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06-13-2011, 01:33 PM
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it'd be great news if muller stayed 1 more year

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06-13-2011, 01:36 PM
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I don't know why people thought Muller would be gone for sure.
I expect him to remain here. I know there's a chance he'd be gone, but I felt he would remain here for another year.

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06-13-2011, 01:39 PM
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Wait, are you guys confusing John MacLean with Paul MacLean. Because Paul MacLean is Detroit's long-time assistant coach and arguably one of the assistants in the NHL most ready for the challenge of coaching his own team. John MacLean is the Devils' coach who got fired after a couple months this past year. Paul MacLean would be a great choice for Head Coach for any team with a vacancy.
I wasn't. I did not know much about Paul, but know that Murray inherited a team that had just been in the cup final and promptly ruined them, setting them back a decade. Needless to say, he has not made very many wise decisions as gm.

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06-13-2011, 01:50 PM
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so Ottawa, Dallas and Minny are out. Is there another team he could go to.

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so Ottawa, Dallas and Minny are out. Is there another team he could go to.
Winnipeg if they decide not to keep Ramsey

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it's odd that he hasn't been the first choice for at least one of these teams.
He ooozes great coach, not in the way Carbo did just cuz he was a good leader.

Anyway the reason we all thought he'd for sure be gone is because it was reported widely in the news and on CBC that he said that 100%. Oh Friedman and your inside scoops.

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06-13-2011, 01:57 PM
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Winnipeg if they decide not to keep Ramsey
didn t habs decline winnipeg to interview muller

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06-13-2011, 01:58 PM
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I'd be happy if he stayed but the media seem to be in consensus that he's gone. Cunnyworth looks like the the most likely replacement. I don't expect much drama around it. This is JM's staff.

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06-13-2011, 02:03 PM
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didn t habs decline winnipeg to interview muller
Could be, I wasn't around much in the last couple of weeks so it could be that I missed that

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didn t habs decline winnipeg to interview muller
no, they declined the Moose the chance to interview him. Winnipeg never inquired. They have their eyes on Noel, and in anticipation of losing Noel, the Moose wanted to look at Muller, but Montreal has no interest in losing Muller to anything short of an NHL promotion.

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06-13-2011, 02:10 PM
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no, they declined the Moose the chance to interview him. Winnipeg never inquired. They have their eyes on Noel, and in anticipation of losing Noel, the Moose wanted to look at Muller, but Montreal has no interest in losing Muller to anything short of an NHL promotion.
So the odds are that Muller isn t going anywhere this year.

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06-13-2011, 02:13 PM
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I wasn't. I did not know much about Paul, but know that Murray inherited a team that had just been in the cup final and promptly ruined them, setting them back a decade. Needless to say, he has not made very many wise decisions as gm.
How has he set them back a decade? Really, their Cup final team was probably the weakest of the last decade and most of their core was already starting to pass their prime. I'm not going to support Murray because I think he made bad decisions, but he also made some nice moves and drafted well. At least Ottawa has a promising core of young D prospects coming soon, along with a few other top prospects (if we assume they will end at the bottom for 1-2 seasons). I think in 2 years minimum, 4 years maximum, Ottawa will be back to being contenders. I don't see how that is a setback when the Pizza line (the line that kept them afloat) just broke up. Heatley went his way, Spezza struggled and Alfie is still Alfie despite his age. I'd be cautiously optimisitic if I was Ottawa. Their team is transitioning well into the rebuilding phase. It's better this than missing the playoffs or getting swept in the 1st round like their previous few years.

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So the odds are that Muller isn t going anywhere this year.
Has NJ filled their vacancy?

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How has he set them back a decade? Really, their Cup final team was probably the weakest of the last decade and most of their core was already starting to pass their prime. I'm not going to support Murray because I think he made bad decisions, but he also made some nice moves and drafted well. At least Ottawa has a promising core of young D prospects coming soon, along with a few other top prospects (if we assume they will end at the bottom for 1-2 seasons). I think in 2 years minimum, 4 years maximum, Ottawa will be back to being contenders. I don't see how that is a setback when the Pizza line (the line that kept them afloat) just broke up. Heatley went his way, Spezza struggled and Alfie is still Alfie despite his age. I'd be cautiously optimisitic if I was Ottawa. Their team is transitioning well into the rebuilding phase. It's better this than missing the playoffs or getting swept in the 1st round like their previous few years.
Murray is already moving on to his 4th coach since becoming gm, and Heatley left in large part because of the big ass joke the organization became under Murray's watch. They may have some nice dmen coming up, but have virtually nothing in the way of forwards.

