Might as well trade Sgarbossa now, with teams like Ottawa etc getting stronger, probably wont even be close now. Prepare for next season we have a pretty good base of young players might of as well get younger
Your a Wolves fan and your worried about Ottawa ? The same team you knocked out last spring 4 straight.
I actually like this Wolves team and pick them to surprise a bunch of teams this spring. They are built for slow/ physical/ grind of playoff hockey.
Campagna is skating now and day to day. Would be nice to see him in the 3 games this weekend.
Hopefully, he is healthy and can play a big role as 2nd line centreman. Should be a big boost for him and Sudbury.
With the new players, hopefully Cull can coach with his skill and worry about politics and favourites, and lead Sudbury to a great second half finish and a first round victory.
Sudbury lose close game to the Majors 3-1. They have a relentless forecheck, always enjoy watching players like Sgarbossa, Baptiste, Campagna etc . Unfortunately Campagna did not play due to injury. Sgarbossa scored a bullet in the first period over Maxwell's shoulder. Overall solid game by both teams. Josh McFadden got 5 and a game for checking from behind on Majors rookie Josh Burnside. There may be a possible suspension handed out to McFadden pending league decision.
2nd in league scoring, and Sudbury has 6-7 regs out of lineup.
And to think that this guy was never drafted. wow.....
If they get all regs back by playoffs, they can beat every team except for maybe Niagara in the East.
Every time I watch him play I'm in awe. I really can't believe he wasn't drafted. Sgarbossa and Tanner Pearson have really stepped up their games after their draft years. Sharks got a steal in Sgarbossa if he keeps it up.
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trent cull has done an excellent job coaching this team throughout all the injuries and the best part is that you never hear him cry about losing games
because of them unlike some coaches
Watched all three games over the weekend. Is it me or did I see Trent change everything from the success they had Friday vs Saginaw? He talked about rolling four lines Friday...which I think he did, then only Saturday vs Plymouth he had guys sit on bench for 15-20 real time minutes. He also changed lines again, where he had success on Friday - team success. Then yesterday's disaster saw him change lines to a point where there was zero chemistry. You had one line go minus 4? What is happening? Is there too many favors going on and certain kids have to play with certain kids taking away from team success.
The injured kids came back and they are not playing like a team anymore? There is little time left to right the ship.
Baptiste has played really well as of late and I think its time he plays with Sgarbossa. I like Baptiste's upside over guys like Schoenmakers and Pancel. On another note Sgarbossa was traded to the Avs today.
Coach Cull has been changing lines for the last 2 years. I have seen over 60 games of Sudbury over the last 2 years and that is Cull's biggest problem. He doesnt build any unity between linemates.
The only line he kept together for awhile, is the Sgarbossa, Leivo and Kuchin line, which was excelled during last year's playoffs.
He puts Pancel on the PP, in front of the net, or on the point. He puts Kuchin on the point, and gets beat too many times on the PK.
As one of the last bloggers noted, too many favours for players, or agents or .....
Sgarbossa is a high end player, and can light it up, but his attitude and selfishness get in the way too many times, and Cull bends over backwards for him. I guess it was the promise Sudbury made to Sgarbossa camp to force him to com to Subury. As you recall, he didnt initially report.
They ruined a high end skilled talent like Campagna, and may do the same thing to Baptiste.
Every time I watch him play I'm in awe. I really can't believe he wasn't drafted. Sgarbossa and Tanner Pearson have really stepped up their games after their draft years. Sharks got a steal in Sgarbossa if he keeps it up.
I guess you mean the Avs got a steal in Sgarbossa now,
Coach Cull has been changing lines for the last 2 years. I have seen over 60 games of Sudbury over the last 2 years and that is Cull's biggest problem. He doesnt build any unity between linemates.
The only line he kept together for awhile, is the Sgarbossa, Leivo and Kuchin line, which was excelled during last year's playoffs.
He puts Pancel on the PP, in front of the net, or on the point. He puts Kuchin on the point, and gets beat too many times on the PK.
As one of the last bloggers noted, too many favours for players, or agents or .....
Sgarbossa is a high end player, and can light it up, but his attitude and selfishness get in the way too many times, and Cull bends over backwards for him. I guess it was the promise Sudbury made to Sgarbossa camp to force him to com to Subury. As you recall, he didnt initially report.
