay healthy, we'd be in shape.

Makes some sense for Drury because he's familiar with this organization and he wouldn't have to move states. Plus seeing as the old owners he left under are gone, maybe he'd be willing to come back if he sees that the organization has changed for the better. We got Grier back so we have a chance at getting Drury back I think.
This is pretty much spot on. The only question I have is how much was Darcy involved in letting Drury go. It's generally accepted that Quinn/Golly forced the issue, but Darcy was/is our GM. I wonder if that will have any impact on us offering him a contract or Drury telling Regeir to go eff himself.

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06-09-2011, 11:41 AM
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LOL. This.

The Rangers are going to throw something like a 10-year massive deal at Richards, only to watch him decline in a few years. Or get banged up with injuries.

God the Rangers are horribly managed.
Coming from a Wild fan this is pretty rich, considering the Wild's struggles to develop NHL caliber talent.

The Rangers should lock Sather up on July 1st and steal his cell-phone. That being said - he's been able to avoid having his mistakes (Drury, Gomez, Redden) really hurt the Rangers on ice product, which is what most fans are worried about. Obviously - you'd think the oranization would be pissed paying Redden 26M to play in the AHL, but it hasn't hurt the Rangers on-ice performance.

Add in he's drafted well and the Rangers have a ton of home grown talent developing and contributing, and I think that's it a huge stretch to say the Rangers are poorly managed.

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06-09-2011, 11:45 AM
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I think he'll go with the team that best suits him and the most money offered and both are Toronto. He is exactly what the Leafs need ( a true number 1 center) we've needed one ever since Sundin left. We can also offer the most money to him.
Oh please he doesnt want to go to Toronto. He wants to win they arent going to be in winning in Toronto anytime soon.

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Coming from a Wild fan this is pretty rich, considering the Wild's struggles to develop NHL caliber talent.

The Rangers should lock Sather up on July 1st and steal his cell-phone. That being said - he's been able to avoid having his mistakes (Drury, Gomez, Redden) really hurt the Rangers on ice product, which is what most fans are worried about. Obviously - you'd think the oranization would be pissed paying Redden 26M to play in the AHL, but it hasn't hurt the Rangers on-ice performance.

Add in he's drafted well and the Rangers have a ton of home grown talent developing and contributing, and I think that's it a huge stretch to say the Rangers are poorly managed.
Actually it's the truth. Imagine if they didnt get lucky and strike gold with Lundqvist where the Rangers would be. Sather is a terrible GM, tell me what the Rangers playoff record is since he's been there? Or even how often they make the playoffs? I hope the NHL closes the loopholes when it comes to burying contracts and buying guys out then he'll be ****ed.

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06-09-2011, 11:48 AM
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habs should do the same for Mr Gomez
I hate the idea that we gave up Mcdonagh for 2 mediocre seasons from Blowmez, but at this point I'd be happy with a 50 pt season from him. Eventhough he's playing well below what we should expect , he's still somewhat usefull.

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Even in buy out Drury, they have to buy out Wolski too if they are signing Richards. To make sign there other players to fill the roster, Wolski has to go too.
False. Buying out either player will give us enough to sign Richards. Capgeek is your friend.

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They can clear all the cap space they want but that doesnt mean Richards is going to sign there. Richards has repeatidly said he wants to play on a winning team and have a chance at a cup. Again that isnt the Rangers.
If you were able to magically replace Drury on the Rangers last year with Drury - I think it's very possible that the Rangers are an elite team that could win the Cup.

Combination of Lundquist, very good young blueline, a bunch of young talent coming up throught he organziation, and I think the Rangers would be a pretty attractive team as much as any organization. Obviously - they haven't had a deep play-off run lately - but I think they've got a lot of characteristics that would be attractive to a UFA.

What contending teams have the Cap space to sign Richards long term? I guess you could make a case that the Wings could, but I'd think they'd be more concerned with addressing the blueline with Rafalski's retirement. You obviously might feel otherwise.

I just don't see any of the upper tier teams that have cap space and salary budget available that would be more attractive than the Rangers. Can you state who you think would be better fit?

