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How To Better the SHARKS!!!!

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06-18-2011, 02:39 AM
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How To Better the SHARKS!!!!

How To Better the SHARKS!!!!

1. Fire DW – Why one may ask… Because he has been there too long and has nothing (The Stanley Cup) to show for his time there. Yes he has advanced but not to the ultimate goal.

2. The Heater Factor – We have a few options here…

a. We can keep him no questions asked… Not a big fan…

b. We could trade him… Not likely but would be great and the best option even if it’s to get his money off the books… So any takers 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round???

c. We could buy him out… I don’t think this is a bad option… if gives us a little more money to do things with…

d. We could try him at the beginning of the season and if it doesn’t work out then we buy him out. Unfortunately you cannot send him down to the minors which would also be a great option.

3. Number one priority sign a top 2 dman… There shouldn’t be any ifs ands or buts… who is the only question we need to ask???

4. What is the second priority that is a great question because we have to options to go with… Seto or another Dman…

5. So let’s go on to the Seto factor… We again have a couple of options…

a. Sign him – If its for more than 3 mil let him go. Not worth it. Don’t let him become another cheechoo.

b. Trade him – I think this could be the best option depending on what kind of stupid things DW does.

c. Let him walk – not the best option but might have to happen to create a contending team.

d. Offer sheet – best option if plan a or b don’t happen.

6. Then we come to the topic of another dman…

a. Do we resign white? I like how he played down the stretch but if we resign seto we might not have enough to sign white after getting that top 2 dman… Although we might if we trade away a few people.

b. Do we stick with what we have? I like this option in going with a line up with two rookies as the 6th and 7th dman. I would also entertain the idea of having Braun and someone like Petrecki as our 5th and 6th assuming we get that top 2 dman. And at the trade deadline add someone with experience…

c. Sign someone else? If so who??? And they cant be for much more than 1.5 if even that high.

7. As a result I have put together a lineup that would be amazing to get and I think could help us win the cup. Now I know it is barely high going over the 62 mil mark but there can be some minor tweaking to get it under.


FORWARDS
Patrick Marleau ($6.900m) / Joe Thornton ($7.000m) / Devin Setoguchi ($2.800m)
Dany Heatley ($7.500m) / Logan Couture ($1.241m) / Ryane Clowe ($3.625m)
Marcel Goc ($0.775m) / Joe Pavelski ($4.000m) / Kyle Wellwood ($0.650m)
Jamie McGinn ($0.775m) / Scott Nichol ($0.600m) / Andrew Desjardins ($0.600m)

DEFENSEMEN
Douglas Murray ($2.500m) / Dan Boyle ($6.666m)
Marc-Edouard Vlasic ($3.100m) / James Wisniewski ($5.000m)
Andy Greene ($3.000m) / Justin Braun ($0.875m)

GOALTENDERS
Antti Niemi ($3.800m) / Alex Stalock ($0.850m)

SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,258,334; BONUSES: $587,500
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): -$2,858,334


Now I may be over valuing a couple of the players I have chosen to sign but at the same time I may under value them. So I have chosen to go with the two defenders and trade a few contracts away to make room for a few new ones.


So as an overall result you can see that I did not change our forwards but defense is the only location we could better ourselves. I think by getting rid of Mitchell and adding someone like goc who can do what Mitchell does for less will help allow us to focus on what we should be focusing on… DEFENSE…

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06-18-2011, 02:52 AM
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Stafford for Pavelski

He could put up 40 with big joe

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Stafford for Pavelski

He could put up 40 with big joe
If San Jose is trading Pavelski a premier defender needs to come back. The only player in Buffalo who fits that criteria is far too good to be available. Pavelski is a very similar level player to Roy (skill sets are different however), but Pavelski has zero injury history.

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You are missing Demers on your roster.

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Im not missing Demers I traded him to make room for a better dman!!! and resign seto. I think he is over rated and is perfect trade bait to get room for someone better.

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Ummm... I think we can all agree Heater is overpaid - but "see if it works out" and "buyout" ?? Seriously??

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Carle for Doherty and a 4th?

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Im not missing Demers I traded him to make room for a better dman!!! and resign seto. I think he is over rated and is perfect trade bait to get room for someone better.
So you traded him for the ufa rights of Wisniewski, or for Greene.

Either way Demers has been improving greatly and has proven he is a top 4 defensemen already. At the age of 22 and with a cap hit of 1.25 for the next two years getting rid of him would be a really dumb idea.