They ruined a high end skilled talent like Campagna, and may do the same thing to Baptiste.
There is way too many behind the scenes favors going on. Campagna comes back from over a month out and gets everything. More 5 on 5 then most and on every PK and PP and goes -4 in the game versus Windsor. No defensive zone coverage or work at all. Hovers out by the tops of the circle in own end waiting for a pass but gets scored on...no consequences.
Cull rolls lines Friday and wins then cuts all off but a few Saturday and Sunday and loses.
Cull plays the same guys over and over and again, as has been said many times in this thread, they get outworked in the 3rd period because these SAME guys are too tired.
Baptiste is a great talent but is selfish and gives puck away too many times in own end and neutral zone which leads to a goal or scoring chance against Sudbury. Cull needs to insist upon his own zone in his rookie season and not worry about points as much. Campagna was left to be offensive and look what is happening...don't ruin Baptiste like another blogger said earlier. Baptsite has the potential to be a first round NHL pick in the future.
Hey Hockeyfriend, I understand what your saying, but give some of these kids a break.
Campagna was best player in December and voted by Sudbury for their own awards. He ha been off for 2 months with concussion type symptons and is not in game shape. Give him a week to climatize.
Cull plays Sgarbossa all the time, and doesnt allow a 2nd PP unit to develop.
Sgarbossa, undeniably is a top end talent, but is an individual, and lacks team concepts. For this reason he was traded out of Barrie during their playoff run, to Saginaw. The traded out of Saginaw during their playoff run, to Sudbury. He doesnt get traded, and then signs as a free agent, and before he even plays a game for SJ, he is traded to Colorado, as a piece of the deal.
Cull has the horses this year to make the run, as long as he gets goaltending, no more injuries and lines start to form an identity and relationship together. He keeps changing line combos, and not only because of injuries.
Hey Hockeyfriend, I understand what your saying, but give some of these kids a break.
Campagna was best player in December and voted by Sudbury for their own awards. He ha been off for 2 months with concussion type symptons and is not in game shape. Give him a week to climatize.
Cull plays Sgarbossa all the time, and doesnt allow a 2nd PP unit to develop.
Sgarbossa, undeniably is a top end talent, but is an individual, and lacks team concepts. For this reason he was traded out of Barrie during their playoff run, to Saginaw. The traded out of Saginaw during their playoff run, to Sudbury. He doesnt get traded, and then signs as a free agent, and before he even plays a game for SJ, he is traded to Colorado, as a piece of the deal.
Cull has the horses this year to make the run, as long as he gets goaltending, no more injuries and lines start to form an identity and relationship together. He keeps changing line combos, and not only because of injuries.
Sudbury can beat any team in th east, except for Niagara.
Agree with your assessment. Only thing is that Cull is doing one of two things. He does not respect specific players or is playing the political card. What was evident in last weekends losses was one of these two things happening. What gave him success Friday he went the opposite way Saturday and Sunday.
The only problem is these kids are smart and the question is are they playing for him now. Some kids don't have to work for their spot and it is showing. With the bodies back last weekend, we should have, at minimum, taken 4 out of 6 points. It was OK that we lost against Plymouth but the way we lost against a supposedly lower team in Windsor makes you think.
Could be that Saginaw was a weaker team, and Plymouth and Windsor played alot better. Just like 2 weeks ago when they beat Niagara, and lost to Erie??
Cull has had no choice but to play favourites, or politics. One thing is clear, Sudbury supports northern kids alot more than GTA kids.
Besides the first couple of rounds,the Wolves always use rounds 4 and up to pick nortthern kids. That's being loyal which may be noble, but they are missing out on alot of quality kids in the GTHL, OMHA and even Alliance.
Cull and Sudbury dont develop their players. They think every game is a sudden death game and will always go with the horses at every opportune time. This system doesnt allow the 2nd and 3rd liners to develop on the PP, or PK or 4 on 4, etc...
They give all the quality and learning time to Sgarbossa and Kuchin, and they will not be there next year. So, it will be up to Leivo, Campagna, Baptiste, Harris to carry the team. Good luck. They havent been tested enough.
Could be that Saginaw was a weaker team, and Plymouth and Windsor played alot better. Just like 2 weeks ago when they beat Niagara, and lost to Erie??
Cull has had no choice but to play favourites, or politics. One thing is clear, Sudbury supports northern kids alot more than GTA kids.
