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06-09-2011, 06:07 PM
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He's not selfish? You know him personally?

And considering he was paid cash $8M this past season, yes, taking a $1.5M contract is a massive pay cut.

I don't claim to know anything, I just can't see Drury accepting a $1.5M deal anywhere. Even with the season he just had someone will pay him more than that.
Drury would have made $5M for the 2011-2012 season. He still gets $3.333M over the next two seasons from the buyout. If he gets $1-1.5M from someone he will lose out on about $.5M. Thats not much of a pay cut for someone that put up 37 points in his last two seasons.

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I wouldn't mind if we signed him to a really cheap contract if for no reason other than provide a little more "grown-up-ness" in the locker room.

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Yeah, he was just our first line center while we drove back up the standings and into the playoffs. nbd.
Correlation doesn't equal causation. Hecht wasn't at his best last season, and I don't think anyone can say otherwise.

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I wouldn't mind if we signed him to a really cheap contract if for no reason other than provide a little more "grown-up-ness" in the locker room.
He can mean mug people who step too close to the team logo.

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He can mean mug people who step too close to the team logo.
Heh, the offenders would likely listen to his look, though.

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Drury would have made $5M for the 2011-2012 season. He still gets $3.333M over the next two seasons from the buyout. If he gets $1-1.5M from someone he will lose out on about $.5M. Thats not much of a pay cut for someone that put up 37 points in his last two seasons.
...or made $30M in the first 4 years of his NY contract, which is double the total of what he earned in the first 5 years of his NHL career .

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06-09-2011, 11:23 PM
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I’m not here to re-hash the July 1, 2007, but with the news that the New York Rangers are set to buyout the final year of Chris Drury’s contract I had one thought: when can the Buffalo Sabres start talking to him? This is not a nod to re-capturing the magic of the 2005-06 or 2006-07 seasons, but rather a chance to pick up a good locker room presence at a discounted rate.

How many times have we seen a player fit into a system perfectly, only to leave for a big payday and flame out. It looks like that is exactly what happened to Drury by signing a five-year contract north of $35-million. However, how many times is the same system in place when that player becomes available again?

The Sabres need depth at the center position. While we would all like to see the team acquire a number 1 center, general manager Darcy Regier also has a need for a 3rd line centerman that is not currently on the roster; namely, someone that can push Jochen Hecht back to the wing while also being able to play a role in special teams. In Drury, you get both at a modest price tag. Drury is coming off of his worst season as an NHLer, which is why I think it might not take anything more than a one-year contract to try and lure the forward back to Buffalo.
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Drury brings plenty of “intangibles” to the table that many of the current players on the roster have not shown. The Trumbull, CT-product can still win key faceoffs at key times, and has appeared in many pressure-packed situations. Especially if Mike Grier decides to retire this off-season, the Sabres can use another veteran voice that can have a positive influence in the locker room. Winning in the Stanley Cup Finals and capturing a silver medal in the winter Olympics twice (2002, 2010) will help build that cache.
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It would be foolish for anyone to think that Drury can come back to town and put up a 30-plus goal season the way he did in 2 of his 3 seasons with the club. However, with a role as a penalty kill specialist and center between guys like Hecht and Gerbe, or Pominville and Boyes, there is potential for a very strong 3rd line for Buffalo. When it comes to the post-season we have seen year in and year out how strong your depth up and down the lineup has to be. With a greybeard like Drury anchoring the bottom half of the offensive lineup, I feel like the team would be in good hands.

It would also allow the team to roll out Paul Gaustad on the 4th line with Patrick Kaleta and, maybe, Cody McCormick if he is re-signed this off-season. I am not asking Drury to come in and be a core player at 35 years of age, but I am willing to take the calculated risk that he can be a complementary part to a team that has already started to find its identity.
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Chris Drury will go into the 2011-2012 season as a 35 year old center who played in a whopping 24 games because of injury problems. He's a player that is being paid by the New York Rangers to NOT play hockey. He's been a disappointment for the last four years of his career. Oh yeah, and he misled the Buffalo Sabres and played a large part in facilitating the disaster that was July 1, 2007. Sorry...I'll pass.
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06-09-2011, 11:30 PM
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I want to know what game plan Malacaro has for the team this summer that would drop Pominville to the third line. Bonehead idea.