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Oh please he doesnt want to go to Toronto. He wants to win they arent going to be in winning in Toronto anytime soon.
Sooooo I assume you're on the "he'll sign with Detroit on a 1 year, cap friendly deal" "a discount to win the cup" bandwagon. He isn't signing in Detroit and every player wants to win, so don't give me that garbage. His options are going to be only a few teams cause a lot of teams don't have the cap space to sign him to the type of deal he's asking for. One thing that isn't happening is him going to Detroit.

NY and Toronto and possibly LA are the three front runners for him, when you put everything into consideration. Unless a darkhouse comes out of nowhere he'll sign with one of those teams on July 1st. Toronto offers the best fit and the most money.

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Ya makes sense. I mean why would anyone want to go there when the captain and best player just get bought out.
Drury is our best player? Please pass me whatever you are smoking, because it must be some damn good ****.

Captains have been traded before. They have been stripped of the C. Buying out an older player with a huge cap hit because he's no longer performing isn't a crime, whether he's the captain or not. The only crime would be keeping him around for another year.

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If you were able to magically replace Drury on the Rangers last year with Drury - I think it's very possible that the Rangers are an elite team that could win the Cup.

Combination of Lundquist, very good young blueline, a bunch of young talent coming up throught he organziation, and I think the Rangers would be a pretty attractive team as much as any organization. Obviously - they haven't had a deep play-off run lately - but I think they've got a lot of characteristics that would be attractive to a UFA.

What contending teams have the Cap space to sign Richards long term? I guess you could make a case that the Wings could, but I'd think they'd be more concerned with addressing the blueline with Rafalski's retirement. You obviously might feel otherwise.

I just don't see any of the upper tier teams that have cap space and salary budget available that would be more attractive than the Rangers. Can you state who you think would be better fit?
Detroit actually has the cap space to sign Richards whether they will/should is another story. Yes Richards is a good fit in NYR but that doesnt mean he wants to play there. Also with the cap rising Boston has room for him just barely Washington too but again just barely. LA too.

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Montreal is offering Tinordi or Weber for Drury

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Sooooo I assume you're on the "he'll sign with Detroit on a 1 year, cap friendly deal" "a discount to win the cup" bandwagon. He isn't signing in Detroit and every player wants to win, so don't give me that garbage. His options are going to be only a few teams cause a lot of teams don't have the cap space to sign him to the type of deal he's asking for. One thing that isn't happening is him going to Detroit.

NY and Toronto and possibly LA are the three front runners for him, when you put everything into consideration. Unless a darkhouse comes out of nowhere he'll sign with one of those teams on July 1st. Toronto offers the best fit and the most money.
Whether he signs in Detroit or not is irrelevant he isnt going to Toronto. Bet on it. It's not always about money.

BTW people said the same thing about Hossa before he signed his 1 year deal with Detroit.

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Actually it's the truth. Imagine if they didnt get lucky and strike gold with Lundqvist where the Rangers would be. Sather is a terrible GM, tell me what the Rangers playoff record is since he's been there? Or even how often they make the playoffs? I hope the NHL closes the loopholes when it comes to burying contracts and buying guys out then he'll be ****ed.
Did I say he was a great GM? No I didn't. I did say that he has been able to use the tools that he has available so his mistakes haven't significantly impacted the Ranger's on ice product.

Sather did draft Lundquist. And Dubinsky, Callahan, Staal, Girardi, Anisimov, Sauer. Add in a good prospect pipeline, and making some smart trades and I think that Sather has redeemed himself in NY over the last 5 years.

And I find it ironic that a Wings fan is getting up on a moral high horse when the Wings previously buried a guy like Joseph making $8M in the minors. (Understand it was pre-salary cap - but as much as you're crying about it - the Rangers are following the rules. They don't ice more salary in the NHL more salary than any other team.)

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Whether he signs in Detroit or not is irrelevant he isnt going to Toronto. Bet on it.
LOL okkkk! Nostradamus

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Did I say he was a great GM? No I didn't. I did say that he has been able to use the tools that he has available so his mistakes haven't significantly impacted the Ranger's on ice product.