Besides the first couple of rounds,the Wolves always use rounds 4 and up to pick nortthern kids. That's being loyal which may be noble, but they are missing out on alot of quality kids in the GTHL, OMHA and even Alliance.
Cull and Sudbury dont develop their players. They think every game is a sudden death game and will always go with the horses at every opportune time. This system doesnt allow the 2nd and 3rd liners to develop on the PP, or PK or 4 on 4, etc...
They give all the quality and learning time to Sgarbossa and Kuchin, and they will not be there next year. So, it will be up to Leivo, Campagna, Baptiste, Harris to carry the team. Good luck. They havent been tested enough.
Agree with you Chewerjones, only issue is that not sure if a few will want to be back next season given what they were sold by the Sudbury camp during media interviews at during the summer last year (on Youtube too)...Cull was very clear he would play these young kids, but reality is they only did when they were completely short and when they came back they were casted back...forgotten. I understand why they said this stuff, it was to make sure future draftees would believe Sudbury was the place to go. They could not afford first rounders not reporting.
I can see a few of the kids you mentioned wanting out and where will this team be next season?
And you are right, Cull will cntinue to play the veterans in every situation, whether they be up by 5 (so Sgarbossa wins the scoring title and will need the support of Kuchin), down by 5...they play so do agree that none are tested at this level.
Kids are ruined in Sudbury, like another post stated. Campagna is ranked 109th of North America skaters which is not great when many 1994 2nd rounders are well ahead of him in the rankings. Good luck next year...but my gut is that Smith will make many trades in summer to get in 93's to add age. Next year you hae Kantor and Shoemakers as OA's on forward with Dodero and Haynes on D as OA's and both current goalies are OA's...what is he going to do??? Will be interesting but can see the make-up of this team being further less than what you mentioned going into next season.
Hey Hockeyfriend, I couldnt have said it any better. I believe Mattson is not an OA.
Other teams like Oshawa, OS, Belleville, Sarnia, all showcase their 94s, except for Sudbury. Last year, they took a kid like Campagna and threw him on the 3rd or 4th line, with minimal to no PP and PK time. Even when Sudbury was up by alot, Sgarbossa's line, or Foligno's line would be out there.
They would play Schutt on the PP in front of the net. Rediculous. Kid is 5'10", and what kind of obstacle could he be in front of the net. Maybe it has to do with his uncle being a mainstay in Sudbury area. They play Kuchin on the point, and he is a defensive liability.
Thats what happens when you have to promise players and their agents the world, to force them to come to Sudbury. The northern kids love to play in Sudbury, but as you know, they dont add up to much.
Sudbury will have a hard time luring high end GTHL boys to their team, after the recent goings on.
I dont think Campagna will be there next year, especially if his draft goes south. He came out of the GTHL as a top end player, with more skill then Gaunce, Laughton, Maidens, Smith, and he has fallen like a stone. Some of it to do with his own play. Baptiste may ask for trade unless he and his agent gets guarantees from the Wolves.
Sudbury believes they can win every year, and they dont capitilize at the trade deadline. They could have traded Foligno, ODell last year for prospects and draft picks to help this year, and next, but no they stayed pat as they felt that they could have won. NOT. This year they can do some damage, but they are still far away, and I believe they could have traded McFadden and Sgarbossa for a small king's ransom. NOT
Heard around the rink tonight that a few of the younger kids are not going to be back next season. Don't want to push names as believe they could be rumors...but heard Campagna (go to a southern team, but only if he goes in top 3 rounds) and a 1995 will be asked to move.
So it's looking more and more that it'll be Brampton/Sudbury in the first round, home ice advantage still to be detremined. Barrie just needs one win to lock up third place, and Sudbury won't drop below 5th as they would have more wins than Mississauga if Mississauga wins out, and Sudbury losses out.
So it all comes down to the games that Brampton and Sudbury have left. Brampton has 3, they play Oshawa today, then Barrie and Ottawa next weekend. Sudbury plays Barrie on Tuesday, then has Ottawa, Belleville and Kingston in a three-in-three on the road next weekend.
I see 2 points for Brampton and 4 for Sudbury, which means 80 points for Brampton and 79 for Sudbury.
Either way I see this series going the distance, I think Sudbury can pull it off, what do you guys think?