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06-10-2011, 03:01 AM
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Don't want him.

Nope. Noooooooooooope.

He was overrated even in his glory days.
Now he's just done IMO.

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Agreed. Look at the guys NY has signed in the last couple years...

Wade Redden - Franchise offensive D-man in OTT, cant seem to complete a pass in NY a year later. seemed legit, got a fat paycheque, failed to thrive.

Michal Rozsival - similar to Redden, seemed like a 1st/2nd pairing guy - fell flat on his face.

Chris Drury - Coming off a fantastic tenure in Buffalo - suddenly craps out in New York... Seems odd

Wojtek Wolski - Seems far less effective on Broadway then he ever has anywhere else (COL/PHX), almost looks lost. NYR have discussed buying him out similar to CD.

Marian Gaborik - While still a very good winger in NY, he was a phenominal winger in MIN... not that much time has ticked off his clock in between the two.

Either Madison Square Gardens is the gateway to some portal which tacks 5 years onto every player that walks through the door, or there is something seriously wrong with the team/Slats/Torts...

IMO give Drury another shot, 1yr/$2M - lets see what he still has in the tank!
don't forget Scott Gomez, who they ended up trading away for a couple of scrub players.

Also, I doubt Drury would even consider signing here. He sure talks the talk when the press is paying attention. But i heard at times he badmouthed this town to some NY media outlets on the past.

The bigger thing is it's obvious that the Rangers are clearing space to take a run at getting Richards. Which means Buffalo would have even less of a chance at nabbing him. Not that i think he'd come here in the first place.


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06-10-2011, 10:20 AM
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don't forget Scott Gomez, who they ended up trading away for a couple of scrub players.
Ryan McDonagh tho.

It's really pretty amazing they managed to move Gomez in the first place, let alone get anything remotely tangible for him, let ALONE get a very good young defenseman in the deal.

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06-10-2011, 10:39 AM
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Except he walked away from a handshake deal with the Sabres to sign for more money with the Rangers. Yeah I know its more complicated than that but still the result doesn't fit the image he's given around here.
Incorrectly stated - Drury was offered a contract extension in fall 2006, but the Sabres pulled back, retracted the offer and chose to wait til the end of the season. Along the way, they ignored Briere altogether and made their interest in Drury known until the Sabres decided Briere wasn't going to be in their plans. After seeing the kind of games management was playing with him and Briere (their two captains), and having already seen his friend, Grier, leave because of similar frustrations with ownership/management, Drury cut the cord and signed elsewhere.

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The writing was on the wall more than a month ago that Chris Drury's days with the Rangers were numbered, as John Tortorella dropped a big hint on breakup day that the Blueshirts might be parting ways with their captain.
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It was that cap hit that made Drury a constant target of criticism from fans, but the respect he garnered from his teammates on Broadway was unparalleled.

"He goes above and beyond what a captain means," center Brian Boyle told The News during the playoffs. "He's a leader in all areas. The way he works, he exudes leadership, and the way he is as a guy - all the hardships that he's gone through (this season), it's revealed his character so much. He's always been positive."
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(WECK 1230) — If I’m Chris Drury, there’s nearly no way I’m coming within a “maybe” of coming back to play hockey for Buffalo
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Chris Drury is a proud player who felt spurned by a rescinded verbal agreement and then mislead the Sabres all the way into free agency, where they lost Daniel Briere as well as Drury. He didn’t like the supermarket notoreity of Buffalo and wanted to go somewhere he would be less recognizable. Hockey in New York is different than hockey in Western New York.

