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06-19-2011, 09:25 PM
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does Colborne's presence mean Kadri's going to be traded?

A few things make me think of this:

Colborne has the potential to be a Burke-like big Center.
Colborne was acquired because he is close to NHL ready.
Kadri seems to be 2 years behind in development.
Kadri was drafted because he was the best available player at number 7.
If Kadri is best suited for the wing (a 3rd line winger), than couldn't Burke just pick up a better winger via free agency?

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06-19-2011, 09:28 PM
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Kadri has more skill than Colbourne and is a significantly better play maker.
lets not throw away our best prospect, please.

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A few things make me think of this:

Colborne has the potential to be a Burke-like big Center.
Colborne was acquired because he is close to NHL ready.
Kadri seems to be 2 years behind in development.
Kadri was drafted because he was the best available player at number 7.
If Kadri is best suited for the wing (a 3rd line winger), than couldn't Burke just pick up a better winger via free agency?
Wait.. you mean like.. we have two people that could be fighting for one spot? That can't be good..

Sorry, don't mean to be an ass, but I don't think having two capable prospects means one of them should go..

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Kadri >>> Colborne. If they traded kadri and kept colborne I'd be upset. Naz has been better at every level. Don't think that will change in the NHL.

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A few things make me think of this:

Colborne has the potential to be a Burke-like big Center.
Colborne was acquired because he is close to NHL ready.
Kadri seems to be 2 years behind in development.
Kadri was drafted because he was the best available player at number 7.
If Kadri is best suited for the wing (a 3rd line winger), than couldn't Burke just pick up a better winger via free agency?
Literally nothing about this paragraph is correct, except for Kadri being drafted 7th as BPA.

Think I'll sit this topic out and put it on ignore before it gets worse...

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06-19-2011, 09:32 PM
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Wait.. you mean like.. we have two people that could be fighting for one spot? That can't be good..

Sorry, don't mean to be an ass, but I don't think having two capable prospects means one of them should go..
sometimes it does mean that.

Phaneuf's presence meant no more Kaberle.
Aulie's presence meant no more Beauchemin.

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Not a chance.

If Kadri was to be traded it certainly shouldn't have anything to do with Colborne.

I don't get how Kadri is two-years behind in his development. Who's to say how quickly a player should make the NHL? He's only 20 and has 29 NHL games under his belt. Likely to play a full-82 next season barring injury.

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Why throw away 1 of our 2 best prospects because they can battle against each other. They are both great prospects who the Leafs should covet.

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Kadri >>> Colborne. If they traded kadri and kept colborne I'd be upset. Naz has been better at every level. Don't think that will change in the NHL.
that depends on who we get in return.

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Colborne is a year older and yet a year behind Kadri in terms of breaking into the NHL.

They are completely different players and in no way does one exclude the other.

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A few things make me think of this:

Colborne has the potential to be a Burke-like big Center.
Colborne was acquired because he is close to NHL ready.
Kadri seems to be 2 years behind in development.
Kadri was drafted because he was the best available player at number 7.
If Kadri is best suited for the wing (a 3rd line winger), than couldn't Burke just pick up a better winger via free agency?
This I don't get. He's basically an NHL regular right now and he's behind? Colborne is a year older than Kadri and he isn't an NHL regular. Just because Kadri hasn't scored 30 goals, doesn't mean he's behind. I reall would like you to explain this, sorry if I sound like an ass.

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sometimes it does mean that.

Phaneuf's presence meant no more Kaberle.
Aulie's presence meant no more Beauchemin.
Kaberle's moving had nothing to do with Phaneuf.
Beauchemin was moved because Gardiner is a prospect coveted by Burke, that can replave Kaberle, and Lupul plugs a hole in the top 6. That was a no brainer trade.

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yes, we have two good centermen men players in the ranks...so we have to trade one, i mean, two is way too many and we should legally only have one....

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Am I the only one who noticed Kadri showing extreme promise towards the latter part of the season. Scored a few goals and played with some great intensity on the ice. I like this kid a lot and hope he is a Leaf for a long time.

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why would it be bad to have 2 great C prospects? does a team not need 4? i fail to see a problem with this scenario let alone any logic to this thread.

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that depends on who we get in return.
Ofcourse it always depends, but wouldn't want to trade Naz, nor do i think Colborne's presence changes that since Naz is the better player.

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This I don't get. He's basically an NHL regular right now and he's behind? Colborne is a year older than Kadri and he isn't an NHL regular. Just because Kadri hasn't scored 30 goals, doesn't mean he's behind. I reall would like you to explain this, sorry if I sound like an ass.
maybe it's just me, but i keep hearing Burke refer to Colborne as "close to NHL ready", and I never hear him refer to kadri in the same way. A lot of people believe that Kadri still needs seasoning in the AHL. I too believe that. 2 years behind in development is a little strong i guess. I just expect a lot more from him, yet i get a sense that Colborne will get better opportunities this season.

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How is Kadri behind Colborne in his development?
Kadri was drafted a year later and had a better season last year.

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Am I the only one who noticed Kadri showing extreme promise towards the latter part of the season. Scored a few goals and played with some great intensity on the ice. I like this kid a lot and hope he is a Leaf for a long time.
Definitely not. He was hot at the end Put up points playing third minutes with Crabb and Brentm and he looked good with Bozie and Frattin. I think Kadri-Bozak-Armstrong would be a great third line.

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maybe it's just me, but i keep hearing Burke refer to Colborne as "close to NHL ready", and I never hear him refer to kadri in the same way. A lot of people believe that Kadri still needs seasoning in the AHL. I too believe that. 2 years behind in development is a little strong i guess. I just expect a lot more from him, yet i get a sense that Colborne will get better opportunities this season.
The way he played in the latter part of the season and depending on how he shows up in training camp I like his chances of cracking the lineup. If anything Colborne is the one that might need to spend time with the Marlies.

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Am I the only one who noticed Kadri showing extreme promise towards the latter part of the season. Scored a few goals and played with some great intensity on the ice. I like this kid a lot and hope he is a Leaf for a long time.
Yup, he was arguably our best forward after his second call-up.

Let's trade him because Colborne is bigger and we are not allowed to have depth at center!!11!!!!111!!!

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These trade Kadri threads are getting out of hand. I hope and I know Burke is not going the down wrong road of trading our home grown prospects like in years gone past for lateral moves or short term fixes. Ie. Tuuka Rask. We have to be patient with our young players, the Bruins fans were down on Marchand after his 1st year but he has repaid the Bruins for their patience. Unless we hit a homerun of a trade, there is nothing wrong with having both Colborne and Kadri in competition for a spot on the big club.

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maybe it's just me, but i keep hearing Burke refer to Colborne as "close to NHL ready", and I never hear him refer to kadri in the same way. A lot of people believe that Kadri still needs seasoning in the AHL. I too believe that. 2 years behind in development is a little strong i guess. I just expect a lot more from him, yet i get a sense that Colborne will get better opportunities this season.
Its easy to expect a lot from a top prospect, especially seeing what some 18 year olds do today in the NHL. I suggest sit back, relax and have a little patience with Kadri and hopefully we will be rewarded with the promise he can show. He's only. If he were 23 or 24, yea maybe I'd worry, but he's 20.

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no way

it's nice to hav prospects. no way it means kadri will be traded. kadri will play with big club. colborne needs a year in ahl in my opinion. kadri is 20. he is not behind in development. burke wouldn't trade kadri.

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