Sather did draft Lundquist. And Dubinsky, Callahan, Staal, Girardi, Anisimov, Sauer. Add in a good prospect pipeline, and making some smart trades and I think that Sather has redeemed himself in NY over the last 5 years.

And I find it ironic that a Wings fan is getting up on a moral high horse when the Wings previously buried a guy like Joseph making $8M in the minors. (Understand it was pre-salary cap - but as much as you're crying about it - the Rangers are following the rules. They don't ice more salary in the NHL more salary than any other team.)
Just because he can draft well doesnt make him a good GM. Rules change my friend and you can be sure that Bettman will try to close the loopholes.

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LOL okkkk! Nostradamus
You homer Leaf fans always think everyone is going to Toronto. Well guess what some players dont want to miss the playoffs for 6 straight years they would rather have a chance at the cup even if they get paid a little more money.

This is just like at the draft in 2009 when every Leaf fan thought Burke was going to trade up and get Brayden Schenn. The look on Burke's face when LA drafted him was priceless

But then again not every team can overpay for Beauchemin and Komiserk lol

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I have the feeling Richards will force the team that signs him to such a long contract that it will be Druryesque towards the end of its life time.

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This is pretty much spot on. The only question I have is how much was Darcy involved in letting Drury go. It's generally accepted that Quinn/Golly forced the issue, but Darcy was/is our GM. I wonder if that will have any impact on us offering him a contract or Drury telling Regeir to go eff himself.
Thanks!

Rumors have it that Drury basically got fed up with the way they were handling Briere's situation and stopped negotiations. That could be on Regier but we have to remember we had an internal cap and Darcy's hands were tied. Still, I believe poor management was a reason why we lost both. We could have afforded to keep one of them.

Who knows how Drury would feel but it makes some sense for him. This team would benefit from having him back IMO and I'm sure Drury knows that he won't be relied on to carry the offensive load as he's done in the past not just in Buffalo if he comes back but wherever he ends up next year. One thing's for sure, his best years were as a Sabre. He's got to take that into consideration.

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Typical.

Well at least they can now sign Richards to a foolish contract and then repeat the process 3-5 years from now

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If one team makes sense to inquire about Drury if he does become a UFA, it's the Sabres. I'd take him back here I think. We need center depth. Even if we could use him as a faceoff/PK specialist and for his leadership, he'd be worth trying. This team is dying for some strong leadership and we haven't been good with faceoffs over the past few years aside from Gaustad. I don't know if Drury could handle the 3rd line center spot, but if he could stay healthy, we'd be in shape.
Agreed on all counts...

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Makes some sense for Drury because he's familiar with this organization and he wouldn't have to move states. Plus seeing as the old owners he left under are gone, maybe he'd be willing to come back if he sees that the organization has changed for the better. We got Grier back so we have a chance at getting Drury back I think.
If Briere harbors no ill will after getting shafted far worse than Drury, I can't see Drury carrying an axe for the same reason - Golisano and Quinn are gone. Drury has said many times that his family loved the city, fans and he enjoyed playing for Ruff. I think seeing Drury go was one of the few instances when Regier was visibly upset at a press conference over the organization's inability to keep him.

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Oh please he doesnt want to go to Toronto. He wants to win they arent going to be in winning in Toronto anytime soon.
How many contenders have $7M+ cap space for a center?

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You homer Leaf fans always think everyone is going to Toronto. Well guess what some players dont want to miss the playoffs for 6 straight years they would rather have a chance at the cup even if they get paid a little more money.

This is just like at the draft in 2009 when every Leaf fan thought Burke was going to trade up and get Brayden Schenn. The look on Burke's face when LA drafted him was priceless

But then again not every team can overpay for Beauchemin and Komiserk lol

Yeah well like I said...The teams involved for Richards will be few..Most teams don't have the cap space to sign him to the sort of deal that he's looking for. So his options are going to be NYR, Toronto possibly LA. And I gave my opinion that his best fit is in Toronto and they can offer the most money. End of argument.

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