So after all that, you think Drury wants to come back to the supermarket and hear “Glad you’re back, Chris. Didn’t go too well in New Y0rk, huh? Regret it?” Knowing the prideful, private nature he carries, would you expect him to come back to Buffalo and compete for the right to play every night?
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06-10-2011, 11:13 AM
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Yeah, he was just our first line center while we drove back up the standings and into the playoffs. nbd.
We made it in spite of Hecht, not because of him.

29p in 67 gp as a #1 center getting top minutes sucks. He makes 3.5 mil and is injured for the most important time the last 2 seasons (playoffs)

I'd trade him for a 7th to dump the contract.

I loved Hecht but he his done.

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Why no????? Hecht is awful.
compared to whom?!?

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That Mendola article is just weird...Drury looked a lock to have his number retired? Really? He's a Buffalo legend after his whopping three seasons as a Sabre? I liked Chris Drury very much as a player when he was in Buffalo but this kind of stuff is exactly what I find irritating.

Chris Drury was a very good player for several years who has always brought exactly the kind of attitude and dedication you would want from a player. That's valuable but as far as I'm concerned he's been overrated since his time in Buffalo. He's a leader, yes, but not one who ever led a team to a Stanley Cup (or even the Stanley Cup finals).

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Incorrectly stated - Drury was offered a contract extension in fall 2006, but the Sabres pulled back, retracted the offer and chose to wait til the end of the season. Along the way, they ignored Briere altogether and made their interest in Drury known until the Sabres decided Briere wasn't going to be in their plans. After seeing the kind of games management was playing with him and Briere (their two captains), and having already seen his friend, Grier, leave because of similar frustrations with ownership/management, Drury cut the cord and signed elsewhere.
That's not correct. The fact is the Sabres had a club policy of no in-season contract extensions and asked Drury to be hush-hush about it and wait and not sign it till the end of season. They did not retract the offer.

I said before it's a complicated situation but the bottom line is he agreed to a deal, agreed to wait to sign the deal, and then didn't sign and left. Regier was literally in tears at the press conference.

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From what I have been told Daniel Briere was sitting with an unnamed Sabre in the lockeroom talking about possible places he may be playing next season. At this time Chris Drury and Drew Stafford walked through that area of the room and overheard the conversation. Apparently there had been some strife over the earlier reports, especially after a Philadelphia press interview with Martin Biron, that Briere has talked openly about leaving previously and that it had a negative effect on the room. When confronted by Drury on the comments Briere, allegedly, made reference to the rumour, which I have previously reported, that Drury had already reached a handshake deal and that he, and the team, were hiding it. Allegedly, Briere also made a reference that Drury was favored in Buffalo because he was an American and that is why he got all of the credit.


According to my source it escalated from there and some blows, though none damaging, were thrown and they had to be separated by teammates. The Sabres immediately followed this brush-up with possibly the worst performance by the team all year in Game 3. Interestingly after Briere tied game 2 with video clearly shows Drury skating right by Briere without even congratulating him. also in a off day press conference Joe Corvo of the Senators made reference of how it was tough for the Sabres to focus on the Sens when they are fighting themselves.
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Regier was rumored to have come to a handshake deal with Drury that was sufficiently less than what the veteran center got in New York. Sources say the GM left the deal on the table, convincing Drury to test the free agent market.
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They did INDEED of a handshake negotiation to keep Chris Drury in Buffalo but because of the way Ownership acted he felt it was in his best interest to wait until the end of the season.
http://hfboards.ca/showthread.php?p=9981671



I can't find ANY reference back then that said the Sabres retracted their offer. All signs point to Drury being the one that walked away. Sorry, but I'm not going to buy any revisionist history now because some people want him back and want to keep talking about how great his character is. He didn't just turn his back on management when he left, he did it to his teammates, guys he went to the EC finals twice with, as well.


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We made it in spite of Hecht, not because of him.