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Has NJ filled their vacancy?


Murray is already moving on to his 4th coach since becoming gm, and Heatley left in large part because of the big ass joke the organization became under Murray's watch. They may have some nice dmen coming up, but have virtually nothing in the way of forwards.
forgot about them. Is there any other opening? I don t know if it would be wise for him to go there. That has epic fail written all over it. If the team doesn t start off fast, the pressure would be intense.

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Has NJ filled their vacancy?


Murray is already moving on to his 4th coach since becoming gm, and Heatley left in large part because of the big ass joke the organization became under Murray's watch. They may have some nice dmen coming up, but have virtually nothing in the way of forwards.
I agree except they were still competitive and yet Heatley quit on the team. If they had the opportunity to properly package him and get fair value, his return probably would've helped them out for the long run. He singlehandedly screwed them for 2 straight seasons. In terms of forwards, they're missing 2-3 top 6 players. That's a lot, and that's where the challenge will be for Murray. No more Kovalev BS to replace your 30 goal scorers.

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Mike Keane would also be a nice pick and he just retired from hockey.
Great call. Wherever Mike goes the Cup follows.


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There's also the possibility that Muller won't be back because Martin doesn't want him back. Martin's been hearing a lot about how the players love Muller and how Muller's the one who's really coaching the team behind the scenes. He may just be sick of the handsome popular guy he didn't hire.

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There's also the possibility that Muller won't be back because Martin doesn't want him back. Martin's been hearing a lot about how the players love Muller and how Muller's the one who's really coaching the team behind the scenes. He may just be sick of the handsome popular guy he didn't hire.
martin doesnt strike me as that kind of person

theres no way hes not coming back if he doesnt get hired somewhere else.

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I'd be happy if he stayed but the media seem to be in consensus that he's gone. Cunnyworth looks like the the most likely replacement. I don't expect much drama around it. This is JM's staff.
I think Cunnyworth stays where he is and they look outside for an assistant. Cunnyworth is really more of a development guy who fits in better as a minor league head coach. He was a key part of Buffalo's strong pipeline these past years and was brought in to do the same after Boucher left. To replace Muller they would look for someone who can replace his biggest strengths as the player's coach and mid-game tactician.

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I think Cunnyworth stays where he is and they look outside for an assistant. Cunnyworth is really more of a development guy who fits in better as a minor league head coach. He was a key part of Buffalo's strong pipeline these past years and was brought in to do the same after Boucher left. To replace Muller they would look for someone who can replace his biggest strengths as the player's coach and mid-game tactician.

I'm extremely pleased with Cunny's work in Hamilton and hope he stays there. The only reason I speculate he would replace Muller is that he and JM go back to their Ottawa days, and it's been much discussed in the media.

In terms of both Muller and Cunnyworth, hands down the status quo is my preference. They both did outstanding work last season.

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Why is it everyone always has to bring up Roy? He will not be coming here unless he has full control as GM or Head coach. I think as mentioned, Conneyworth would be a likely candidate.

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I'm extremely pleased with Cunny's work in Hamilton and hope he stays there. The only reason I speculate he would replace Muller is that he and JM go back to their Ottawa days, and it's been much discussed in the media.

In terms of both Muller and Cunnyworth, hands down the status quo is my preference. They both did outstanding work last season.
My point being they'd look outside for a Muller replacement rather than removing Cunnyworth from where he's needed right now.

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Why is it everyone always has to bring up Roy?
Maybe because he's a coach that aspires to coach in the NHL and this is a thread about NHL and coaching. Pretty standard imo.

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Maybe he will stay one more year. Sens and Stars found their men already. The doors are closing fast...

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