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07-22-2004, 07:22 AM
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oilers roster for next year

lw
Smyth-Izzy--Moreau-Reasoner
C
York-Stoll-Torris-Horcroft
RW
Dvorak-Hemsky-Laraques--Farm hand
D
Brewer-Cross-Lynch-Ulinov-Bergeon-Semenov-
G
Conklin and Markkanen

Nedved, Staios, Smith are of course not there--This is not how the lines will look, but how I view positions that will be played at..Torris is a LW--but I think he may get moved to center.

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lw
Smyth-Izzy--Moreau-Reasoner
C
York-Stoll-Torris-Horcroft
RW
Dvorak-Hemsky-Laraques--Farm hand
D
Brewer-Cross-Lynch-Ulinov-Bergeon-Semenov-
G
Conklin and Markkanen

Nedved, Staios, Smith are of course not there--This is not how the lines will look, but how I view positions that will be played at..Torris is a LW--but I think he may get moved to center.

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The line can/will change a lot before then, so it seems pointless to speculate. What I find disturbing is your spelling

Torres, Laraque, Ulanov, Bergeron, all spelled wrong; and yet you spell Markkanen right .

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If he's healthy, I cannot imagine Reasoner as a 4th line LW. His injury was devastating to this team (because it was part of the Marchant/Comrie chain reaction) and if he's healthy Reasoner is 3line center with plenty of pk minutes.

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Putting Torres at center and Reasoner on the wing is counterintuitive-they would both be more effective in their accustomed roles. Removing both Smith and Staios is similarly bewildering.

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Are we trying to ice a worst lineup in 2004-2005 than in 2003-2004? I just don't understand why Staios and Smith aren't there. Plus it seems we haven't gotten anything in return from Smith and Staios.

I'm tossing a concrete block in this case.

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Where the hell is Pisani?

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Where the hell is Pisani?
Third string goalie.

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lw
Smyth-Izzy--Moreau-Reasoner
C
York-Stoll-Torris-Horcroft
RW
Dvorak-Hemsky-Laraques--Farm hand
D
Brewer-Cross-Lynch-Ulinov-Bergeon-Semenov-
G
Conklin and Markkanen

Nedved, Staios, Smith are of course not there--This is not how the lines will look, but how I view positions that will be played at..Torris is a LW--but I think he may get moved to center.

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Who are Torris, Horcroft, Laraques, Ulinov, and Bergeon?

Will we acquire them through trades or free agent signings?

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I know this is coming from a Flames fan, but would you seriously replace Smith or Staios with Lynch? I know he's a good prospect on the verge of making the team, but for a squad that's itching to get back in the playoffs, I'm not so sure that's a wise move. I'd say Lynch should be a reserve defenseman at best for next season and only used in case of injury. It's a nice young lineup, but I think the Oil's blueline absolutely needs one of Smith or Staios. Not enough veteran leadership IMO, and Cross or Ulanov doesn't really do it for me.

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I know this is coming from a Flames fan, but would you seriously replace Smith or Staios with Lynch? I know he's a good prospect on the verge of making the team, but for a squad that's itching to get back in the playoffs, I'm not so sure that's a wise move. I'd say Lynch should be a reserve defenseman at best for next season and only used in case of injury. It's a nice young lineup, but I think the Oil's blueline absolutely needs one of Smith or Staios. Not enough veteran leadership IMO, and Cross or Ulanov doesn't really do it for me.
No we wouldn't, they guy who posted that is well known around here for his crazy opinions and ideas.

He has no clue what he is talking about. No way do we move Smith and Staois. And even if we did we would get something in return.

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Where the hell is Pisani?
He obviously retired, along with Smith & Staios.

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Smith & Staois are out here in Halifax, playing for the WHA Fishsticks, along with other former Oilers John Blum, Jaroslav Pouzar and Nick Stadjuhar. In cooperation with the WHA, local modelling agencies are sending promotional materials to MR. and Mrs. Nedved, as the team feels Petr would be an excellent fit for their "marquee player" exemption.

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No we wouldn't, they guy who posted that is well known around here for his crazy opinions and ideas.

He has no clue what he is talking about. No way do we move Smith and Staois. And even if we did we would get something in return.
The oilers may not have any choice in the matter about moving the two

They only have so much money--and I believe that With the Cross money at 2mill--either Smith or Brewer are toast


And oh yeah

I keep forgetting that the OILERS have a billion bucks laying around--like most of the guys on this board think they do

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The oilers may not have any choice in the matter about moving the two

They only have so much money--and I believe that With the Cross money at 2mill--either Smith or Brewer are toast
Cross does not make $2mil...