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Im not missing Demers I traded him to make room for a better dman!!! and resign seto. I think he is over rated and is perfect trade bait to get room for someone better.
Nice - Who was it? Because you clearly left him out of your lineup as well. I don't see any new faces there that are that much better then Demers, especially if you're playing Braun for only 400k less.

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Carle for Doherty and a 4th?
Carle is a solid defenseman, but not really what the team needs, and I don't want to give up Doherty for someone who "isn't really what the team needs". I'd give up Doherty+ for Coburn, but not Carle.

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The Sharks need to shore up their defense. Another top 4 dman who plays more of a shut down role and plays a physical game could help the Sharks immensely.

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did you trade Demers to Columbus? Please, please please! Any interest in moving up the draft to the top 8? I'd love Pavelski and Demers on the CBJ as part of our improvement needs..... 8th overall + what? Please, please, please....already said that! Sorry.

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This is terrible in so many ways.

You don't understand how buy outs work or their repercussions. Heater will not be bought out, there is no chance of that. This is the dead cap space the Sharks would incur (for twice as long as Heaters contract):

2011-12: $1,611,111
2012-13: $3,611,111
2013-14: $4,611,111
2014-15: $2,111,111
2015-16: $2,111,111
2016-17: $2,111,111

I am not a huge fan of Heatley, but he is nowhere near buyout territory. He's still putting up significant point totals. DW would be pretty much signing his own pink slip if he supported this idea.

Speaking of which, DW reportedly just re-signed with the org for 5 years. The owners love him because he makes money. He gets the Sharks into the playoffs every year and has had deep runs 2 years in a row. Please tell me who you would rather have (who is available) than DW.

Demers is a hell of a defensemen for his age and price. Trading him is absolutely out of the question. He's already a top 4 d-man, and still improving extremely quickly.

Honestly I don't see your lineup going any further than this years team.

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Find some sucker to take Heatley, get some depth D and you're set.

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I dunno if Heatley would come here, or if Burke would do it. But I'd trade for Heatley if Komisarek was going the other way, with us adding of course, i just don't know what it would take.

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Trade Big Joe. It worked for the Bs

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Burke has no interest in Heatley and you must remember that Heatley has a ntc.

At this point the options on Heatley are limited. He's only 30 years old, so I think you keep him on the roster for one more year in hopes he can be a 40 goal scorer again.

Even if he isn't scoring, he's a known threat on the ice and teams will pay attention to him creating space for other players. 40 goal players are not easily acquired.

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Burke has no interest in Heatley and you must remember that Heatley has a ntc.

At this point the options on Heatley are limited. He's only 30 years old, so I think you keep him on the roster for one more year in hopes he can be a 40 goal scorer again.

Even if he isn't scoring, he's a known threat on the ice and teams will pay attention to him creating space for other players. 40 goal players are not easily acquired.
I wouldn't mind a 30 Goal scorer for only 3 million dollars more then Komi (in a cap hit) to a team that lacks in the scoring department. (I don't think Burke would either)

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If the sabres don't sign tim connolly. sign him.

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Lazers on their frickin heads?

Sorry.... I couldn't resist.

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This is ****in' idiotic... Goc back but on the third line this time? Buying out Heater? Go to Fear the Fin, they have an excellent article about why they should not buy him out. Trade Demers? Why would we trade a young top 4 puck mover on an ELC? Not re-sign Seto? The only we he goes is if traded and that would have to be in a package for a real top pairing D-man. Wiz and Greene are not upgrades to Demers and White.

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I honestly stopped reading at buy out heater. It obvious that the op is using ea sports NHL as a guide instead of cap geek and actual hockey knowledge. As much as people hate on heater, I'll take him and his roughly 70pts a season over alot of dead cap space any day.

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I wouldn't mind a 30 Goal scorer for only 3 million dollars more then Komi (in a cap hit) to a team that lacks in the scoring department. (I don't think Burke would either)
Heatley doesn't fit with the Maple Leafs, and I don't think he can be counted on as a veteran leader. Sure he can score 30-40 goals for us, but is he the type of guy you want around the locker room? The guy complains about not getting 1st line minutes and #1 pp time.

On the other hand, Komisarek is the type of guy you want in the locker room. He is a leader in room. He may be over priced, however in terms of character building I would much rather have Komisarek than Heatley.

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Dan Boyle for Gardiner, MacArthur, 2nd

Mac could play 3rd or 2nd line wing. He's a huge upgrade over wellwood and goc.
Gardiner is a top D prospect.
2nd allows you to pick up a possible good prospect who will be ready in a couple years and will be cheap.

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If you can't trade Heatley....just buy him out
...your not going to win anything with ****ing allstars on your team.

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