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06-23-2011, 07:18 PM
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A lot of you aren't going to like this.
ESPN just gave their top 15 and Biyombo wasn't even on it. Please Raps, don't take a defense only player.

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Yeah, he's such a strange prospect.

I mean, he's rated as the 3rd best prospect on draftexpress, but he's not even top 15 for Jay Bilas.

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Yeah, he's such a strange prospect.

I mean, he's rated as the 3rd best prospect on draftexpress, but he's not even top 15 for Jay Bilas.
Chad Ford has him at 12.

Also there's a weird article from yesterday on the Toronto Sun site called "Raptors covet Brandon Knight" which then proceeds to say absolutely nothing about the team wanting Knight above anyone else.

EDIT: Also in spite of the rankings, a lot of mocks have Biyombo going to the Pistons at 8.

And there was Biyombo's rank on Bilas' board, courtesy of the top euro rankings.

18th, urgh....

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not going to go through the over dramatic histrionics of some people, but I'm not happy with this. I like Biyombo's defensive potential, but at #5 I don't like drafting a guy who is a black hole of suck on offence.
It's hit back that's the biggest worry for me.

For a guy lacking in so many BBall fundamentals, if he has some sort of potential nagging injury(aka a bad back), which may affect his athleticism while he develops, what exactly do we have?

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Utah is going for Kanter. Knight is up for grabs.

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Time to take a break from the crazy hockey trades /speculation and watch BC draft Biyombo with the 5th.

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Utah is going for Kanter. Knight is up for grabs.
This, in my opinion, is what makes it so bad (picking Biyombo) if Ford is, in fact, telling the truth.

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I almost want Utah to take Knight just so I dont have to watch us take Biyombo over him.

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I almost want Utah to take Knight just so I dont have to watch us take Biyombo over him.
You know what would be better? Any of the teams above us taking Biyombo.

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This, in my opinion, is what makes it so bad (picking Biyombo) if Ford is, in fact, telling the truth.
I honestly think we'd take Leonard over BB.

But that's moot because we're picking Knight.

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it's possible that the Biyombo talk was predicated on teh long-held belief that Utah would take Knight at 3. At least I hope so.

If Knight goes 3 and Valanciunas goes 4, I'm less miffed about Biyombo at 5, but I'd still probably take Leonard over him.

But if Knight is on the board and the Raptors take Biyombo, there's not much rational beyond "OMG ATHLETE!" which is the same crap that people said for players like Thabeet and all those other superfreak athletes that didn't start playing the sport until their teens. Yes there's a lot of worry around Knight never learning to distribute and that he ends up like Lou Williams (ballhog undersized SG), but given how hard it is to find a good PG, I'm willing to risk a bust on picking a point guard more than I'm willing to risk a bust undersized PF.

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Irving goes 1st

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Irving as expected.

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it's possible that the Biyombo talk was predicated on teh long-held belief that Utah would take Knight at 3. At least I hope so.

If Knight goes 3 and Valanciunas goes 4, I'm less miffed about Biyombo at 5, but I'd still probably take Leonard over him.

But if Knight is on the board and the Raptors take Biyombo, there's not much rational beyond "OMG ATHLETE!" which is the same crap that people said for players like Thabeet and all those other superfreak athletes that didn't start playing the sport until their teens. Yes there's a lot of worry around Knight never learning to distribute and that he ends up like Lou Williams (ballhog undersized SG), but given how hard it is to find a good PG, I'm willing to risk a bust on picking a point guard more than I'm willing to risk a bust undersized PF.
That's assuming Knight is going to be a PG. I don't think he's the kind of player that should have main ball handling responsabilities.

IMO he'll end up as a combo guard, but he will score wherever he plays, that much I'm sure of.

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Is it just me or are draft caps getting fuglier every year.

I still have a Raptors draft cap from the early 00s that I love even though it's all faded and grey now instead of black.

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That's assuming Knight is going to be a PG. I don't think he's the kind of player that should have main ball handling responsabilities.

IMO he'll end up as a combo guard, but he will score wherever he plays, that much I'm sure of.
If he ends up as more of a combo guard or SG, then he becomes a little bit useless for the Raptors because of DeRozan. It's probably not a good idea to move him to SF now.

A lot of things I read about Knight are that his ceiling is Chauncey Billups. That's what I'd hope for.

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Twolves go with Williams

Now for the interesting pick

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Would be nice if we traded up to the 2nd or 3rd pick. This draft will be such a disappointment.

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Williams. Things should begin to get interesting from this point on.

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Now it gets exciting.

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Gotta ask: Is all this crushing negativity a product of being a Leafs fan? It seems like most of the people ready to riot (figuratively of course) are sporting avatars of blue and white.

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Will the Raps land an impact player?

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