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06-21-2011, 08:25 PM
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I'd like to see us take either Niklas Jensen or Tyler Biggs at 25 personally. I like Jensens' versatility and skill. I like Biggs because we have very few power forward prospects. It would be nice to take Percy at 30, but I think if J.T. Miller is still available we have to let him go and hope we can get him at 39. If he goes, Sproul should be available at 39. I also really want us to move our third and try and sneak into a late second round spot. Seth Ambroz is someone that I think will turn it around and could be available in the 50-60 range.

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06-21-2011, 08:30 PM
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If Puempel is still available at 25 i say we pick him there, I don't expect him to fall all the way to 30.
I think Burke will have to go by what he feels the other GMs are thinking. There's a relatively small gap between his picks, so he'll have to judge whether those 4 teams will go for Biggs or Puempel first.

With all the high-end forwards on Washington, Tampa, San Jose, and Vancouver, you've got to think they're preference might be finding guys who can play a bottom 6 role if need be or else go for a defenseman (only Vancouver has a really solid defense out of that group).

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06-21-2011, 08:34 PM
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I'd be happy with Grimaldi if we paired him with a safer pick like Jenner. If we went with two risks like Grimaldi and lets say Khokhlachev I would be spectical. We would either hit two homers or strike out twice. That's why I want Jenner and Rattie, the right mix of safe and risky and the right mix of offensive upside with intangibles (this assuming that Puempel and Jensen are long gone).

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06-21-2011, 08:56 PM
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IMO there's no chance Burke takes Grimaldi in the 1st round..Atleast, I would be very surprised if he does..

Burke has never picked a player under 6'0" in the 1st round in his tenure as a GM of the Canucks, the Ducks and the Leafs (Kadri's the smallest 1st round he has ever taken at 6'0", all of his Anaheim and Vancouver 1st round picks were 6'2"+).

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06-21-2011, 09:00 PM
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IMO there's no chance Burke takes Grimaldi in the 1st round..Atleast, I would be very surprised if he does..

Burke has never picked a player under 6'0" in the 1st round in his tenure as a GM of the Canucks, the Ducks and the Leafs (Kadri's the smallest 1st round he has ever taken at 6'0", all of his Anaheim and Vancouver 1st round picks were 6'2"+).
This is very true, but IMO Grimaldi is a high risk high reward player, he could come out of this draft as one of the best. Which is one reason I could see us taking him.

Its going to be an unpredictable draft.

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06-21-2011, 09:07 PM
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I get the BPA approach, but I think I'd prefer taking two forwards in the first round.

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06-21-2011, 09:17 PM
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Im surprised nobody has mentioned Jurco. If hes available at 30 you can't pass that up.

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06-21-2011, 09:19 PM
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Please, please get Craig Button another job as an NHL GM... so the Leafs can make trades with that team. McGuire may be irritating but Button arrived on the short bus.

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IMO there's no chance Burke takes Grimaldi in the 1st round..Atleast, I would be very surprised if he does..

Burke has never picked a player under 6'0" in the 1st round in his tenure as a GM of the Canucks, the Ducks and the Leafs (Kadri's the smallest 1st round he has ever taken at 6'0", all of his Anaheim and Vancouver 1st round picks were 6'2"+).
I'd have to agree with you there. Based on his tendencies, if guys like Jensen, Puempel, and Miller are still on the board, it would be a much safer bet to assume Burke picks them over Grimaldi.

1993: Chris Pronger, 6'6" 200lb
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2005: Bobby Ryan, 6'2" 208lb
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I can guarantee that if Grimaldi is available at 25, Burke will take him. He won't be though.
Guarantee?

I can't see Burke selecting him even if he well to our 2nd round pick.

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If Jensen is still around and the Leafs take Grimaldi I will be pissed.

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06-21-2011, 09:23 PM
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I get the BPA approach, but I think I'd prefer taking two forwards in the first round.
You almost have to go with the best person available approach. You don't know who's going to reach with a pick or if there will be a trade.

I do think that picking based on needs is important too though. But I think you can only do that with teams that have a better structure than what the Leafs have.


Going with Grimaldi might be a good choice, but its a huge risk. I'm thinking about players that are his stature (Derek Roy and Martin St. Louis) and it just seems to be a long road for them and it takes a while for them to develop.
*Take a look at St. Louis' story

As for the Percy pick, I love it. This guy is going to be a good pro as he is a very sound defenceman.



I would hope that the Leafs go forward, forward with both their 1st round picks and take a run at Oullett with their 2nd.

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06-21-2011, 09:28 PM
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I wouldn't be opposed to taking Grimaldi, I think people really under estimate some of the smaller guys. The guy is a top talent and he would likely be the most talented player by the time we pick. Now, is Burke likely to take him? I doubt it. Puempel or Jenner seems much more likely. Picking so late in the first round, I would have an issue using one pick on a risky prospect like Grimaldi and using the other on a prospect considered a safe pick. It's not as if we're rolling the dice on the first overall pick here.

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06-21-2011, 09:38 PM
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love the picks if this happens on draft night ill be pretty happy

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Going with Grimaldi might be a good choice, but its a huge risk. I'm thinking about players that are his stature (Derek Roy and Martin St. Louis) and it just seems to be a long road for them and it takes a while for them to develop.
*Take a look at St. Louis' story
With the impatience some have, people will want him out of town in a year.


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06-21-2011, 09:44 PM
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Grimaldi will not fall that low.

He's the next St. Louis

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06-21-2011, 09:45 PM
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Grimaldi would be a terrific pick.

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I wouldn't mind the Grimaldi pick at all.

I will say though I have a hard time believing Burke will take Grimaldi with guys like Miller and Jenner still on the board.

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And with the impatience some have, people will want him out of town in a year.

Yea exactly.

So the question is, do you want a guy that can come in within the next 2 years. Or could the Leafs wait 4 years for him to play in a CHL program and a couple at the AHL level.

Personally, it wouldn't matter to me but does the 4 year plan will be beneficial for the success of Colborne. So sign me up!

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Grimaldi will not fall that low.

He's the next St. Louis
He actually reminds me of Gionta. The way some scouts talk about him, I'm not even sure we will get a chance to pick him without moving up, if he ever happened to dawn the Leafs Jersey, I would have deemed this to be a very successful draft regardless of whatever we do later on.

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Heres a Little Grimaldi for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Eazw...eature=related

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I like Grimaldi quite a bit but I like Siemens more. A bit like Schenn his draft year but almost a full year younger. Siemens/Musil, Siemens/Khoklachev, or Siemens/Catenacci would work very well for me with Jaskin/Sproul as the 2nd rounder. I really hope Burke trades up though as I do not expect either Siemens or Grimaldi to be there at 25.

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Jensen is there and we skip him. F u TSN.

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I'd like to see us take either Niklas Jensen or Tyler Biggs at 25 personally. I like Jensens' versatility and skill. I like Biggs because we have very few power forward prospects. It would be nice to take Percy at 30, but I think if J.T. Miller is still available we have to let him go and hope we can get him at 39. If he goes, Sproul should be available at 39. I also really want us to move our third and try and sneak into a late second round spot. Seth Ambroz is someone that I think will turn it around and could be available in the 50-60 range.
Ambroz is everything Burke wants in a player except for the character aspect. He's big, he hits, fights and scores. There is just a lot of negatives surrounding him about his attitude and work ethic.

I saw an interview with him on leafs tv, he seems like kind of a strange dude. I hear his combine interviews with all the teams were terrible too. Doubt Burke takes a chance on a guy like this.

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sooooooooooooo many options

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