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Qualifying Offers (Lundin, Lepisto, Stralman, Carcillo, Tyler Kennedy not qualified)

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06-26-2011, 10:18 AM
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Isles extend qualifying offers to six: Josh Bailey, Blake Comeau, Micheal Haley, Jesse Joensuu, Dylan Reese and Ty Wishart; Not Jack Hillen
Any reason why not? Thought he was good for them?

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06-26-2011, 10:46 AM
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so would the Devils pick Bergfors back up?
We could use a top 6 RW, but Bergfors would not be the answer.
No, highly doubt Lou brings him back.

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06-26-2011, 10:59 AM
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Any reason why not? Thought he was good for them?
He was okay 6/7 dman, but wouldn't sign a two-way deal. Dylan Reese was pretty cmoparable in performance, and gave them more flexibility.

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06-26-2011, 11:32 AM
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We should clear up the confusion here.

Very few RFA's have been 100% not qualified, as in fully expected to become UFA's by there current club.

I suspect these Qualified updates we've been getting are just mentioning the bigger name players.

I think we should have a sticky, or the first post in this thread with 1) Players like Bergfors, etc. Who the team has outright said, there not qualifying. 2) players that have been qualified. 3) Players that we haven't heard of either way like Hillen, etc. 4) Players that have moved on overseas, but have still been qualified therefore the NHL club still holding their rights.

That last one is always the confusing one for me.

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06-26-2011, 11:40 AM
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We should clear up the confusion here.
Very few RFA's have been 100% not qualified, as in fully expected to become UFA's by there current club.
I'm only including the players that are 100% not qualified in the first post. For instance, Pete Chiarelli specifically told the media he wouldn't be qualifying Dalton or Khudobin. Bernier, Bitz and Bergfors were all mentioned specifically as not being qualified.

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I think we should have a sticky, or the first post in this thread with 1) Players like Bergfors, etc. Who the team has outright said, there not qualifying. 2) players that have been qualified.
Both of these are covered in the first post.

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3) Players that we haven't heard of either way like Hillen, etc.
All the players in the second post of the thread are players slated to become RFAs (according to capgeek) that, thus far, we have no news on.

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4) Players that have moved on overseas, but have still been qualified therefore the NHL club still holding their rights.
Right now, no one who has signed a contract overseas has been qualified or not qualified (to my knowledge), but I could throw in a little [Signed in] tag on them.

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06-26-2011, 11:52 AM
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Strange how Grabner or Bernier weren't either. Maybe it's not the players.
Bernier hasn't done anything, anywhere.


Bergfors has now been dumped by 3 teams as well. In one year he went from being traded for Ilya Kovalchuk to Radek Dvorak.

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So ur saying pretty much if a team tenders a player it gives them an extra 4 days to work out a deal.... If I was a nhl player I would of been like tender me or I walk
I don't think NHL players that are eligible for restricted free agency should be making demands. Let me put this into perspective. Last year, 91% of the players that were tendered a qualifying offer signed an NHL contract. However, of those players that didn't receive a qualifying offer, only 19% were later signed to a NHL contract. Some of those "walked" to the AHL.

On July 1, 2010 (last year), 268 players required qualifying offers for Group II (restricted) free agency.

183 players were tendered a qualifying offer.
Of those 183 players, 16 of those players have not signed their qualifying offer with the original team or a team their rights were traded (Mikko Lehtonen's rights were traded from Boston to Minnesota in late February 2011). An NHL team still holds their rights.
Of those 16 players, only Ole-Kristian Tollefsen from the Red Wings has turned 27 years old and will become an Group III (Unrestricted) Free Agent on Friday.

85 players were not tendered a qualifying offer and became Unrestricted Free Agents.
Of those 85 players, 69 have not signed on with an NHL team.

This year, I'm showing 345 players eligible to receive a qualifying offer.


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06-26-2011, 01:26 PM
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weird, hes young and very talented. He would be a perfect pickup for the Penguins, as some have said

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06-26-2011, 05:03 PM
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Voracek source???

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weird, hes young and very talented. He would be a perfect pickup for the Penguins, as some have said
Or Ottawa IMO. Nice opportunity there too.

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06-26-2011, 05:09 PM
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Voracek source???
What? That he's been qualified? If so

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Two restricted free agents already have been given qualifying offers, as required by later this month to secure their rights -- right winger Jake Voracek and defenseman Marc Methot. Both were done early for insurance reasons prior to them competing in the World Championships in May.
from Aaron Portzline's Puck-Rakers blog.

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if bergfors is scoring, he's the most inivisible player in nhl history. he just has no clue what to do without the puck. he has to be on a line where the puck is given to him immediately and he does everything. you can't set him up so he's useless as a winger for a great passer.

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This just goes to show how terrible the Kovalchuk trade was.

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Bergfors is still a 40-50 point scorer in the NHL. I can understand peoples frustration with this guy but his first full season in the NHL with NJ he showed good flashes of being a semi-dominate winger
Hopefully a team pulls a flyer on him and gives him a shot. I can see him going back to Europe which is to bad.

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What? That he's been qualified? If so


from Aaron Portzline's Puck-Rakers blog.
Ok thanks, didn't know he was qualified already.

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What's the major knock(s) against Bergfors?

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06-26-2011, 06:13 PM
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if bergfors is scoring, he's the most inivisible player in nhl history. he just has no clue what to do without the puck. he has to be on a line where the puck is given to him immediately and he does everything. you can't set him up so he's useless as a winger for a great passer.
Oh wow, that's brutal...

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What's the major knock(s) against Bergfors?
He's just really soft and not that great defensively. Don't think he's as bad as everyone's saying though. He's definately got top-six skill - his shooting is his strongest assest.

He got in to Ramsey's doghouse last season (alot of Atlanta fans couldn't understand why to start with) and it seemed to knock his confidence.The effort seemed to be there but he just could not seem to play physical at all.

I guess he didn't do much in Florida. I'd take a flyer on him at under a million, if you could get his head straight and toughen him up he could be a second line winger.

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He has good hands, I just think his main problem is he has poor hockey sense. He looked like he was trying and he was good with the puck, he just seemed to not know what to do with it or where to find the seams without the puck. Not someone I'm interested in being patient with. The Panthers can sign a better player in free agency with the money they have.

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It is possible for players to play in the AHL and have their contracts slide, we just don't see it happen very often with players from major juniors due to the CHL/AHL age restriction. It's happened several times that European players had their contracts slide playing in the AHL at age 18 or 19.
I believe that happened this year with Alexander Avtsin of the Hamilton Bulldogs

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Buffalo has sent QO's to Nathan Gerbe, Jhonas Enroth, MA Gragnani, Mike Weber and Andrej Sekera

http://wgr550.com/HAMITLON--What-a-s...trade/10201373

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whens the deadline tomorrow for all of these?

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Isles extend qualifying offers to six: Josh Bailey, Blake Comeau, Micheal Haley, Jesse Joensuu, Dylan Reese and Ty Wishart; Not Jack Hillen
Wow, kind of surprised about Hillen. He'll be able to get as 1-way deal somewhere.


As for Bergfors, I'd think NJ would be interested to bring him back for cheap considering he played pretty strong there.

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Andrew Ladd's agent confirms that Ladd has recieved his QO.

http://twitter.com/#!/WiebeSunSports...03887644090368

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