29p in 67 gp as a #1 center getting top minutes sucks. He makes 3.5 mil and is injured for the most important time the last 2 seasons (playoffs)

I'd trade him for a 7th to dump the contract.

I loved Hecht but he his done.
Nice try. He wasn't a #1 center for 67 games. In fact, he wasn't really the #1 center even after Roy's injury. But he did step up after Roy's injury, going 9 G, 11 A, 20 pts, +9 in 33 games played. And 19 of those points were at even strength. As a point of reference, Tim Connolly--a player you'd like back--had only 23 ES points all season.

Hecht absolutely has value to this team. He's a good puck possession winger, and a sound, reliable player that has a spot on this team. That you'd trade him for a 7th is quite embarrassing.

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To be fair, Buffalo Sports Daily is far from a reliable source, but the overall gist of your post is correct.

Drury wanted out. He wanted to go play in NY, and didn't have the balls to just come out and say it.

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Chris Drury was a very good player for several years who has always brought exactly the kind of attitude and dedication you would want from a player. That's valuable but as far as I'm concerned he's been overrated since his time in Buffalo. He's a leader, yes, but not one who ever led a team to a Stanley Cup (or even the Stanley Cup finals).
Obviously, you mean "...in Buffalo".

However, for a city that has never had a championship, fans thus take pride and admire athletes who 1) are hard-workers; 2) able to overcome adversity; 3) respond under pressure; and 4) give back to the community and love the city. Drury, along with many other former and current Sabres and Bills, fit the bill in those regards - hence, the adulation.

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Honestly, I still think Drury has some tread on the tire. But coming from a group of guys that voted someone who never played a game with the team captain (Rivet), this just seems like a squad where someone is hesitant to step up and be a leader. Vanek did it in the second half last year. I want Vanek to be named captain and really take the role.

Drury represents the past. That time is over. Do we need veteran leadership and a good 3rd line center? Yes we do. Would Drury help? I think he would.

Should we bring him in? I don't think so. This team seems is growing, to give them a crutch like Drury with his history here would set them back. The team would instantly assume he would lead them. Ruff might not name him the C but would probably fall back into letting him run the locker room.

We need someone Drury like in that locker room. But given the past and the growth of the team over the last year, I think Drury would ultimately be a step back.

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Obviously, you mean "...in Buffalo".
Drury never "led" the Avs to a Cup either. He was a complementary piece.

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That's not correct. The fact is the Sabres had a club policy of no in-season contract extensions and asked Drury to be hush-hush about it and wait and not sign it till the end of season. They did not retract the offer.

http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum.../t-255513.html
Who is "Petey Arms"? That blog claiming a locker room fight between Briere and Drury sounds like some exaggerated myth, just like the rumors that came out this past season about Connolly's foot injury coming from a fight in the lockerroom rather than the explanation he gave of slipping.

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I can't find ANY reference back then that said the Sabres retracted their offer. All signs point to Drury being the one that walked away. Sorry, but I'm not going to buy any revisionist history now because some people want him back and want to keep talking about how great his character is. He didn't just turn his back on management when he left, he did it to his teammates, guys he went to the EC finals twice with, as well.
The media reports are likely no longer available online but back in 2007 in the aftermath, TBN chronicled the entire events, based on discussions they had with the players and agents. It wasn't just Gleason but Tim Graham, John Vogl and Mike Harrington. Since that time, Hamilton of WGR has alluded to the same thing about Drury entering discussions in the fall only to have the Sabres pull back on the process and leave him hanging. Say what you like about any of those media members but they're the ones closest to the situation who have the most frequent contact.

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Obviously, you mean "...in Buffalo".
Ehh, did Drury really lead Colorado to a Cup, or did having Sakic, Forsberg, Borque, Blake, Roy, Hejduk have something to do with it? He scored some clutch goals. I think the leadership would have been fine without him.

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The conversation about the contract being removed from negotiations came out from the Drury side -- it was a big part of Gleason's exposée editorial on the situation the following fall.

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