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07-24-2004, 01:41 PM
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Why is Staois making that much money? Is he worth it? I thought he was more of a journeyman 5th 6th defensemen. I guess I am wrong.

Staois was amazing for the first half of last year and then started to slow down a bit with all the extra minute. For the first half of the season though he was easily our best D-man. Top 4 though, just give him 20 min instead of 23-24 and he'll do great. Same with Cross and Ules, as long as you can keep their minutes down they are quite good.

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Staois was amazing for the first half of last year and then started to slow down a bit with all the extra minute. For the first half of the season though he was easily our best D-man. Top 4 though, just give him 20 min instead of 23-24 and he'll do great. Same with Cross and Ules, as long as you can keep their minutes down they are quite good.
Didnt realize he was playing that well. I knew he wasnt a bad player, but didnt know he was making that much of an impact. Thanks for the info.

Heres a ?: I dont know how much money all these guys are making, but wouldnt it make more sense to let go guys like Ulanov, Staios, Cross, Moreau, bring up players like Woywitka and Lynch, and use some of the money to keep Smith and Nedved? The team seems to have some good prospects on defense and several younger players in the role of Moreau. And as always, if anyone wants him, you can trade Isbister and keep Moreau.

Obvioulsy you cant get rid of all of those d-men. I vaguely remember Moreau's name coming up in trade rumours around the same time as Marchant due to money.

I am actually a Flyers fan from Philly, but I love the Oilers as well. I have enjoyed watching the quicker, younger players over the years and usually go when they are in Philly and try to watch them whenever they are on ESPN or I can catch a game on a friends satellite.

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lets just hope for the sake of the oilers there is not next season. This lineup is really not going to be competitive enough to compete with other teams. When i look at this lineup, I think of a great AHL team.

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lets just hope for the sake of the oilers there is not next season. This lineup is really not going to be competitive enough to compete with other teams. When i look at this lineup, I think of a great AHL team.
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lets just hope for the sake of the oilers there is not next season. This lineup is really not going to be competitive enough to compete with other teams. When i look at this lineup, I think of a great AHL team.
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lets just hope for the sake of the oilers there is not next season. This lineup is really not going to be competitive enough to compete with other teams. When i look at this lineup, I think of a great AHL team.

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Didnt realize he was playing that well. I knew he wasnt a bad player, but didnt know he was making that much of an impact. Thanks for the info.

Heres a ?: I dont know how much money all these guys are making, but wouldnt it make more sense to let go guys like Ulanov, Staios, Cross, Moreau, bring up players like Woywitka and Lynch, and use some of the money to keep Smith and Nedved? The team seems to have some good prospects on defense and several younger players in the role of Moreau. And as always, if anyone wants him, you can trade Isbister and keep Moreau.

Obvioulsy you cant get rid of all of those d-men. I vaguely remember Moreau's name coming up in trade rumours around the same time as Marchant due to money.

I am actually a Flyers fan from Philly, but I love the Oilers as well. I have enjoyed watching the quicker, younger players over the years and usually go when they are in Philly and try to watch them whenever they are on ESPN or I can catch a game on a friends satellite.
only getting rid of Cross would make sense but Cross has been good when called upon, in a limited role, as long as he stays as the 5th/6th defensemen he's fine

Moreau signed for less to stay in Edmonton long term and is a leader and was the oilers' MVP this past season, he is going no where

Staios as said before he is the oilers no. 3 defensemen, behind Smith and Brewer. he is worth the 2 million he is getting, in the 2nd half of last season he was slowing down so MacT needs to cut his minuts a bit more.

Ulanov, getting 750K this coming up season, its a great price for what he does, he helped Semenov and Bergeron in the 2nd half so much

recently Izzy signed a 2 year deal worth 1.45 per year and thats way more affordable then his last contract i also think his contract has a 2-way deal too, Lowe doesn't have to rush to trade him since his value is too low to bring anything helpful.

Woywitka and Lynch, they will get their chance when it comes, another AHL season would only help them to get ready and incase of injury the oilers can always call one of them up, last season Lynch got a couple of games.

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Didnt realize he was playing that well. I knew he wasnt a bad player, but didnt know he was making that much of an impact. Thanks for the info.

Heres a ?: I dont know how much money all these guys are making, but wouldnt it make more sense to let go guys like Ulanov, Staios, Cross, Moreau, bring up players like Woywitka and Lynch, and use some of the money to keep Smith and Nedved? The team seems to have some good prospects on defense and several younger players in the role of Moreau. And as always, if anyone wants him, you can trade Isbister and keep Moreau.

Obvioulsy you cant get rid of all of those d-men. I vaguely remember Moreau's name coming up in trade rumours around the same time as Marchant due to money.

