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09-16-2011, 05:05 PM
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Canes sign D Ryan Murphy to ELC

http://hurricanes.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=588714

RALEIGH, NC – Jim Rutherford, President and General Manager of the National Hockey League’s Carolina Hurricanes, today announced that the team has agreed to terms with defenseman Ryan Murphy on a three-year, entry-level contract. Beginning with his first full professional season, the contract will pay Murphy $832,500 per season at the NHL level or $70,000 per season at the minor-league level. Murphy receives a $277,500 signing bonus as a part of the contract.

“Ryan is a gifted offensive defenseman,” said Rutherford. “He skates extremely well and is dynamic with the puck. He put up very impressive numbers as a 17 year old in the OHL, and he’s put himself in a position to push for a spot on the NHL level.”

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My head hurts. So many defensemen.

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This makes things VERY interesting imo

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Meh, I doubt this means anything as far as a roster spot this year is concerned... If he lights it up in camp, he'll get his 9 games. Otherwise, he's still in Kitchener all year...

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I would still be very surprised if Murphy is not sent back to juniors during preseason. There are just too many defensemen ahead of/right there him right now. McBain, Faulk and Sanguinetti are all RH offensive d-men. Murphy probably needs at least another year in juniors, just to work on defense and put on more weight. It's still nice to get him signed though.

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Doesn't change anything, he can still go back to Kitchener. And if he does, the contract won't start until next year. Win-win. He still gets a quarter mill to hold him over.

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He probably won't play more than his 9 games. But the fact that we have all of these defensemen ready for NHL work is a very, very good thing. Look at the Canucks during last year's run: defense went from deep to shallow in a matter of weeks.

I guess the issue is that a whole lot of them are right-handed offensive-minded defensemen, but still...

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09-16-2011, 06:49 PM
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Doesn't change anything, he can still go back to Kitchener. And if he does, the contract won't start until next year. Win-win. He still gets a quarter mill to hold him over.
Maybe I misunderstood how contracts work. I thought years tick off regardless the level, but you have to play x amount of NHL games to accrue a season towards free agency?

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Maybe I misunderstood how contracts work. I thought years tick off regardless the level, but you have to play x amount of NHL games to accrue a season towards free agency?
You can play 9 games without the contract coming into effect but once the 10th game is played it takes a year off the contract even if the player is sent back to juniors.

The rule you're thinking of is that after the 41 games (I think that's how many it is) played mark it counts as a year towards free agency.

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09-16-2011, 07:14 PM
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http://www.nhl.com/cba/2005-CBA.pdf - Pages 23-24

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(d) (i) In the event that an 18 year old or 19 year old Player signs an SPC with a Club but does not play at least ten (10) NHL Games in the first season under that SPC, the term of his SPC and his number of years in the Entry Level System shall be extended for a period of one (1) year, except that this automatic extension will not apply to a Player who is 19 according to Section 9.2 by virtue of turning 20 between September 16 and December 31 in the year in which he first signs an SPC. Unless a Player and Club expressly agree to the contrary, in the event a Player's SPC is extended an additional year in accordance with this subsection, all terms of the SPC, with the exception of Signing Bonuses, but including Paragraph 1 Salary, games played bonuses and Exhibit 5 bonuses, shall be extended; provided, however, that the Player's Paragraph 1 Salary shall be extended in all circumstances.

(ii) In the event that a Player signs his first SPC at age 18 and has had his SPC extended pursuant to Subsection (i), and such Player does not play at least ten (10) NHL Games in the second season under that SPC, then the term of his SPC and his number of years in the Entry Level System shall be extended for one (1) additional year. Unless a Player and Club expressly agree to the contrary, in the event a Player's SPC is extended an additional year in accordance with this Subsection, all terms of the SPC, with the exception of Signing Bonuses, but including Paragraph 1 Salary, games played bonuses and Exhibit 5 bonuses, shall be extended; provided, however, that the Player's Paragraph 1 Salary shall be extended in all circumstances.
The start of Murphy's ELC can be delayed up to 2 years, if I understand the above article correctly. I expect him to be up full time next season, but they could send him back to Juniors next October without any FA ramifications.

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09-16-2011, 10:54 PM
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*sigh*

Y'all need to send him back. PLEASE!!!!????

The kid is impressive and a lot of fun to watch, but he's needed desperately in Kitchener this year, and you guys can have him in a couple of years, okay?

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*sigh*

Y'all need to send him back. PLEASE!!!!????

The kid is impressive and a lot of fun to watch, but he's needed desperately in Kitchener this year, and you guys can have him in a couple of years, okay?
I'll be very surprised if Murphy doesn't come back to you this year. With Pitkanen, Kaberle, Gleason and McBain in in the top 4 and Faulk in the wings, it makes no sense to add Murphy to the mix unless he blows the doors off at training camp.

