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07-23-2004, 08:25 AM
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Roadrunners moving to Edmonton

According to the Journal this announcement is expected today at a News conference.

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Brownlee also had this and said the News conference could happen today or as late as Monday.


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According to the Journal this announcement is expected today at a News conference.
Thanks Spazz. Terrific news!

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I wonder if they are going to refund my tickets and my club seat purchase?

The seasons tickets I know for sure, but the club seats are a different beast.... I am not a happy camper...

It will be interesting to see how many lawsuits occur because of their slogan "There will be pro hockey played in Toronto in 2004-2005"... you know some jackass is going to look for a quick buck by hitting them up for a false advertising lawsuit if the NHL is locked out all season.

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I wonder if they are going to refund my tickets and my club seat purchase?

The seasons tickets I know for sure, but the club seats are a different beast.... I am not a happy camper...
Ya, I forgot about you when I threw up the cheering icon. Sorry, I know it's not good news for you and other TO Roadrunner fans. Having said that ... nothing is confirmed yet either.

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It will be interesting to see how many lawsuits occur because of their slogan "There will be pro hockey played in Toronto in 2004-2005"... you know some jackass is going to look for a quick buck by hitting them up for a false advertising lawsuit if the NHL is locked out all season.
What if the Baby Leafs move back to TO for the season? That would cover it, no? Might explain the wording as well.

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I was planning on taking in a few games in TO this year. I had to go down on business and I was going to try and do it a weekend where they played a twice.

Unfortunately, I have to business to tend to in Edmonton. :mad:

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Here's the story from the Sun.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam040723/nhl_edm3-sun.html

I have to tell you - I feel a little bittersweet about this. For one, I am in Vancouver and there's no way I can take up a game except for the one time of year I come to town.

Secondly, I have a feeling that this is going to cost the Oilers more money to have a team in Edmonton. The result could mean they'll have to tighten the belt a bit this year and that can only mean bad things for potential signings we have to do.

However, I really hope that the City of Edmonton - and not just rabid fans like ourselves - realize how amazing it is to have an AHL team of their own NHL team's prospects available to them and actually invest in watching. I envy all of you who will have that opportunity.

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and isn't it interesting that Toronto are negotiating with Ricoh, remember the conspiracy theory thread.

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In the Toronto-area, it's a great Maple Leaf town, not a hockey town. Thats not a knock against them but unless the team wears the blue-and-white they couldn't care less. The biggest draws were when St. John's came to town and they averaged what? 4500? I'm excited at the chance to see Roadrunners games here!

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How does this affect the aim of getting a WHL-Team to Edmonton ?
Rumours are still floating around, but it looks more unlikely to happen.

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and isn't it interesting that Toronto are negotiating with Ricoh, remember the conspiracy theory thread.
I have no doubt in my mind there were some "outside" forces that influenced things. Toronto is the center of the hockey universe (at least thats how they liken themselves). The small market Edmonton franchise moves their farm team to their neighborhood. The Toronto brass was noticeably pissed last year. And now this..

Oh well, it was weird enough cheering for a team from Toronto.

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There was an idea put forth here last week to move the AHL team to Sask. Now that the Roadrunners are moving here - maybe all the pieces are starting to fall into place.

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If the Ricoh group is being a bunch of hard-***** about it, I'd love to see the Oilers really stick it to them by combining on a deal with Brampton-Mississauga or even London.

That way, the Oilers still keep the rights to Ontario, but Ricoh gets shafted by not having the Calendar filled.

What a mess....

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I'm interested to see how this all plays out. Having to fly your farm club east all the time can't be good for the club's bottom line, and I'm not sure if Edmonton's market can sustain an NHL and an AHL club. Hey-if the NHL leaves Edmonton, post-CBA, maybe this is another option.

One thing is for sure: how about a better team name? The Roadrunners are cool for desert types, but I wanna see a team named after something local: the Flatlanders, the Frozen Engine Blocks, the Mall-sters, etc. Maybe we should have a contest?

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the Flatlanders, the Frozen Engine Blocks, the Mall-sters, etc.
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Maybe we should have a contest?
Great idea !

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One thing is for sure: how about a better team name? The Roadrunners are cool for desert types, but I wanna see a team named after something local: the Flatlanders, the Frozen Engine Blocks, the Mall-sters, etc. Maybe we should have a contest?
Lets see... we've already had "The Ice" & "Sled Dogs"....

How about The Edmonton Winterkill?

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The Edmonton Cement Pancakes

The Edmonton Mosquitos

The Edmonton Tornados

or go with the classics:

Edmonton Oil Kings

Edmonton Flyers

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How does this affect the aim of getting a WHL-Team to Edmonton ?
Rumours are still floating around, but it looks more unlikely to happen.
I would assume that they would put the brakes on going after a WHL team until next season.

