they have 13 million in cap space. what exactly are you talking about
The Flyers have absolutely, positively no chance at making a major UFA signing with their current roster as it is. They would need to gut it even further to try and fit Richards in.
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The Flyers have absolutely, positively no chance at making a major UFA signing with their current roster as it is. They would need to gut it even further to try and fit Richards in.
In fact, even if a Hartnell, Versteeg or Carle is moved, it's because the Flyers will need the additional just to re-sign Leino, Simmonds and Voracek...the current $7.5 million in space won't even cover those three players.
In fact, even if a Hartnell, Versteeg or Carle is moved, it's because the Flyers will need the additional just to re-sign Leino, Simmonds and Voracek...the current $7.5 million in space won't even cover those three players.
And even after re-signing those 3, they will only have 18 skaters, I believe.
As always, the Flyers remain the most dysfunctional team in the NHL.
So during Glen Sather's tenure in New York, the most dysfunctional team in the NHL has won NINE playoff series to the Rangers two, and finished ahead of us most of the time.
So during Glen Sather's tenure in New York, the most dysfunctional team in the NHL has won NINE playoff series to the Rangers two, and finished ahead of us most of the time.
That is correct.
Remember though, dysfunctional is not the same as terrible
So during Glen Sather's tenure in New York, the most dysfunctional team in the NHL has won NINE playoff series to the Rangers two, and finished ahead of us most of the time.
not sure about that. pronger is breaking down now, and briere isnt getting younger.
There will be questions/concerns on their blueline moving forward. Not only is Pronger starting to show the signs of his age, but both Carle and Coburn are set to become UFA's next summer, and with Timmonen having another 2 years on his contract $6.3 mil cap hit, and Meszaros another 3 years at $4.0 mil, they are going to wind up parting ways with one of those 2 (Carle/Coburn), and being a bit cap heavy on the backend signing the other. That Meszaros signing will come back to bite them IMHO.
Holmgren's timing is highly questionable. He assembles a roster with amazing depth, and bolsters up his blueline because the Flyers are weak in net. Now he spends big to address their goaltending situation, but guts his Top 6 Forwards in the process and exchanges them for younger more inexperienced players (that have good potential). Now with Bryzgalov in the mix, Philly is top-heavy on the back-end and won't have enough depth & experience up front. It's ill-timed.
Holmgren's timing is highly questionable. He assembles a roster with amazing depth, and bolsters up his blueline because the Flyers are weak in net. Now he spends big to address their goaltending situation, but guts his Top 6 Forwards in the process and exchanges them for younger more inexperienced players (that have good potential). Now with Bryzgalov in the mix, Philly is top-heavy on the back-end and won't have enough depth & experience up front. It's ill-timed.
I just don't get it. It seems like they're running around like chickens with their heads cut off...first they get great forwards, then D, now a goalie...it's like they can't make up their minds about what team they want to be. And I'd think that any professional GM would have a plan and would stick to it. But instead this is like the 3rd plan in 3 years...
I'm not even convinced it'll be 3 steps forward in 2 years...it may just be 2 steps back, none forward.
I just don't get it. It seems like they're running around like chickens with their heads cut off...first they get great forwards, then D, now a goalie...it's like they can't make up their minds about what team they want to be. And I'd think that any professional GM would have a plan and would stick to it. But instead this is like the 3rd plan in 3 years...
I'm not even convinced it'll be 3 steps forward in 2 years...it may just be 2 steps back, none forward.
Their shifting strategies are questionable no doubt. No denying that they will definitely field some impressive young players in their Top 6 in the coming years, but I question whether their defense will be that strong by the time their forward core is where it needs to be in order to do some damage in the playoffs....
Over/Under 1 year before philly gets fed up with Jakub Voracek?
Personally, I can't see this guy succeeding on that kind of team with the style of play they demand. Weren't they scratching Nik Zherdev by the end of the year?
Their shifting strategies are questionable no doubt. No denying that they will definitely field some impressive young players in their Top 6 in the coming years, but I question whether their defense will be that strong by the time their forward core is where it needs to be in order to do some damage in the playoffs....
I'm not even sure Courturier, Voracek and Schenn work out - most prospects don't become stars. JVR looks like a good one but the production isn't there yet. It's pretty much Girioux, and that's it right now...and the future who knows...they'll still have to deal with keeping all that together later on...not lik they'll be cheap forever.
And then the D as you mentioned is going to be an issue.
I'd have kept they team together, and would have tried for another cup run. In 2 years they were going to need some new D, but otherwise M. Richards was 26, Carter is young(and his cap hit wasn't bad for a 35-40+ goal guy), and with the rest of that offense they would have been fine. They'd have lost Leino but no biggie they had 3+ great lines still. I don't see why they'd rebuilt their forward lines...if anything, wouldn't they have rebuilt their D?
So during Glen Sather's tenure in New York, the most dysfunctional team in the NHL has won NINE playoff series to the Rangers two, and finished ahead of us most of the time.
Dysfunctional not in the sense of on-ice performance: can't argue that the Flyers have been more successful there. Dysfunctional in the sense that there always seems to be something going on behind the scenes that negatively impacts the team. Stability doesn't seem to be part of the Flyers' DNA. There's always something going on. Here is a perfect case to illustrate that: after years (decades?) of trying to get away on the cheap with goalies, they finally sign a pretty good one (for nine years!) but have to get rid of perhaps their two best forwards to do so. Never seems to be long-term planning with the Flyers.
All teams are like this to some extent, including the Rangers (to paraphrase: "all teams are dysfunctional in their own way"). But the Flyers, at least going back to the last years of Lindros, make the Rangers look stable..
Also consider, the optics among potential UFA's and current roster players when it's time to negotiate, is not the best anymore. Carter and Richards are both PO'd. They signed basically life time deals for less than the going rate in exchange for stability. Now they are locked in after being shipped out and neither was told the truth. Sure it's a business but also a strong message to others who will be less likely to buy into the "family" mantra. Organization has some healing to do.
All this gloating while Philly remains in better shape than the Rangers. Their forwards are still more talented, and now they have a goalie, and at least for a short while, their defense is just fine.
I don't care how talented Richards is. If the reports about his personality and the off-ice garbage is true, the Flyers are way better off without him. Turning him and Carter into assets, even if not as good as Richards and Carter was the smart way to go.
All this gloating while Philly remains in better shape than the Rangers. Their forwards are still more talented, and now they have a goalie, and at least for a short while, their defense is just fine.
I don't care how talented Richards is. If the reports about his personality and the off-ice garbage is true, the Flyers are way better off without him. Turning him and Carter into assets, even if not as good as Richards and Carter was the smart way to go.
Why not just trade Richards then? It's one thing if it's a chemistry issue - fine, then the LA deal makes sense. And at least they got back Simmonds who can step into one of their forward lines.
Why deal Carter too? His cap hit was going to be 6.3 right?
Also consider, the optics among potential UFA's and current roster players when it's time to negotiate, is not the best anymore. Carter and Richards are both PO'd. They signed basically life time deals for less than the going rate in exchange for stability. Now they are locked in after being shipped out and neither was told the truth. Sure it's a business but also a strong message to others who will be less likely to buy into the "family" mantra. Organization has some healing to do.
How do you think Setoguchi feels? He signs a 3 year 9 million dollar contract with the Sharks then gets traded the next day.