I hope he spends a couple more years getting bigger and stronger before being thrown into NHL situations. It's not a case like Skinner where he was already almost 200 lbs and plays the forward position.

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09-17-2011, 08:50 AM
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Normally I wouldn't think twice about this and assume he is going to junior. My problem is jr loves who he loves and it xan often change the pecking order. We've seen it recently with skinner and to some extent sutter. We wanted them now so they stayed. They seem to like this kid in the way they liked skinner early on. We know he has the skill, just not the strength and there are obvious questions about his own end. If we were Detroit we would t see him till he was 22. Us? I couldn't say with a straight face he has no chance with us. I bet jr likes him more than faulk, he's the shiny new toy.

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Does anyone know if he has gained any muscle this summer? Is the 175 lbs everyone is throwing out there up to date? Ten lbs can make all the difference.

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I'd like to see

12-13 Faulk
13-14 Murphy, Dumo

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Normally I wouldn't think twice about this and assume he is going to junior. My problem is jr loves who he loves and it xan often change the pecking order. We've seen it recently with skinner and to some extent sutter. We wanted them now so they stayed. They seem to like this kid in the way they liked skinner early on. We know he has the skill, just not the strength and there are obvious questions about his own end. If we were Detroit we would t see him till he was 22. Us? I couldn't say with a straight face he has no chance with us. I bet jr likes him more than faulk, he's the shiny new toy.
All true. The one subtle difference I see with Murphy (for this year only) is that JR has been a little less forceful with his comments.

His exact quote was in the N+O.
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Rutherford isn't ruling anything out but said the comparison was not "apples to apples."

"Jeff was a forward and was stronger (physically) at this point is his career," Rutherford said. "Murphy has the skill level and ability to play in the NHL but that's asking a lot of a young defenseman to come into the league and play at his age.

"But with that said, we will keep an open mind. We look forward to seeing him in a structured environment in training camp, with better players. Whether he plays for us this season or goes back to junior for another year, he has a bright future with the Hurricanes."
To me that indicates that he isn't as dead set to have Murphy here as he has been in the past with others...but who knows for sure.

I do agree with you though....if it isn't this year, I bet we see him next year (unlike the Detroit model).

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Does anyone know if he has gained any muscle this summer? Is the 175 lbs everyone is throwing out there up to date? Ten lbs can make all the difference.
There was a story somewhere that said he "added 5-10 lbs of muscle over the summer", but that's all I heard. I'll see if I can dig that up.

I wouldn't expect more than 180 from him though...it can be tough at that age to suddenly pack on pounds when playing a lot of hockey.

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Agreed. But if he is up to 175ish that's a good thing. Another 5-10 lbs each offseason til he's about 190 will go a long way to helping him get ready for the NHL game.

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What are the chances Murphy makes the team as a powerplay specialist and they run 7 defensemen for awhile? Would his ability there be enough to earn a spot over a guy like Tlusty?

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What are the chances Murphy makes the team as a powerplay specialist and they run 7 defensemen for awhile? Would his ability there be enough to earn a spot over a guy like Tlusty?
It could be for 9 games...

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He's not going to be the #7 PP specialist. The organization is not best served having a developing player not play in the situations that need developing the most.

Personally, I'm of the opinion that his 'shortcomings' defensively have been overstated thus far. Particularly in regards to the televised game of the Traverse tourney.

The worry is that the kid will be pushed around. I didn't see that. He certainly didn't spend any time trapped in the zone as he just skated around the opposing players like they were cones.

But the real test will come during the training camp playing against men. But he does everything so abnormally fast, its tough to guess how it will go.

Should be interesting to see how he fares. Our weakest dman in the top 6 (all but Joslin) is passable as a #4 dman I think at the moment though, so it will be a tough group to crack.

Given the wide variety of strategies used to develop this group of prospects, I have a bit of faith in the brass to bring him along well. I really like the concept of "Earn it and its yours." Sends a great message to all the players, and sets a great tone for the organization.

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So any of you have a reason why Murphy is sitting in the pressbox instead of getting game time, whether it be in Carolina or back in Kitchener?

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We don't need promising rookies with Chad LaRose out there.

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So any of you have a reason why Murphy is sitting in the pressbox instead of getting game time, whether it be in Carolina or back in Kitchener?
Logjam of defensemen at the moment. Faulk has been the flavor of the week, and McBain is also sitting in the pressbox. I have a feeling Murphy gets spot starts against cellar-dwelling teams unless someone else gets injured and an opportunity opens up.

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Logjam of defensemen at the moment. Faulk has been the flavor of the week, and McBain is also sitting in the pressbox. I have a feeling Murphy gets spot starts against cellar-dwelling teams unless someone else gets injured and an opportunity opens up.
No, there is simply *no* reason for a guy with junior eligibility to be a healthy scratch. You can bring him back anytime you want. If the Canes aren't going to play Murphy, they simply *have* to send him to Kitchener.

This is stupid. I honestly think JR has lost his mind.

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