I think the need for an WHL team so quickly is tied directly to the potential lockout in order to try and keep hockey front and center in the city and possibly softening any longterm backlash from the fans in the event there isn't hockey next year.

Obviously an AHL team would not only accomplish that but would likely do it better than a WHL team. Especially considering that the players we would be watching are basically part of the team we are missing.

From the rumours I heard, the Roadrunners coming to Edmonton would be for this season only.

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Having to fly your farm club east all the time can't be good for the club's bottom line, and I'm not sure if Edmonton's market can sustain an NHL and an AHL club.
I would think that if the Oilers are serious about bringing the Roadrunners here, then it has got to mean that they are convinced that there will be no hockey next year.

That said, in the AHL where 4500 seats makes you money, there could be some logic that hockey starved fans will support the only game in town and could easily draw more than enough to make up the travel costs.

I do agree wholeheartedly that Edmonton wouldn't support both AHL and NHL at the same time. The Oilers are taking a real gamble if they go through with this and the lockout never comes or is over very quickly.

Man I hate the Leafs....I would love to see the Oilers find a way to screw them yet.

I love Dawgbones Mississauga idea. It would stick it to the Leafs and Ricoh. Two birds with one stone.

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Since it is a minor league team lets get back to our roots;

"The Edmonton Rexall Centre Travelling Selects"

Ahhh the good 'ol minor hockey days when our jerseys looked like little billboards.

And then instead of names on the back they could put "Joes Trucking", "Back Alley Pharmecuticles", "Roger's Crematorium and BBQ Outlet" ... you know all the sub sponsors. Heck the extra sponsor money may pay for the additional travel costs.

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I would assume that they would put the brakes on going after a WHL team until next season.

I think the need for an WHL team so quickly is tied directly to the potential lockout in order to try and keep hockey front and center in the city and possibly softening any longterm backlash from the fans in the event there isn't hockey next year.

Obviously an AHL team would not only accomplish that but would likely do it better than a WHL team. Especially considering that the players we would be watching are basically part of the team we are missing.

From the rumours I heard, the Roadrunners coming to Edmonton would be for this season only.
Thanks for the information !

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and isn't it interesting that Toronto are negotiating with Ricoh, remember the conspiracy theory thread.
Well, if the Oilers are indeed going to move back to Edmonton for the year ... then I'm sure that they will be able to cover their own extra travel costs. I'm equally certain that the other teams in the league would demand compensation for THEIR additional travel costs.

The obvious way to balance this is to bring the Baby Leafs back to Toronto for this year also. Thus offsetting the additional travel requirements to EDM by removing the additional travel requirements to St. John's.

IF the Oilers really want to move the AHL affiliate out west (and I'd think they would) then this is the perfect opportunity. Though obviously you can't come out and say so.

Hopefully they can get permission from the other AHL owners (and if the St. John's franchise moves to TO I can't see why they wouldn't). And hopefully they can leverage their TO AHL area rights into some compensation from the Leafs.

Then next year move the Roadrunners to Saskatoon and bring the Blades to E-Town.

Hopefully all the cards fall into place for this to happen. Looks like we'll find out soon enough.

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I am thinking they have already done so.

-My guess.

The Leafs are paying the Oilers extra travel expenses and any additional travel costs that the Oilers had to pay the other teams travelling to Edmonton. Though those additional costs may be offset by the Leafs moving their franchise. I could see the AHL approving that (good point Igor)

Obviously the Oilers will probably get some other cash as well to facilitate having to move their franchise somewhere after this season.

Perhaps the Oilers negotiated with the AHL for permission to move their team to Saskatoon for letting the Leafs move to Toronto.

These make sense IMO but of course are just speculation on my part.

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And hopefully they can leverage their TO AHL area rights into some compensation from the Leafs.
I heard an interview with one of the Oiler brass (don't recall who) and got the impression that the Toronto Area rights were owned by the Oilers and that before anyone else moved in (the Leafs or some other team) it would only be after those rights were purchased.

No figure was mentioned but it definately sounded like it would be a cash transaction.

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I heard an interview with one of the Oiler brass (don't recall who) and got the impression that the Toronto Area rights were owned by the Oilers and that before anyone else moved in (the Leafs or some other team) it would only be after those rights were purchased.

No figure was mentioned but it definately sounded like it would be a cash transaction.
Good stuff, C&B. Thanks. That inspires some confidence.

With Abraham defaulting on his lease ... everything seems to be in place for the roadrunners to come to E-Town for a year. Or at least the Oilers are in a very good position to negotiate this if they want to.

Personally, I hope it happens. I'd love to have Oiler AHL games to watch while the NHL is on hiatus this fall/winter.

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How about the "Edmonton H.C." or the "Edmonton Aviators"?

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I'm fine with Edmonton Roadrunners.

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