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06-14-2011, 12:42 AM
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Jake Gardiner, Will you be ready (tomorrow)?

does anyone know if this leaf future can step in if the leafs season were to start tomorrow? can he be our #5 defender? who is he best paired with and could he puck move for PP2?

what do you know about him? i'm curious.

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No. It's too early to start writing in a rookie with a handful of AHL games under his belt.

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does anyone know if this leaf future can step in if the leafs season were to start tomorrow? can he be our #5 defender? who is he best paired with and could he puck move for PP2?

what do you know about him? i'm curious.

please/thanks
Tomorrow? Tomorrow, the season actually ends!

TBH, I have little clue about our prospects (in terms of development), but consensus is that he will be in Leafs uniform by end of season.

Not sure about him in starting line-up though. May be from December onwards is my best bet.

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I'm hoping he can be a #3 defender down the line but I don't see him ready till a year from now.

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does anyone know if this leaf future can step in if the leafs season were to start tomorrow? can he be our #5 defender? who is he best paired with and could he puck move for PP2?

what do you know about him? i'm curious.

please/thanks
He looked great in the few AHL games he played with the Marlies last season. Poised, strong, smart.

If he keeps that up, I think there's a possibility Burke moves someone off the roster mid-season to make room for him a la Keith Aulie.

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Calder winner and Noris nominee! Anything else is unacceptable!

Seriously though he might be ready and right now he looks like he fits in

Aulie-Phaneuf
Gunnarsson-Schenn
Gardiner-Komisarek

Knowing Burke he signs another defence man and Gardiner plays the season in the AHL. We'll see.. can't wait until the off season truly get's underway!!

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06-14-2011, 06:05 AM
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I saw very little restraint in his rover style of play with the Marlies late in the season. He has a lot to learn about picking his spots and defending in the defensive zone. Still, he has the great raw skills that you could project as a defenseman like Mike Green or Brian Campbell. I bet Blacker is closer to the NHL despite being younger.

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My guess is he does what Keith Aulie did. He will play in the AHL for most of the season, but towards the end of the season he will become a regular.

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Both him and Blacker need to learn the defensive side of the game first.

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Give him another year in the AHL. No need to rush him.

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Give him another year in the AHL. No need to rush him.
Yup. Nevermind how good he is.

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Hes about 20 games in the AHL away from being called up. Hes very close. Id expect to see him by December

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Yup. Nevermind how good he is.
I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or being sarcastic?

In any case, I don't think he's good enough or ready yet. Why rush him and possibly harm his development?

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Put him in the AHL until either injuries, or his own great play make us call him up. If neither of those things happen this year, give him a chance to make the team out of camp next year, and if he doesn't make it, then repeat.

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Calder winner and Noris nominee! Anything else is unacceptable!

Seriously though he might be ready and right now he looks like he fits in

Aulie-Phaneuf
Gunnarsson-Schenn
Gardiner-Komisarek

Knowing Burke he signs another defence man and Gardiner plays the season in the AHL. We'll see.. can't wait until the off season truly get's underway!!
Don't put him with Komi you will ruin his career

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does anyone know if this leaf future can step in if the leafs season were to start tomorrow? can he be our #5 defender? who is he best paired with and could he puck move for PP2?

what do you know about him? i'm curious.

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Barely anyone has seen Gardiner play.

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He needs a full season in the marlies before BB will even think about calling him up imo.

At most he gets a couple nhl games next year just to test the waters.

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No. When we finally start having a nice bunch of prospects in the system there is no need to rush them and bring them up to early. Let him and the others polish their skills in the AHL with some "guest" appearances in the NHL during the season.

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He probably could step up and play but no need to rush it. He'd be best paired with Schenn or Komisarek.

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Barely anyone has seen Gardiner play.
I've seen him play like 2 games on tv and watched highlights from the rest of his games and he is a very good skater with speed and looked very comfortable on the ice even though he only played like what 5 or 6 games for the Marlies I think and will easily be Kaberle's replacement in a year or 2. I honestly don't know how Burke got him and Lupul and a 4th round pick in 2013 just for Beauchemin.

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If he does well in camp, I see no reason why he can't start at #6. To be honest I think it's between him and Lashoff for #6 and Lebda being #7.

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I saw very little restraint in his rover style of play with the Marlies late in the season. He has a lot to learn about picking his spots and defending in the defensive zone. Still, he has the great raw skills that you could project as a defenseman like Mike Green or Brian Campbell.
That's always the question with a puck-moving defenseman or a two-way guy.
With a pure defense-first type, it's easier to give him that #5/6/7 spot on the roster, because you can reasonably send them on the ice for "weak" minutes and expect to be alright. Not only that, but the player will just play his game and continue to develop, even if he's not playing 20 minutes a night.

That's why you see a lot of defensemen who step immediately into the NHL play a pure defensive style.

With a blue liner with an offensive component to his game (like Gardiner), it's not like he's going to hit the ice for his 7-10 minutes and be able to immediately create offense. So he's going to have to also be relied upon to play mistake free hockey (or immediately handed a larger role with the team like Cam Fowler in Anaheim, where in order for him to be effective, he needed to play 20 minutes a night, even if his whole game was well-rounded).

For a player like Gardiner, it's almost a waste to have him in the NHL if the Leafs can only give him third pairing minutes and some powerplay time. Let him develop properly in the minors until he shows that he's ready for a role where he can actually be effective in the big league.

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He didn't prove he was ready yet. If he has an impressive camp and shows he is clearly NHL material in the A, then he will have earned it.

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Blacker, Aulie, Gardiner, Schenn, Phaneuf, Gunnarson.

Solid young core.

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