I am actually a Flyers fan from Philly, but I love the Oilers as well. I have enjoyed watching the quicker, younger players over the years and usually go when they are in Philly and try to watch them whenever they are on ESPN or I can catch a game on a friends satellite.
Good question. One we have been batting around here as well.

My POV is that with these salaries:
Staois - 2.0-2.5 for next 4 years (I think)
Cross - 1.1, 1.05 next 2 years
Ulanov - 750K or 850K for next year

Moreau - 1.6 - 1.4 for the next 3 years

There isn't much point in moving them. Staois is our number 3 and that salary seems about right for what he brings to the table (everything he has, every game). Cross is a great 6/7th guy and is kinda pricey in that role, but he is a vet and is good all-around at his role. Ules is a steal at less then a million and was utterly astounding for the 1/2 year he played. No joke. For some reason he seems to be only able to play well with the Oilers. He has somewhere around 18 point in have a year and was awesome blocking shots and with +/-.

And Moreau in my opinion is one of the better 3rd line players in the league. His work ethic is un-paralleled and with the 20 goals he scored this year and how he led our team down the stretch, not many fans want to move him. Esp since his contract drops in salary.

Lynch and Woywitka likey will get a chance with spot duty this year and will look to take players spots after this year. One more year in the minors won't hurt them and will allow them to fine-tune their game for the NHL.

Those are my thoughts anyways

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Heres a ?: I dont know how much money all these guys are making, but wouldnt it make more sense to let go guys like Ulanov, Staios, Cross, Moreau, bring up players like Woywitka and Lynch, and use some of the money to keep Smith and Nedved? The team seems to have some good prospects on defense and several younger players in the role of Moreau. And as always, if anyone wants him, you can trade Isbister and keep Moreau.
Ulanov and Cross are just fillers right now. They are in place as a veteran influence and have performed that role to a T.

And I think those two will be phased out when Lynch and Wyowitka are ready... the question is, is that now?

Lynch couldn't have had a better season last year (as a rookie), and Wyowitka was right up there with Lynch after he went to the Roadrunners. Are they ready for NHL action?

IMO they are... for limited duties (40 or so games) in order to see the light at the end of the tunnel, and maybe win a spot. But until one is ready, it's premature to drop either Ulanov or Cross. If Lynch/Wyo wins a spot on the team, then you get rid of one of them. If the brass wants them to spend a little more time in the AHL (say if there is a shortened NHL season), then you don't get rid of the vets.

And Moreau isn't going anywhere. He was the team MVP last year, and is signed long term for a very reasonable salary.

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Lynch couldn't have had a better season last year (as a rookie), and Wyowitka was right up there with Lynch after he went to the Roadrunners. Are they ready for NHL action?

IMO they are... for limited duties (40 or so games) in order to see the light at the end of the tunnel, and maybe win a spot.
I'm pretty impressed that you think they are both ready dawgbone. Even if just for limited action. Considering the fact that the Oilers think Greene is even further ahead than them I can see our backend starting to look pretty strong in the next 3 years. I still think that Semenov is going to be a serious power back there for many years to come and with Brewer only what? 25? I believe Lowe has the pieces of the d he wants to move forward with.

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I'm pretty impressed that you think they are both ready dawgbone. Even if just for limited action. Considering the fact that the Oilers think Greene is even further ahead than them I can see our backend starting to look pretty strong in the next 3 years. I still think that Semenov is going to be a serious power back there for many years to come and with Brewer only what? 25? I believe Lowe has the pieces of the d he wants to move forward with.

Not even a year ago the Oilers future on D was uncertain. It's amazing how fast that can change.

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Screw Hart. He's just jealous of our team's youth and potential.

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I think he just wanted to sit under a different bridge for a day.

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I'm pretty impressed that you think they are both ready dawgbone. Even if just for limited action. Considering the fact that the Oilers think Greene is even further ahead than them I can see our backend starting to look pretty strong in the next 3 years. I still think that Semenov is going to be a serious power back there for many years to come and with Brewer only what? 25? I believe Lowe has the pieces of the d he wants to move forward with.
Lynch moreso than Wyowitka... I am a sucker for consistancy.

To me, the only thing Lynch has left to prove is that he can build on a season by being more prepared for his next one. If he comes to camp over-weight, or out of shape, or not ready to play, that signals to me that he needs to do some more growing up.

That to me is about the only thing he can accomplish in the AHL is to prove that he wants to be better and that he is willing to work towards it. I mean, his game still needs work (everyone's does), but he is about as NHL ready as I have ever seen from an Oilers prospect in the last 5 years.

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