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The oilers may not have any choice in the matter about moving the two

They only have so much money--and I believe that With the Cross money at 2mill--either Smith or Brewer are toast


And oh yeah

I keep forgetting that the OILERS have a billion bucks laying around--like most of the guys on this board think they do
Where is this Cross makes $2million stuff you're coming up with? Do you have a link?

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Where is this Cross makes $2million stuff you're coming up with? Do you have a link?
he signed a 3 year deal for $3.2mil... which pays him $1.05/1.1/1.05

Unless he is playing for free one year, he doesn't make $2mil.

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Cross does not make $2mil...
according to what the NHLPA had on their site earlier today he does

but that site has been acting up all day--hopefully it was just a glitch

when I qoate what who earns it is from the NHLPA.com--so i am basing any prices on what they had or have on their site--now they are saying mill--I wish they would stick to one prices and they are saying Staios at 2mill???

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I keep forgetting that the OILERS have a billion bucks laying around--like most of the guys on this board think they do
I see you've seen the post where we are all talking about our potential lineup of

Smyth-Allison-Palffy
York-Nedved-Kovalev
etc. etc. etc...

Give me a break. Nobody is talking like the Oilers are rich.

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according to what the NHLPA had on their site earlier today he does

but that site has been acting up all day--hopefully it was just a glitch

when I qoate what who earns it is from the NHLPA.com--so i am basing any prices on what they had or have on their site--now they are saying mill--I wish they would stick to one prices and they are saying Staios at 2mill???
Yeah, Staois signed a long term deal back in November... he makes $2mil this year, and something like $2.5 mil the next couple of seasons.

The NHLPA site has worked fine for me all day long... everything is from a database, and unless they change the database, the data is the same. You probably just looked under the wrong player.

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I see you've seen the post where we are all talking about our potential lineup of

Smyth-Allison-Palffy
York-Nedved-Kovalev
etc. etc. etc...

Give me a break. Nobody is talking like the Oilers are rich.
People are talking about the oilers signing not only their players but other's as well.
With the contract of the d-men they have--Cross at 1.1, Ulinov at .750 and Staios at 2.35mill. Brewer and Smith in my opinion is better then Staios. Well, if you are the Agents for these players--you can use the oilers roster as leverage--- Enless I am way off of things. Can the oilers pay Smith and Brewer the same as Staios--so say 10mill between the 3 players? I put Lynch instead of Smith and people said I had no idea what I was talking about.

I am trying to be practical when I look at what the Oilers can do. Either Brewer or Smith is most likely gone. They most likely sign one, but not both and that means that importance of signing both Bergeron and Semenov. I believe Lynch is signed already.

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People are talking about the oilers signing not only their players but other's as well.
With the contract of the d-men they have--Cross at 1.1, Ulinov at .750 and Staios at 2.35mill. Brewer and Smith in my opinion is better then Staios. Well, if you are the Agents for these players--you can use the oilers roster as leverage--- Enless I am way off of things. Can the oilers pay Smith and Brewer the same as Staios--so say 10mill between the 3 players? I put Lynch instead of Smith and people said I had no idea what I was talking about.

I am trying to be practical when I look at what the Oilers can do. Either Brewer or Smith is most likely gone. They most likely sign one, but not both and that means that importance of signing both Bergeron and Semenov. I believe Lynch is signed already.
Staios makes 2 Mill this up and coming season, and the fact is the Oilers are all ready paying Smith, and Brewer more than Staios.
Talking about signing one Center after all of the current players are signed isn't an uncommon thing, and not even remotely close to your statement before.

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Staios makes 2 Mill this up and coming season, and the fact is the Oilers are all ready paying Smith, and Brewer more than Staios.
Talking about signing one Center after all of the current players are signed isn't an uncommon thing, and not even remotely close to your statement before.
That one center could cost them between 3 to 4 million. |For the oilers--that is a lot opf money

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That one center could cost them between 3 to 4 million. |For the oilers--that is a lot opf money
The Oilers have room for that 3-4 Mill. Remember Salo is gone. What they were paying Comrie is gone.

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Staios makes 2 Mill this up and coming season, and the fact is the Oilers are all ready paying Smith, and Brewer more than Staios.
Talking about signing one Center after all of the current players are signed isn't an uncommon thing, and not even remotely close to your statement before.
Why is Staois making that much money? Is he worth it? I thought he was more of a journeyman 5th 6th defensemen. I guess I am wrong.

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He was, until he came to Edmonton. Last season, he was second among defencemen in ice time/game with 23:02, first with 28 points, second with a +17, and according to an analysis igor did, he played some of the toughest minutes on the team, too. He has become a very good 3/4 guy in the last two years.

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